Kuya wrote:We need a major roster overhaul to be re-motivated.
Make sure Splash Bros stay together and then just build around that. Hopefully the front office can work some magic around our cap space.
What cap space is that?
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Kuya wrote:We need a major roster overhaul to be re-motivated.
Make sure Splash Bros stay together and then just build around that. Hopefully the front office can work some magic around our cap space.
Mark Jackson wrote:Playoff preparation is overrated... I’m going to get my rest. I’m not going to grow old and be stressed out and get gray hair.
likashing wrote:I’m still slight above 50/50 that KD will stay. If he does want to go to Boston for a s&t, I wonder what we can get out of it.
”Mav_Carter wrote: my list doesn't matter...I'm pretty much wrong on everything...
Mylie10 wrote:likashing wrote:I’m still slight above 50/50 that KD will stay. If he does want to go to Boston for a s&t, I wonder what we can get out of it.
Not a real question, but one to think about would be Horford or Hayward.
Sign and trades are highly unlikely, but it might be a possibilty. And I don't think KD is looking to screw the Warriors by any stretch, so of it were the case it might be a helpful way to add a good player.
Im sure Statsman will come in hear and tell me I'm full of it, which is fine, be ause he knows his cap stuff.
Mark Jackson wrote:Playoff preparation is overrated... I’m going to get my rest. I’m not going to grow old and be stressed out and get gray hair.
Mylie10 wrote:likashing wrote:I’m still slight above 50/50 that KD will stay. If he does want to go to Boston for a s&t, I wonder what we can get out of it.
Not a real question, but one to think about would be Horford or Hayward.
Sign and trades are highly unlikely, but it might be a possibilty. And I don't think KD is looking to screw the Warriors by any stretch, so of it were the case it might be a helpful way to add a good player.
Im sure Statsman will come in hear and tell me I'm full of it, which is fine, be ause he knows his cap stuff.
xdrta+ wrote:Mylie10 wrote:likashing wrote:I’m still slight above 50/50 that KD will stay. If he does want to go to Boston for a s&t, I wonder what we can get out of it.
Not a real question, but one to think about would be Horford or Hayward.
Sign and trades are highly unlikely, but it might be a possibilty. And I don't think KD is looking to screw the Warriors by any stretch, so of it were the case it might be a helpful way to add a good player.
Im sure Statsman will come in hear and tell me I'm full of it, which is fine, be ause he knows his cap stuff.
I'm not Statsman, but the reason an S&T would be difficult in this case is because of the rules on salary matching that apply. For the team receiving the player in a sign-and-trade, the full salary would apply for matching purposes. For the team trading the player, 50% of the new salary applies. So, assuming Durant signs for his max, about $38M, the full amount would count for Boston, but only $19M would count from the Warrior side. This means that Boston would have to send out about $29M in salary, which is more than the Warriors could take back. It would be extremely difficult to structure.
That is one reason there have been no S&Ts since the new CBA, added to the fact that teams can no longer sign the player to a full Bird contract, 5yr/8%raises, but are limited to what the new team can offer, 4yr/5% raises.
Mylie10 wrote:If we lose KD my first move is to fly to Australia and convince Bogut to come back on a vet minimum deal.
This year for the Sydney Kings Bogut has played all 26 games 30 minutes per game.
12 points, 12 rebounds, 3.4 assists, and 2.6 blocks per.
Looks like he's in good shape and he and Draymond together are formidable.
That's move 1.
”Mav_Carter wrote: my list doesn't matter...I'm pretty much wrong on everything...
Phase 3 wrote:Bottom line, there’s no way to recover quickly from losing KD because the Warriors have very limited cap flexibility going forward and the championship window is probably closed.
Coxy wrote:Phase 3 wrote:Bottom line, there’s no way to recover quickly from losing KD because the Warriors have very limited cap flexibility going forward and the championship window is probably closed.
What a load of garbage. We won without Durant, and set the regular season all time wins record along the way. Losing Durant just means we target players that can help us get back to what we were before, which specifically means a rim running, shot blocking C and another wing that is versatile on both ends. We sure up those 2 spots and we'll be right in the mix to compete for another title.
Add in the fact that there will be a loud bunch of naysayers out there proclaiming that the Warriors are now finished, and the core guys want to shove that notion up peoples fannies.
Fart sounds.
Mylie10 wrote:Mylie10 wrote:If we lose KD my first move is to fly to Australia and convince Bogut to come back on a vet minimum deal.
This year for the Sydney Kings Bogut has played all 26 games 30 minutes per game.
12 points, 12 rebounds, 3.4 assists, and 2.6 blocks per.
Looks like he's in good shape and he and Draymond together are formidable.
That's move 1.
Who is this dude quoting above ^^^ He seems like he has a pulse for the organization, lol
Just to let you know, I've reached out to Mo Speights about next season. Will let you know shortly.
Phase 3 wrote:Coxy wrote:Phase 3 wrote:Bottom line, there’s no way to recover quickly from losing KD because the Warriors have very limited cap flexibility going forward and the championship window is probably closed.
What a load of garbage. We won without Durant, and set the regular season all time wins record along the way. Losing Durant just means we target players that can help us get back to what we were before, which specifically means a rim running, shot blocking C and another wing that is versatile on both ends. We sure up those 2 spots and we'll be right in the mix to compete for another title.
Add in the fact that there will be a loud bunch of naysayers out there proclaiming that the Warriors are now finished, and the core guys want to shove that notion up peoples fannies.
Fart sounds.
The truth hurts. Sorry I ruffled your feathers.
Coxy wrote:Phase 3 wrote:Coxy wrote:
What a load of garbage. We won without Durant, and set the regular season all time wins record along the way. Losing Durant just means we target players that can help us get back to what we were before, which specifically means a rim running, shot blocking C and another wing that is versatile on both ends. We sure up those 2 spots and we'll be right in the mix to compete for another title.
Add in the fact that there will be a loud bunch of naysayers out there proclaiming that the Warriors are now finished, and the core guys want to shove that notion up peoples fannies.
Fart sounds.
The truth hurts. Sorry I ruffled your feathers.
My feathers are smooth as silk dude, you are the one proclaiming that we are probably finished if KD leaves. Chicken Little FTW.
Phase 3 wrote:Coxy wrote:Phase 3 wrote:The truth hurts. Sorry I ruffled your feathers.
My feathers are smooth as silk dude, you are the one proclaiming that we are probably finished if KD leaves. Chicken Little FTW.
Nah. I don’t think we’re “finished”...I still think they’ll be a good team. They won’t win another championship though unless Myers pulls off a miraculous trade or free agent signing.
Coxy wrote:Phase 3 wrote:Coxy wrote:
My feathers are smooth as silk dude, you are the one proclaiming that we are probably finished if KD leaves. Chicken Little FTW.
Nah. I don’t think we’re “finished”...I still think they’ll be a good team. They won’t win another championship though unless Myers pulls off a miraculous trade or free agent signing.
Has Myers been so disappointing in his GMing to you that you think he, and our front office and players, can't reboot to surround the guys that won 73 wins in a single season to stay at the top? I have full faith in it happening, no reason not to.
Steph, Klay and Draymond's destinies were never linked to Kevin fricken Durant. He joined OUR party, not the other way around. Myers, Lacob and the gang will figure it out.
Coxy wrote:Phase 3 wrote:Coxy wrote:
My feathers are smooth as silk dude, you are the one proclaiming that we are probably finished if KD leaves. Chicken Little FTW.
Nah. I don’t think we’re “finished”...I still think they’ll be a good team. They won’t win another championship though unless Myers pulls off a miraculous trade or free agent signing.
Has Myers been so disappointing in his GMing to you that you think he, and our front office and players, can't reboot to surround the guys that won 73 wins in a single season to stay at the top? I have full faith in it happening, no reason not to.
Steph, Klay and Draymond's destinies were never linked to Kevin fricken Durant. He joined OUR party, not the other way around. Myers, Lacob and the gang will figure it out.
likashing wrote:If KD wants to go to the Celtics and they have no cap space, then they have to do a sign and trade.
You don't see S&T often nowadays because there is no incentive to do so when the destination team has cap space. But for KD's case, that is the only way he can head to Boston.
Horford has a PO for $30m so I believe theoretically he can be the center piece for a S&T for KD onces Horford opts in.
KD also has a $31.5m PO as well. Maybe... just maybe... they can be traded for each other if they both opt-in, CP3 to the Rockets style. This way, Boston (or any other new team), will have KD's Bird's rights in 2020 summer.
Actually, thinking more about it, and how CP3 could opt-out after the season, rescind the opt-out, and got traded, makes me feel like KD has many more options than just the teams with cap space.
Phase 3 wrote:Coxy wrote:Phase 3 wrote:Nah. I don’t think we’re “finished”...I still think they’ll be a good team. They won’t win another championship though unless Myers pulls off a miraculous trade or free agent signing.
Has Myers been so disappointing in his GMing to you that you think he, and our front office and players, can't reboot to surround the guys that won 73 wins in a single season to stay at the top? I have full faith in it happening, no reason not to.
Steph, Klay and Draymond's destinies were never linked to Kevin fricken Durant. He joined OUR party, not the other way around. Myers, Lacob and the gang will figure it out.
It’s not about Bob Myers for me. It’s about Father Time. These guys have a lot mileage and they’re not in their mid 20’s anymore like they were during that 73 win team run. Curry will be turning 32 next season. Klay and Dray are turning 30 next season. Iguodala will be 36.
Unless you surround those guys with another young stud(kinda like when the Spurs drafted Kawhi), it’s going to be extremely tough for those guys to carry the same load they used to carry back in the day.
On top of all that, the league has gotten a lot better since 2015.
Look, I still think these guys can be a very good team for another couple of years. But I can’t see them winning another title without KD unless Myers happens to pull off something really great. Hopefully Myers has some magic left in him and I’m proven wrong.
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