Instead of a draft why not hold a live auction for NBA prospects

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Re: Instead of a draft why not hold a live auction for NBA prospects 

Post#21 » by chyau.00 » Sun Feb 24, 2019 12:57 am

Shock Defeat wrote:Base it on a team's cap space. A team can bid as high as they want to offer a contract to a player if they have the cap space. The only rule is that the contract length must be 4 years. The team that offers the most gets that player. You must own a draft pick in order to bid and win a player. If you want 2 players in the 1st round of the auction, you must own 2 1st round draft picks.

There are no cons to this model compared to the current model
1. It eliminates tanking, teams would be looking to win because there is no incentive to be the worst team in the NBA.
2. It's a fairer process, why should 1 team be awarded a generational talent like Zion based on tanking and luck? At least here, the team that takes Zion will have to manage their salary AND be smart about it. Imagine spending all of their cap space on a talent that ends up busting. You have to weigh the risks and the rewards.
3. Good teams that make the Playoffs are further rewarded because they are not excluded from drafting elite talent, if they make the Playoffs but also have a ton of cap space, why should that be penalized?
4. It's fairer for the players, why should Zion get paid the rookie scale contract if he's already better than most NBA players? He should be paid his market value from year 1.
5. Draft picks are still valuable like I said, consider it the ticket to the draft. They can still be traded and be a part of deals.
6. It will even out the compensation for an NBA player throughout the life of his career. Right now the reason veterans get such loaded deals like the supermax is because for the first 4 years of their career they were getting paid way under market value. We won't have as many albatross contracts to players in their 30s.



I have thought of something similar before, but instead of a bid, it should be based on team's rankings (top team gets first pick, etc). However, there should be a separate cap for players on rookie contracts.

So this year, gsw can either choose to use the first pick and get hit by the first picks cap or they skip the first selection and let the 2nd place team choose. Second place team can either select or let third team choose, etc. Once the "first" pick is made (essentially the bidding process), then gsw will get a chance at selecting the second player (or skip again). until all 60 players are selected.

Although top teams get first pick, the last place teams should get a "higher" increase in cap, allowing them to be more risk seeking in their selections.
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Re: Instead of a draft why not hold a live auction for NBA prospects 

Post#22 » by LakersLegacy » Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:09 am

Pat Riley has been wanting this for a long time.

Under his season each point gets various amounts of tokens. But every team, even the gets at least one toke. Let’s say the worst teams gets 4 tokens

Teams can bank them and then they would bid on players. Teams could trade players for tokens.

It’s an interesting idea. And has nothing to do with slavery. They are bidding on what players they have the privilege of paying a hundred million dollars and giving them the keys to the castle.
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Post#23 » by Sgt Major » Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:09 am

Two of the dumbest threads this week, both made by the same guy the same evening. Man's on a mission, I guess.
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Post#24 » by Hellcrooner » Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:13 am

there,s a better idea yet.

eliminate the draft.
let free market rule.

Young players wiht star potential ARE NOT GOING to sign for the warriors to be glued to the bottom of the bench.
They will sign for the suns to be able to start and star from the beggining and showcase their abilities.


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Post#25 » by Nutty Nats Fan » Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:29 am

magnumt wrote:Slavery implications? :dontknow:

They used to do a regional thing before the official Draft started.

--Mags :beer:

I can definitely see the outrage culture relating this to slavery.

Top Draft prospects who could be seeing a salary increase of $10 million or more per year, would tell those people to STFU.
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Post#26 » by FlyingArrow » Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:31 am

Algorithmic Game Theory could do a lot for balance in the draft.
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Post#27 » by Da ThRONe » Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:32 am

The problem isn't the draft, it's a league designed to help the rich get richer. The only drastic change the NBA should make is reducing the season by 22 games.
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Post#28 » by Scuall » Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:35 am

If this was implemented, there would need to be a way for players to escape their team. An underground system, something based on the railroads.
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Re: Instead of a draft why not hold a live auction for NBA prospects 

Post#29 » by magnumt » Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:38 am

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magnumt wrote:Slavery implications? :dontknow:

They used to do a regional thing before the official Draft started.

--Mags :beer:

I can definitely see the outrage culture relating this to slavery.

Top Draft prospects who could be seeing a salary increase of $10 million or more per year, would tell those people to STFU.


Probably not since guys making $100 Million would also be outraged.

Yes they would have a shot at more than the Rookie scale but this idea would be culturally wrong and set a bad example on so many levels.

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Post#30 » by BallerTalk » Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:41 am

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TheFinishSniper wrote:Can you imagine white owners sitting in their chairs holding their bid while announcers calls black mans to enters the stage and we held auction. And announcer goes "We have now young 19 year old, healthy, perfect white teeth, good strenght etc. Let's go 1st offer 1M, we have 1 M, can we get 2M. "

Are you nuts. Are you ok in your head?


I can imagine it just fine. I don’t see race so I don’t see what the problem is. I’m sure racists would have a problem with it though.


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Post#31 » by Fencer reregistered » Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:47 am

As long as there's a limit on rookie salaries -- whether the league maximum salary or something a lot lower -- then simple forms of this system can't work. And of course there will continue to be a limit, since owners and non-rookie players will all want there to be.

That said, you could have a sealed bid auction, with ties broken according to the same factors that now determine draft position. But no such system is close to being perfect, if by "perfect" we mean in a system in which:
-- Each team finds it strategically advisable to honestly discloss the value they place on each player being put up for auction.
-- Players are then allocated to teams in a way that would generally be agreed to be optimal and fair.
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Post#32 » by BallerTalk » Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:59 am

I used to wonder how certain cluelessly insensitive ideas get to market and what tone-deaf conversations must occur in the process.

This thread explains a lot.
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Post#33 » by JohnnyNightrain » Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:15 am

I work in public relations and seeing the gestation of absolutely stupid ideas like this will never cease to amaze me. It just takes one or two people to say some nonsense like "I don't see race; I don't see an issue" and a few other people jump on board and before you know it you have a PR disaster. People like me exist to say "This is a ridiculously dumb idea, don't do it. Don't even talk about it."

On a related note, this week I had to tell someone that coloring Asian kids yellow on a poster about reading was not a good idea. How people even get to these points baffles me.
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Post#34 » by Stavrogin » Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:42 am

JohnnyNightrain wrote:I work in public relations and seeing the gestation of absolutely stupid ideas like this will never cease to amaze me. It just takes one or two people to say some nonsense like "I don't see race; I don't see an issue" and a few other people jump on board and before you know it you have a PR disaster. People like me exist to say "This is a ridiculously dumb idea, don't do it. Don't even talk about it."

On a related note, this week I had to tell someone that coloring Asian kids yellow on a poster about reading was not a good idea. How people even get to these points baffles me.


If people like you are against it it's probably a fantastic idea.
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Post#35 » by JohnnyNightrain » Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:52 am

Stavrogin wrote:
JohnnyNightrain wrote:I work in public relations and seeing the gestation of absolutely stupid ideas like this will never cease to amaze me. It just takes one or two people to say some nonsense like "I don't see race; I don't see an issue" and a few other people jump on board and before you know it you have a PR disaster. People like me exist to say "This is a ridiculously dumb idea, don't do it. Don't even talk about it."

On a related note, this week I had to tell someone that coloring Asian kids yellow on a poster about reading was not a good idea. How people even get to these points baffles me.


If people like you are against it it's probably a fantastic idea.


That doesn't even begin to make sense.
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Post#36 » by Stavrogin » Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:56 am

JohnnyNightrain wrote:
Stavrogin wrote:
JohnnyNightrain wrote:I work in public relations and seeing the gestation of absolutely stupid ideas like this will never cease to amaze me. It just takes one or two people to say some nonsense like "I don't see race; I don't see an issue" and a few other people jump on board and before you know it you have a PR disaster. People like me exist to say "This is a ridiculously dumb idea, don't do it. Don't even talk about it."

On a related note, this week I had to tell someone that coloring Asian kids yellow on a poster about reading was not a good idea. How people even get to these points baffles me.


If people like you are against it it's probably a fantastic idea.


That doesn't even begin to make sense.


Why not?
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Post#37 » by JimmerAllStar » Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:57 am

I have a better idea.

Why not just do a rose ceremony? Have a player hand out roses to teams that he wants to be with. A team that gets a rose makes it on to the next round.
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Post#38 » by axeman23 » Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:02 am

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Post#40 » by Nuntius » Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:31 am

An auction. For human beings. Are you for real, OP? :o
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