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Re: Trade Ideas Thread: Deadline Edition 

Post#141 » by Dadouv47 » Tue Feb 5, 2019 11:53 pm

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Schroeder,Abrines and Diallo for Butler



I'd do this based on talent, but what makes anyone think Jimmy would be content in OKC? He can't stay happy on stacked teams now.


Jimmy has struggled with teams with younger stars and guys who don’t work hard or as hard as they should if they wanna be great. I am pretty sure Jimmy woulden’t have an issue with PG and Russ. I just think that the Sixers have their assets now and Butler and Fultz and they can leave and fall off the earth right and then you have nothing. I don’t know what a deal would/ could look like. But, one would think that Butler and Flutz should be able to land you a guy under 30 and more of a controllable contract.

I know everyone is thinking AD, I think we should think smaller, but not that much smaller.


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Re: Trade Ideas Thread: Deadline Edition 

Post#142 » by Balkman32 » Tue Feb 5, 2019 11:54 pm

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Abrines instead of Diallo assuming he's not traded and gets healthy. Lineup would be heavily staggered though, you can have two of Westbrook/Ad/PG on the floor at all times.


I prefer our current line up. Abrines can't defend


Abrines has looked better this year defensively than in the past. He's been decent enough. Diallo can't defend a traffic cone.

And to be honest, based on our January numbers it would seem that nobody on this team can defend anyone anymore. AD is a great defender who will add 25 efficient points every night, and can guard the rim and switch to the parameter.

I would only do the deal with a long term commitment though.


If you have Westbrook and PG, AD is staying. They could also deal him at the draft if they find out he don’t wanna be there.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread: Deadline Edition 

Post#143 » by Balkman32 » Tue Feb 5, 2019 11:56 pm

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I'd do this based on talent, but what makes anyone think Jimmy would be content in OKC? He can't stay happy on stacked teams now.


Jimmy has struggled with teams with younger stars and guys who don’t work hard or as hard as they should if they wanna be great. I am pretty sure Jimmy woulden’t have an issue with PG and Russ. I just think that the Sixers have their assets now and Butler and Fultz and they can leave and fall off the earth right and then you have nothing. I don’t know what a deal would/ could look like. But, one would think that Butler and Flutz should be able to land you a guy under 30 and more of a controllable contract.

I know everyone is thinking AD, I think we should think smaller, but not that much smaller.


JRUE OR BEAL !


I wish the Zards state they ain’t tanking. They won’t deal Beal and/ or Ariza.

The Pel’s plan to win after trading AD. So they plan to keep Jrue and build around Jrue. So I guess good luck Pel’s, and a I told you so in 18 months. When they deal him for pennies on the dollar.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread: Deadline Edition 

Post#144 » by Mattv » Wed Feb 6, 2019 12:33 am

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ThunderBolt wrote:Taurean prince was 5-7 from three last night. Just saying.


I feel like Abrines aint gonna get it done. What are you offering for him?
Burton Abrines and 2nd for prince Might get it done.

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Re: Trade Ideas Thread: Deadline Edition 

Post#145 » by spearsy23 » Wed Feb 6, 2019 12:54 am

So where are we comfortable moving around the periphery assuming these pipe dream don't play out? You can't move any of the starters or Noel, I don't believe schroder is an asset teams will meet our value for. That leaves diallo, Patterson and Abrines with some semblance of value what are the names mentioned that you feel are available for that package and worth adding value for?

Garrett Temple and Justin holiday still come to mind.
Prince, but I don't think that's enough value.
Satoransky.
Ross.

That's all that's coming to me right now. Maybe call Washington and try dennis for ariza.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread: Deadline Edition 

Post#146 » by SecondTake » Wed Feb 6, 2019 12:56 am

spearsy23 wrote:So where are we comfortable moving around the periphery assuming these pipe dream don't play out? You can't move any of the starters or Noel, I don't believe schroder is an asset teams will meet our value for. That leaves diallo, Patterson and Abrines with some semblance of value what are the names mentioned that you feel are available for that package and worth adding value for?

Garrett Temple and Justin holiday still come to mind.
Prince, but I don't think that's enough value.
Satoransky.
Ross.

That's all that's coming to me right now. Maybe call Washington and try dennis for ariza.


Not sure if any of those guys moves the needle for us very much.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread: Deadline Edition 

Post#147 » by spearsy23 » Wed Feb 6, 2019 12:59 am

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spearsy23 wrote:So where are we comfortable moving around the periphery assuming these pipe dream don't play out? You can't move any of the starters or Noel, I don't believe schroder is an asset teams will meet our value for. That leaves diallo, Patterson and Abrines with some semblance of value what are the names mentioned that you feel are available for that package and worth adding value for?

Garrett Temple and Justin holiday still come to mind.
Prince, but I don't think that's enough value.
Satoransky.
Ross.

That's all that's coming to me right now. Maybe call Washington and try dennis for ariza.


Not sure if any of those guys moves the needle for us very much.

Unfortunately you have to trade using the players and picks at your disposal.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread: Deadline Edition 

Post#148 » by RalphSampsonJr » Wed Feb 6, 2019 1:41 am

SecondTake wrote:
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Yeah I mean if it this gets it done you do it and figure it out later. **** you could start Diallo at the 2 if you have Westbrook & George w/ AD. I think Grant would have to be in that trade.

You could go AD, Hill & Moore for Adams, Schroder, Grant & Ferguson. I doubt this gets it done. It would be awesome tho.


The Pels just sed no to ingram kuz lonzo rondo stephson and 2 1sts.. something tells me okc dont have enough outside of russ and pg to get it done


Adams/Grant/Ferg > Everything Lakers combined


Skill wise i agree but if you are giving up your franchise player you want young rookie contracts
As well as expirings.

You dont get locked in to 35-40 mil for the next few years if its not for an all star. Plus okc dont have 1st rounders to give. Lakers can give near future ones that arent in 2037
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread: Deadline Edition 

Post#149 » by Dn4sty » Wed Feb 6, 2019 2:38 am

spearsy23 wrote:So where are we comfortable moving around the periphery assuming these pipe dream don't play out? You can't move any of the starters or Noel, I don't believe schroder is an asset teams will meet our value for. That leaves diallo, Patterson and Abrines with some semblance of value what are the names mentioned that you feel are available for that package and worth adding value for?

Garrett Temple and Justin holiday still come to mind.
Prince, but I don't think that's enough value.
Satoransky.
Ross.

That's all that's coming to me right now. Maybe call Washington and try dennis for ariza.


I think a wing who can come off the bench and reliably hit a shot would be very valuable. Any of the guys mentioned here would help. I think I’d want Satoransky the most though
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread: Deadline Edition 

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Re: Trade Ideas Thread: Deadline Edition 

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Re: Trade Ideas Thread: Deadline Edition 

Post#152 » by Osirus89 » Wed Feb 6, 2019 5:03 am

If Reggie Bullock went for that, there is no way Atlanta will be able to ask for much for Prince. Detroit got a marginal player and 1 2nd round pick.

C'mon ATL. Just do it for Abrines w/ a second and call it a day. Might even be willing to make it two 2nds if it comes to it considering it will shed salary.

Or trade Abrines into a teams space with a 2nd and eat ellington's contract into the TPE.

I think we all know that Abrines is gone with the DNP- (Personal) again today.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread: Deadline Edition 

Post#153 » by Kizz Fastfists » Wed Feb 6, 2019 5:48 am

Osirus89 wrote:If Reggie Bullock went for that, there is no way Atlanta will be able to ask for much for Prince. Detroit got a marginal player and 1 2nd round pick.

C'mon ATL. Just do it for Abrines w/ a second and call it a day. Might even be willing to make it two 2nds if it comes to it considering it will shed salary.

Or trade Abrines into a teams space with a 2nd and eat ellington's contract into the TPE.

I think we all know that Abrines is gone with the DNP- (Personal) again today.


Bullock is an expiring contract and he turns 28 next month. Prince is significantly better, younger and has 5 more years of team control. If 28 games of Bullock is worth a 2nd round pick then 425+ games of Prince is worth 15 second round picks. Even if you are going to assume you let Prince walk after next season in RFA that would still be over 100 games or 4 second round picks if we are going on a per game basis of value. Does one first equal four 2nds or would you still need a 2nd with a 1st?

Atlanta shouldn't move Prince unless some drastically overpays, i.e. two 1st round picks with minimal protections, or they get a quality young center, which is a need, that hasn't hit RFA yet and possibly a pick. Indiana would actually be a good trade partner. Sabonis for Prince would be good for both as long-term Turner and Sabonis are going to have trouble working together and it would give Atlanta their long-term center since the upcoming draft is wing heavy in the area they project to have their current two picks.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread: Deadline Edition 

Post#154 » by Pillendreher » Wed Feb 6, 2019 6:18 am

spearsy23 wrote:So where are we comfortable moving around the periphery assuming these pipe dream don't play out? You can't move any of the starters or Noel, I don't believe schroder is an asset teams will meet our value for. That leaves diallo, Patterson and Abrines with some semblance of value what are the names mentioned that you feel are available for that package and worth adding value for?

Garrett Temple and Justin holiday still come to mind.
Prince, but I don't think that's enough value.
Satoransky.
Ross.

That's all that's coming to me right now. Maybe call Washington and try dennis for ariza.


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Re: Trade Ideas Thread: Deadline Edition 

Post#155 » by Dn4sty » Wed Feb 6, 2019 6:21 am

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Osirus89 wrote:If Reggie Bullock went for that, there is no way Atlanta will be able to ask for much for Prince. Detroit got a marginal player and 1 2nd round pick.

C'mon ATL. Just do it for Abrines w/ a second and call it a day. Might even be willing to make it two 2nds if it comes to it considering it will shed salary.

Or trade Abrines into a teams space with a 2nd and eat ellington's contract into the TPE.

I think we all know that Abrines is gone with the DNP- (Personal) again today.


Bullock is an expiring contract and he turns 28 next month. Prince is significantly better, younger and has 5 more years of team control. If 28 games of Bullock is worth a 2nd round pick then 425+ games of Prince is worth 15 second round picks. Even if you are going to assume you let Prince walk after next season in RFA that would still be over 100 games or 4 second round picks if we are going on a per game basis of value. Does one first equal four 2nds or would you still need a 2nd with a 1st?

Atlanta shouldn't move Prince unless some drastically overpays, i.e. two 1st round picks with minimal protections, or they get a quality young center, which is a need, that hasn't hit RFA yet and possibly a pick. Indiana would actually be a good trade partner. Sabonis for Prince would be good for both as long-term Turner and Sabonis are going to have trouble working together and it would give Atlanta their long-term center since the upcoming draft is wing heavy in the area they project to have their current two picks.


Sabonis is far superior to Prince.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread: Deadline Edition 

Post#156 » by Pillendreher » Wed Feb 6, 2019 6:25 am

Have there been any reports on Pricen or are we just speculating?
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread: Deadline Edition 

Post#157 » by RunOKC » Wed Feb 6, 2019 7:10 am

Can we get Terrance Ross or...
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Post#158 » by Kizz Fastfists » Wed Feb 6, 2019 8:04 am

Pillendreher wrote:Have there been any reports on Pricen or are we just speculating?


Mostly speculation. There was something the other day where it was rumored Atlanta would move him in the right deal.
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Post#159 » by ThunderBolt » Wed Feb 6, 2019 10:27 am

Kizz Fastfists wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:Have there been any reports on Pricen or are we just speculating?


Mostly speculation. There was something the other day where it was rumored Atlanta would move him in the right deal.

Mostly reports from Atlanta but I’ve not seeing anything mentioning us.
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Post#160 » by ThunderBolt » Wed Feb 6, 2019 10:32 am

I would have gladly taken Bullock for a second.
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