Davis to Lakers w/ Portland

[BNM]

To Blazers: Ball + Ingram + Kuzma + S.Hill + 2019&21 Lakers 1st (unprotected)
Blazers Trade: Lillard + Collins + Curry + Layman

The name of the game is basketball and as the name implies putting the ball in the basket is the goal.

POR gives up:

Damian Lillard: TS% = .592
Zach Collins: TS% = .574
Seth Curry: TS% = .586
Jake Layman: TS: = .612

POR gets:

Lonzo Ball: TS% = .487
Brandon Ingram: TS% = .538
Kyle Kuzma: TS% = .557
Solomon HIll: TS% = .493

Notice anything? The worst shooter POR gives up is better than the "best" shooter they get in return. So, POR gives up 4 guys who can shoot, including a superstar in his prime (1st team all NBA, 4th in MVP voting) and gets back a steaming pile of poo.

Just because your front office was dumb enough to fall for the Lonzo hype, don't assume anyone else is. Your youth is highly overrated. None of the players you are giving up will ever be more than average to below average role players. Shooting matters, especially in today's NBA.

Blazer Why: try a different direction

Lol, different direction is right - plummeting down the standings.

if that Lakers package is good enough for Davis than good enough for Lillard.

Lol, again. Assume much? If that trade is good enough to get Davis, then go get him and leave POR out of it. But, it's not, or it would have happened by now. Not only has it not happened, NOP finds it an insultingly lowball offer.

They have 2 trade deadlines to see how MCollum works with new roster and if not they trade him for more locked in youth supplementing team. Plus have cap space 2020 offseason and plenty of assets for consolidation trade.

Let me get this straight - all that locked in youth in LA, combined with LeBron James is good for 10th place in the Western Conference, yet the team that's currently sitting in 4th place is supposed to give up their best player, and three other guys who can actually shoot, for the privilege of combining that locked in youth (plus a bad contract) with C.J. McCollum?

LAL's locked in youth is highly overrated by their front office, and apparently, their fans. Locked in youth is only valuable if the players are any good. None of those players you are trying to foist off on POR will ever come close to being the player Damian Lillard is, yet POR is supposed to give up Lillard in his prime to get them?

How about we give you Evan Turner, Moe Harkless, Anfernee Simons and Caleb Swanigan for LeBron James? Sounds fair to me. You give up an aging, injured, past his prime superstar making $35 million and get back even more locked in youth to build around. Sound appealing to you, because it's no more ridiculous than what you are offering POR for a 1st team all-NBA player in his prime.

Cap space is meaningless to a small market team that can't attract top name free agents. The last time POR had significant cap space, their big get was Evan Turner, who is a TERRIBLE fit in POR because he can't shoot. Yet, miraculously, his TS% of .507 is BETTER than two of the four players POR would get back in your proposed trade. Yeah, let's surround C.J. with guys who can't shoot. Yeah, that'll work.

Again if your package of locked in youth is good enough to get Anthony Davis, go do it and stop trying to screw POR out of their superstar in the process. Are you really so entitled that you think TWO teams would be willing to give up their superstars, in their primes, just so your wet dream of seeing LeBron and AD together can come true?

The truth is, you don't have the assets to land AD. If you did, the deal would have been made by now. Two thirds of the teams in the league can offer a better package than your overrated, underachieving, poor shooting, locked in youth.

[BNM]

This is so putrid for Portland. No way in hell do we trade Damian Lillard for Lonzo #*#!@$¤ Ball and the rest of the Lakers disappointing youth movement. Cool how you have the Blazers taking on Solomon Hill too!

If this trade were to happen there would be violence at the Moda Center and Neil Olshey would find himself with a pitchfork up his backside.

But yet that package will land Davis in real world.

LOL!

Yeah, right:

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/252507/Lakers-Pull-Out-Of-Anthony-Davis-Trade-Talks-With-Pelicans

Here's what the Lakers offered:

The Lakers had agreed to send their entire young core of Lonzo Ball, Kyle Kuzma, Brandon Ingram, Josh Hart and Ivica Zubac to the Pelicans, as well as Kentavious Caldwell-Pope.

And, it still wasn't enough to land Davis in the "real world".

[Myth]

I kinda think Portland should consider making a push for Davis themselves to pair with Lillard.

I can't imagine they would go for an offer like the one in OP.

Exactly.

CJ McCollum, Zach Collins, Aminu, Anfernee Simons, 2019 1st unprotected, 2021 1st unprotected for Davis and Hill is as good an offer, if not better, as I've seen any team make.

Portland didn’t make Davis’s list. Would Blazers really risk such a trade and Davis bolts?? Then Lillard would be left with nothing. Would he bolt too (or demand a trade first)? Trading for Davis could cripple your franchise for like 10 years.

I think it is worth the risk, especially since I don't believe it would cripple the franchise. We'd have 2 playoff runs to hope to convince Anthony Davis to stay. That is longer than Thunder had to convince PG. Theoretically we would have a year to convince him and trade him again for more assets if it is clear he is not re-signing. If he does leave, Lillard is locked into a contract until 2021, which is when that last unprotected pick is. Obviously losing Davis in free agency would hurt, but we would have 1 year post AD leaving with only Lillard as a significant piece (assuming we get nothing for Davis) and no draft pick, so it shouldn't necessarily be an extremely high pick we are losing. If Lillard leaves in 2021, then we start the rebuild and will have our own pick in 2022, and theoretically it should be a high pick. If Lillard demands a trade after AD leaves, then we should at minimum have a high FRP and a young talent coming in (or equivelent) to replace him to start that rebuild. So yes, we would have a few down years if this doesn't pay off, but not 10 years, and I think it would be worth that risk.

[expatbayern]

This is so putrid for Portland. No way in hell do we trade Damian Lillard for Lonzo #*#!@$¤ Ball and the rest of the Lakers disappointing youth movement. Cool how you have the Blazers taking on Solomon Hill too!

If this trade were to happen there would be violence at the Moda Center and Neil Olshey would find himself with a pitchfork up his backside.

But yet that package will land Davis in real world.

LOL!

Yeah, right:

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/252507/Lakers-Pull-Out-Of-Anthony-Davis-Trade-Talks-With-Pelicans

Here's what the Lakers offered:

The Lakers had agreed to send their entire young core of Lonzo Ball, Kyle Kuzma, Brandon Ingram, Josh Hart and Ivica Zubac to the Pelicans, as well as Kentavious Caldwell-Pope.

And, it still wasn't enough to land Davis in the "real world".

So the logic of this trade goes:

- The Pelicans don't want the Lakers' crappy pu-pu platter of busts and late firsts for Davis

- So let's trade even less than that for Lillard (Davis is definitely the better player, but given that he's demanded a trade and is a rental for any non-Lakers team while Lillard is happy and locked-up long-term, their trade value is pretty similar, maybe even edge to Lillard)

- The Blazers will also send Collins and eat Hill's deal

- They'll do all of this seemingly just out of the kindness of their hearts in order to provide the value to send Anthony Davis to the Lakers (!!!)

Blazers would substantially prefer any of these options:

- Keep their happy, locked-up, superstar franchise player for themselves

- If for some strange reason they were forced to send him out, just take AD for themselves (and then potentially trade him in the summer or at the next deadline)

- If they're somehow forced to trade Lillard and forced not to keep Davis, send him literally anywhere else on the planet rather than LA