The Josh "Nonstop" Okogie Thread: Obi-Wan Okogie Awakens

Post #61 » by **Klomp** » Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:55 am

KGdaBom wrote:I'm trying to find the official pronunciation of Okogie. I thought the g was pronounced as a g. The Detroit announcers are pronouncing it as J. Any help?

I believe it's a hard G.

KGdaBom · Post #62 » by **KGdaBom** » Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:19 am

Klomp wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:I'm trying to find the official pronunciation of Okogie. I thought the g was pronounced as a g. The Detroit announcers are pronouncing it as J. Any help?

I believe it's a hard G.

I swear I heard our PA announcer clearly say it soft g not hard g or j and immediately after the Detroit announcer says j again.

AirP. · Post #63 » by **AirP.** » Fri Dec 21, 2018 12:07 am

Klomp wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:I'm trying to find the official pronunciation of Okogie. I thought the g was pronounced as a g. The Detroit announcers are pronouncing it as J. Any help?

I believe it's a hard G.

That's how Adam Silver said it... you can also go to highlights and hear the announcers using the hard G.
Go to 6:21

Watch on YouTube

Quentin · Post #64 » by **Quentin** » Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:37 pm

From the draft pronunciation guide....it's a soft Ga from the back of the tongue.

Josh Okogie: Josh oh-KO-ghee

KGdaBom · Post #65 » by **KGdaBom** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:29 pm

Quentin wrote:From the draft pronunciation guide....it's a soft Ga from the back of the tongue.

Josh Okogie: Josh oh-KO-ghee

Enough with the soft or hard G. Either it is a g sound or a j sound. Miyagi do Karate or Miyaji do Karate. Forest Gump or Forest Jump.

KGdaBom · Post #66 » by **KGdaBom** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 1:39 pm

AirP. wrote:
Klomp wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:I'm trying to find the official pronunciation of Okogie. I thought the g was pronounced as a g. The Detroit announcers are pronouncing it as J. Any help?

I believe it's a hard G.

That's how Adam Silver said it... you can also go to highlights and hear the announcers using the hard G.
Go to 6:21

Watch on YouTube

Thanks for the clip. Everybody in it pronounced it as a g not a j.

wolfen · Post #67 » by **wolfen** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:43 pm

I love me some Okogie but man his shooting makes even Ricky Rubio blush. Even if he doesn't get that much better from the floor, he'll still be a valuable player, but it would be nice if he were even an "average" shooter. I've read articles in the past that shooting can be improved and learned once players get into the nba, hoping Okogie will take that path like others have. That being said, ugh, he's a hot mess shooting the ball right now...

Jedzz · Post #68 » by **Jedzz** » Fri Jan 4, 2019 2:51 am

KGdaBom wrote:
Quentin wrote:From the draft pronunciation guide....it's a soft Ga from the back of the tongue.

Josh Okogie: Josh oh-KO-ghee

Enough with the soft or hard G. Either it is a g sound or a j sound. Miyagi do Karate or Miyaji do Karate. Forest Gump or Forest Jump.

That does help simplify it! How about this: Hard G (gat. get. got. pig) / Soft G (giant) sounds like a 'j' (ja) .

This is why some are saying Oko(jee) sound.
https://www.ontrackreading.com/phonics-program/the-sounds-of-the-letter-g (as in bungee)

There is a rule of thumb about following the 'g' with some vowels. But it's a weak rule that is often not the case. Especially with names. We don't sound out the word GET as "JET" just because an 'e' follows the 'g'. Unless you are the 49ers who thought they would get a jet when they signed the Vikings' FA backup RB last year.

Jedzz · Post #69 » by **Jedzz** » Fri Jan 4, 2019 2:54 am

wolfen wrote:I love me some Okogie but man his shooting makes even Ricky Rubio blush. Even if he doesn't get that much better from the floor, he'll still be a valuable player, but it would be nice if he were even an "average" shooter. I've read articles in the past that shooting can be improved and learned once players get into the nba, hoping Okogie will take that path like others have. That being said, ugh, he's a hot mess shooting the ball right now...

He was shooting much better when he started this season. He is a hot mess right now. I don't know what they've done to his shooting head. But it's par for the course on this team. He's backtracked badly. Maybe Boston was ready to take advantage of him but I think it more likely the team has his head focused on the wrong things right now and he's swimming in mud. He's had a few rough games lately.

packforfreedom · Post #70 » by **packforfreedom** » Fri Jan 4, 2019 6:34 am

He really could use some moves on offense. Right now he's running to the basket in a straight line and into the defender to get a call or not. A eurostep would do wonders for him.

Jedzz · Post #71 » by **Jedzz** » Fri Jan 4, 2019 6:26 pm

packforfreedom wrote:He really could use some moves on offense. Right now he's running to the basket in a straight line and into the defender to get a call or not. A eurostep would do wonders for him.

He does seem focused on drawing fouls. I can remember the first time I saw him do it and it struck me as wise beyond his years. Now after 50 ugly attempts to draw fouls I'm thinking Flip's kid or some remedial coach on the staff gave him this directive.

minimus · Post #72 » by **minimus** » Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:51 am

Josh might lead NBA in made circus shots.

packforfreedom · Post #73 » by **packforfreedom** » Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:17 am

call me out of control

(he'll be a good player though)

Post #74 » by **Klomp** » Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:51 pm

I've seen him draw a comparison to Corey Brewer in some places. I think there's a bit of merit to that comp, but there's also a few reasons why it's probably selling him short.

-Brewer was the No. 7 pick; Okogie was the No. 20. Comparing him to a Top 10 pick who was just a role player in his career feels like expressing disappointment in the pick. But a role player at No. 20 is fine value.
-Comparing the career arc of a 12-year vet to a 20-year old rookie seems premature. Okogie probably will get better.

McHalesBurner · Post #75 » by **McHalesBurner** » Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:23 pm

Can't Stop, Won't Stop.

Jedzz · Post #76 » by **Jedzz** » Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:51 am

Klomp wrote:-Comparing the career arc of a 12-year vet to a 20-year old rookie seems premature. Okogie probably will get better.

I doubt a single person has compared the entire career arc of Brewer to Okogie's future career arc. I think the wildness of his energy and determination with somewhat less than perfect refined skills can remind people of how Brewer sometimes plays. Almost lucky at times and yet you know they worked for it.

Why would you get defensive for Okogie when people recognize some kind of similarity and claim they compared their entire career futures? Please turn off your watch dog protection for these players. It's just silly at times. You are the premature action here.

wolfen · Post #77 » by **wolfen** » Tue Feb 5, 2019 2:43 pm

It seems our young jedi has somewhat hit that rookie wall. Yes, the shot isn't falling and hasn't for 2 months, but the rebounds and steal totals are falling as well. I was afraid this would happen putting him in such a high minute role since his strengths are best used as a bench energy defender / spark plug. I know it's only his rookie season, and yes, he wasn't a lotto pick, but his shooting and finishing are just attrocious, and for an undersized 2 he's got no floater game. I know a lot of us on the board include him in our core, at this point, I'm not convinced. Unless that shot improves dramatically this off-season...

Post #78 » by **Klomp** » Tue Feb 5, 2019 4:15 pm

wolfen wrote:It seems our young jedi has somewhat hit that rookie wall. Yes, the shot isn't falling and hasn't for 2 months, but the rebounds and steal totals are falling as well. I was afraid this would happen putting him in such a high minute role since his strengths are best used as a bench energy defender / spark plug. I know it's only his rookie season, and yes, he wasn't a lotto pick, but his shooting and finishing are just attrocious, and for an undersized 2 he's got no floater game. I know a lot of us on the board include him in our core, at this point, I'm not convinced. Unless that shot improves dramatically this off-season...

It's more than about just his minute load. He's going against better players too. Expectations should've been adjusted. Slightly easier to steal the ball from most backups than it is from starters.

wolfen · Post #79 » by **wolfen** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 1:47 am

Klomp wrote:
wolfen wrote:It seems our young jedi has somewhat hit that rookie wall. Yes, the shot isn't falling and hasn't for 2 months, but the rebounds and steal totals are falling as well. I was afraid this would happen putting him in such a high minute role since his strengths are best used as a bench energy defender / spark plug. I know it's only his rookie season, and yes, he wasn't a lotto pick, but his shooting and finishing are just attrocious, and for an undersized 2 he's got no floater game. I know a lot of us on the board include him in our core, at this point, I'm not convinced. Unless that shot improves dramatically this off-season...

It's more than about just his minute load. He's going against better players too. Expectations should've been adjusted. Slightly easier to steal the ball from most backups than it is from starters.

Good point, that being said, mainly it's his shooting I'm more than concerned about. 25th out of 25 rookies in shooting percentage. If he was even average, half way in the list, my outlook would be different. But last, dead last. Would ranking 13 of 25 be an unrealistic expectation?

http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/scoring/sort/fieldGoalPct/position/rookies

Post #80 » by **Klomp** » Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:43 pm

This kid....

Watch on YouTube