Trade Ideas, AKA Please God Bring Us Shooters

Pillendreher · Post #1701 » by **Pillendreher** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:33 pm

TheGreatSatan wrote:Can you guys please stop with this nonsense? No, sorry, you can not get Anthony Davis for Adams, Ferguson and Jeremy Grant. That's just insane.

I agree. That would be an overpay.

Osirus89 · Post #1702 » by **Osirus89** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:35 pm

Guess it’s time for Presti to start making moves to counteract a Lebron and AD tandem team and the Warriors lol

thekaoswithin · Post #1703 » by **thekaoswithin** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:42 pm

Realistically, I don't see us getting him. The organization would have traded Adams for Butler when the opportunity was there if they had any interest in moving him.

I doubt that'll change for AD. We're already a thin team, sure 3 MVP caliber players is great but what would we even put around them?

SecondTake · Post #1704 » by **SecondTake** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:49 pm

thekaoswithin wrote:Realistically, I don't see us getting him. The organization would have traded Adams for Butler when the opportunity was there if they had any interest in moving him.

I doubt that'll change for AD. We're already a thin team, sure 3 MVP caliber players is great but what would we even put around them?

Well, Butler and AD are in a different universe. You can make an argument for Adams being as valuable to a team as Butler. You can't really make that argument with AD.

Balkman32 · Post #1705 » by **Balkman32** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:53 pm

SecondTake wrote:
Dn4sty wrote:
SecondTake wrote:Ferg should be untouchable too. Guy is going to be putting up all star numbers in a few seasons.

You can’t make Ferg untouchable in an AD trade.

Basically the only guys that aren’t traceable are Russ and George.

You’d also likely need to take back Hill to help the Pelicans get off of his salary

Ferg is an elite perimeter defender, is certainly going to be better from 3 (his release is beautiful), and he doesn't look nearly developed yet. You expect him to put on weight and develop his shot/handle/defense further at his age.

He'll probably never be as good as AD, but I doubt AD resigns with OKC and we get to have Ferg cheap for the foreseeable future. If AD actually committed to OKC long term, then I trade Ferg. But no way would I do a Derozan - Leonard type trade where I'm giving up Ferg for the hope of resigning AD. He's too valuable to gamble.

AD said he wanted a chance to compete. The Thunder give him that. He is 18 months away from being a FA. He can tell you he is committed, but until he signs on that dotted line you are on the edge of your seat just like we were with George.

The Thunder fan base is off the edge of their seat for the first time since 2015. We have a team that complements it self and are playing really good ball. I know everyone is chomping at the bit to get AD.

But, maybe we keep Adams and Ferguson and go after Randal.

Balkman32 · Post #1706 » by **Balkman32** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:03 pm

SecondTake wrote:
thekaoswithin wrote:Realistically, I don't see us getting him. The organization would have traded Adams for Butler when the opportunity was there if they had any interest in moving him.

I doubt that'll change for AD. We're already a thin team, sure 3 MVP caliber players is great but what would we even put around them?

Well, Butler and AD are in a different universe. You can make an argument for Adams being as valuable to a team as Butler. You can't really make that argument with AD.

Plus the Timberbulls had KAT. Even though we think a guy has value the team trading for the guy has to have that same perceived value. Adams with KAT does not make too much sense. The Pel's have to blow it up. Adams is a heady team first guy that will do all of the right things. If I am New Orleans and you offer Adams and Ferguson I am intrigued.

Yes Lonzo, Ingram and Kuzma have played good for the Lakers. But, Lonzo has the best 3 point percentage of the 3. Plus, Lonzo is hurt. Yeah you can get some draft pick out of them. But, if you get a draft pick from any team while you give them AD that pick will be at least 10 picks higher than it was before the trade.

Post #1707 » by **ThunderBolt** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:24 pm

What about Jrue? What's his value right now?

Dn4sty · Post #1708 » by **Dn4sty** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:26 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:What about Jrue? What's his value right now?

Jrue would be incredible playing off ball between Russ and PG. I just don’t see it happening though

Dn4sty · Post #1709 » by **Dn4sty** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:27 pm

I think the AD trade makes guys like Moore far more obtainable

DoubleJ13 · Post #1710 » by **DoubleJ13** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:39 pm

Mirotic & Miller would be cool. Haven't looked at a way to do it but those 2 would be great.

Pillendreher · Post #1711 » by **Pillendreher** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:54 pm

The whole thing depends on where the Pelicans want to go from here. Do they want to stay "competetive" or do they want to tear it down and start anew?

Holiday is similar to Conley: Good PG, injury prone, bad contract.

Mirotic and Randle might be interesting as well, but it might be tough to match salaries and get them enough playing time.

Moore is something you look at if you don't think that Roberson is a part of your plans going forward.

Post #1712 » by **ThunderBolt** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:10 pm

Pillendreher wrote:The whole thing depends on where the Pelicans want to go from here. Do they want to stay "competetive" or do they want to tear it down and start anew?

Holiday is similar to Conley: Good PG, injury prone, bad contract.

Mirotic and Randle might be interesting as well, but it might be tough to match salaries and get them enough playing time.

Moore is something you look at if you don't think that Roberson is a part of your plans going forward.

Demps is a horrible GM so nothing surprises me but "staying competitive" would be an interesting choice considering they aren't competitive.

Post #1713 » by **Dadouv47** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:14 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:What about Jrue? What's his value right now?

that was my first thought when I heard about AD leaving. We can't get AD but if NOLA decides to rebuild, who knows about Jrue...(not going to be cheap though because he's not overpaid and lots of year on his contract)

Pillendreher · Post #1714 » by **Pillendreher** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:18 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:The whole thing depends on where the Pelicans want to go from here. Do they want to stay "competetive" or do they want to tear it down and start anew?

Holiday is similar to Conley: Good PG, injury prone, bad contract.

Mirotic and Randle might be interesting as well, but it might be tough to match salaries and get them enough playing time.

Moore is something you look at if you don't think that Roberson is a part of your plans going forward.

Demps is a horrible GM so nothing surprises me but "staying competitive" would be an interesting choice considering they aren't competitive.

Not in the classical sense, no, but they've also been incredibly unlucky this season: They're 13th in NetRtG, which means the same as the Rockets and better than the Clippers and Lakers, but they're underperfoming their NetRtG by an incredible margin: The Rockets are +2, the Clippers are +2 and the Lakers neutral, while the Pelicans are at -5. Holiday-Davis as a 2-man-lineup has been just as good as Westbrook-George, Bledsoe-Giannis or Curry-Thompson. It's not like they're Phoenix bad this season. Who knows where they'd be without the injuries.

Dn4sty · Post #1715 » by **Dn4sty** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:21 pm

Read on Twitter

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Balkman32 · Post #1716 » by **Balkman32** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:22 pm

Holiday and Randle would be very interesting in OKC.

Anyone think the Pel's would have interest in Schroder?

Balkman32 · Post #1717 » by **Balkman32** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:24 pm

Dn4sty wrote:

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Ill take those odds in Toronto. The fan base is already on the end of their seats why not double down. The deal would have to start with OG and Siakam. Those two would excite me if I am New Orleans front office.

Post #1718 » by **Dadouv47** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:25 pm

Balkman32 wrote:Holiday and Randle would be very interesting in OKC.

Anyone think the Pel's would have interest in Schroder?

NO WAY

Pillendreher · Post #1719 » by **Pillendreher** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:25 pm

Dn4sty wrote:Woj on The Jump spoke of the Thunder wanting to really go for it this year, implying they will be buyers at deadline in a serious attempt to take down Warriors

This part of Woj's piece reminded me of your post

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Several teams told ESPN that they're already weighing the possibility of making offers for Davis, including contenders who'd be willing to use Davis to chase a championship this season and perhaps recoup assets lost in a trade to New Orleans by flipping Davis at auction after the season -- or keeping him into the final year of his contract.

Post #1720 » by **Dadouv47** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:26 pm

Balkman32 wrote:
Dn4sty wrote:

Read on Twitter
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Ill take those odds in Toronto. The fan base is already on the end of their seats why not double down. The deal would have to start with OG and Siakam. Those two would excite me if I am New Orleans front office.

People who are betting on OKC at 14/1 are stupid