3/17 | G71: Miami Heat at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST

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Player(s) of the Game

Paul George | 31 PTS (9-18 FG, 4-11 3P), 9 REB, 5 AST
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Jerami Grant | 27 PTS (10-16 FG), 10 REB
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Re: 3/17 | G71: Miami Heat at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#41 » by Dadouv47 » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:25 am

Dadouv47 wrote:
Kizz Fastfists wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:Ferguson's trade value going down :(


One game does not effect the trade value of a 20 year old. Teams are not going to change their evaluation based on one game rather he goes off for 50 or goes 2-16. Am are we also to believe that Russ' trade value dropped this week because of his last game? If you are intellectually honest you have to say Russ' value dropped. If you are just looking to find something fictional to complain about then your post accomplished that.


I'm talking about 2 months, not 1 game


I have been complaining about Ferguson for 2 months so the dishonest person here is not me.
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Re: 3/17 | G71: Miami Heat at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#42 » by Thunder Up » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:26 am

Ferguson is at below Roberson level productivity offensively and about half the defender he was
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Re: 3/17 | G71: Miami Heat at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#43 » by Kizz Fastfists » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:33 am

Dn4sty wrote:Grant and George are the only “assets” and you don’t trade George unless he asks for it.


Why don't you trade PG? I honestly have no idea why that wouldn't be the top priority of the off-season if they get knocked out in the first round again. You don't trade Russ unless he asks because he has been here his whole career and the Russ show fills seats. You can't get any significant return for anyone on the roster other than PG. You trade him, maybe to Dallas if they get lucky and have a top 5 pick, for picks and youth to start your rebuild. A rebuild would almost look like it did when Presti first took over. Remember the first two roster moved Presti made was to draft kd then trade Ray Allen. I guess "you don't trade Ray Allen" makes as much sense as "you don't trade Paul George". Good thing Presti knew better back then.

Presti has been a disaster since he ran off kd. Yes, Presti ran him off! He got rid of the coach kd liked for one kd didn't like. That is without getting into the Harden trade which started OKC down the path from potential dynasty to historically on par with the Penny/Shaq Magic run.
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Re: 3/17 | G71: Miami Heat at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#44 » by Dn4sty » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:39 am

Kizz Fastfists wrote:
Dn4sty wrote:Grant and George are the only “assets” and you don’t trade George unless he asks for it.


Why don't you trade PG? I honestly have no idea why that wouldn't be the top priority of the off-season if they get knocked out in the first round again. You don't trade Russ unless he asks because he has been here his whole career and the Russ show fills seats. You can't get any significant return for anyone on the roster other than PG. You trade him, maybe to Dallas if they get lucky and have a top 5 pick, for picks and youth to start your rebuild. A rebuild would almost look like it did when Presti first took over. Remember the first two roster moved Presti made was to draft kd then trade Ray Allen. I guess "you don't trade Ray Allen" makes as much sense as "you don't trade Paul George". Good thing Presti knew better back then.

Presti has been a disaster since he ran off kd. Yes, Presti ran him off! He got rid of the coach kd liked for one kd didn't like. That is without getting into the Harden trade which started OKC down the path from potential dynasty to historically on par with the Penny/Shaq Magic run.


The goal in the NBA is to keep stars or acquire them. OKC has one in PG (and occasionally 2 in Russ).

The rest of your post is silliness so I won’t even engage with it
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Re: 3/17 | G71: Miami Heat at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#45 » by RalphSampsonJr » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:39 am

Im almost happy for them to miss the playoffs.. it will force Sam to make a change. Either a big trade or the firing of Billy
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Re: 3/17 | G71: Miami Heat at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#46 » by Osirus89 » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:39 am

Billy Donovan:
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Help! I'm an NBA coach that has no idea how to play against a zone. It's not like that is what Miami used the previous game or what they have been doing all season.

Tied with the Spurs now. The cushion is completely gone now. Now it comes down to what teams have the better record.

Kyle Lowry might not play in the Toronto games. It might not matter with this team.

Oh and Dennis Schroeder still sucks. That turnover he had where he lost the ball and it went down his back was comedy.

Watching these guys trying horrible ways to attack a zone was a Shakespeare tragedy. Throwing floaters isn't the way to attack a zone you idiots. It's like no one had any idea what to do when the game started. They could easily beat Miami's gimmick defense by moving that ball but that's like asking a three year old to give a lecture on astrophysics.
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Re: 3/17 | G71: Miami Heat at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#47 » by Kizz Fastfists » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:51 am

Dadouv47 wrote:I have been complaining about Ferguson for 2 months so the dishonest person here is not me.


Considering he had his best shooing month of the season in January with a 66% TS and 48% 3pt% then his 2nd best month was February with a 57% TS and 35% from 3. You are admitting to complaining about him playing well? If you would have said all month at least that would have made some sense since. He's been rough since the 26th of February, but that is 3 weeks not 2 months. Tonight was also a really interesting night to say it since he led the team in +/- and was solid, 3-9, from 3.
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Re: 3/17 | G71: Miami Heat at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#48 » by RalphSampsonJr » Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:08 am

Kizz Fastfists wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:I have been complaining about Ferguson for 2 months so the dishonest person here is not me.


Considering he had his best shooing month of the season in January with a 66% TS and 48% 3pt% then his 2nd best month was February with a 57% TS and 35% from 3. You are admitting to complaining about him playing well? If you would have said all month at least that would have made some sense since. He's been rough since the 26th of February, but that is 3 weeks not 2 months. Tonight was also a really interesting night to say it since he led the team in +/- and was solid, 3-9, from 3.


Thats the thing i dont get with this Burton over Tferg thing.

Yea he doesnt do anything flashy except if he gets a run away dunk but the team is far better off if hes playing at the 2. Dude played 37 mins and the team out scored the heat by 10.

This is roberson all over again. Because he isnt a focal point on offense he must not be bringing anything to the table. Except he is and the team performs better than when hes on the court.

All this while playing against the opponents top guys
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Re: 3/17 | G71: Miami Heat at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#49 » by Dn4sty » Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:12 am

Here’s a perfect example of why Billy is dumb. Heat go on a 21-2 run and NO TIMEOUT. OKC scores 4 points in the 3rd and Spolestra calls timeout immediately...

Does Billy have a clause in his contract where he gets bonus money if he doesn’t call timeouts
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Re: 3/17 | G71: Miami Heat at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#50 » by RunOKC » Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:17 am

Anyone really care where we finish anymore?
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Re: 3/17 | G71: Miami Heat at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#51 » by bondom34 » Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:48 am

TBH they don't deserve the playoffs. I've totally shut it down and gone to full apathy with them, started watching college because they went full moron. They almost got me invested, and I was wrong. Never trust em again. Anyone but Houston.
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Re: 3/17 | G71: Miami Heat at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#52 » by ThunderBolt » Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:58 am

“I’m not worried about that,” Thunder coach Billy Donovan said of going 4-9 in the past 13 games. “We have really good guys. This is part of it, we’re playing a really hard schedule. We’ve got really competitive guys, and they’re going to take on the challenge.”
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Re: 3/17 | G71: Miami Heat at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#53 » by Kizz Fastfists » Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:22 am

If Billy thinks this is a hard schedule what does he think the playoff schedule is going to look like? Playing GS, Denver or Houston every game is going to somehow be better?
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Re: 3/17 | G71: Miami Heat at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#54 » by ozwizard8 » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:02 am

Osirus89 wrote:Billy Donovan:
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Help! I'm an NBA coach that has no idea how to play against a zone. It's not like that is what Miami used the previous game or what they have been doing all season.

Tied with the Spurs now. The cushion is completely gone now. Now it comes down to what teams have the better record.

Kyle Lowry might not play in the Toronto games. It might not matter with this team.

Oh and Dennis Schroeder still sucks. That turnover he had where he lost the ball and it went down his back was comedy.

Watching these guys trying horrible ways to attack a zone was a Shakespeare tragedy. Throwing floaters isn't the way to attack a zone you idiots. It's like no one had any idea what to do when the game started. They could easily beat Miami's gimmick defense by moving that ball but that's like asking a three year old to give a lecture on astrophysics.

Its all on B.Donovan again.
I actually dont care much. Its another lost season.

Small market team, deep in luxury tax, one of the highest payroll.. Another 1st round exit seen in the horizon.

Billy's team can only win when they have superior talent. (PG+WB+all other good pieces)
But they also need to play with high effort.
And even if they play with high effort to a team like Washington etc games going to 4th quarter.

Meanwhile you can watch how Raptors games, GSW games and others played out. Half of their wins= 1 good quarter + cruising.

Schedule is tough so no one should expect home court advantage for 1st round.
Moreover, team would still compete to win games and they'll be exhausted in playoffs.

I'd rather rest guys like WB-PG-Adams more in next games and try to finish 7th or 8th and play with Denver.
OKC would have more chance to beat GSW with rest compared to playing with Rockets-Jazz with exhausted starting 5.
B.Donovan's incompetence shown in many instances. How can you trust him for a playoff series? Like last year against Jazz he wont be able to counter a move of opposing coaches.

If I'm in ownership group I'd blame Sam Presti for this too.
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Re: 3/17 | G71: Miami Heat at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#55 » by Old Man Game » Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:29 pm

I just keep going back to how dumb **** Presti already gave Bill Doh and extension before even seeing how the rest of this season would play out. Just complete incompetence in the way he's handled this coaching situation.
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Re: 3/17 | G71: Miami Heat at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#56 » by JustOneFix » Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:48 pm

It's not possible to win with this kind of offensively challenged second unit. This got to be one of the worst benches i've seen in my lifetime. The moment you see them you find yourself thinking 'oh, there are no baskets in here'.
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Re: 3/17 | G71: Miami Heat at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#57 » by CROklahoma » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:20 pm

Im out till the playoffs begin. Its actually great just watching full game highlights on yt, rather than starting my day emotionaly exhausted from day to day these past 5-6-7 years.

Im gonna give them a week of that in mid April, but I'll be good again knowing its gonna be all done soon after that ...
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Re: 3/17 | G71: Miami Heat at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#58 » by ThunderBolt » Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:58 pm

Old Man Game wrote:I just keep going back to how dumb **** Presti already gave Bill Doh and extension before even seeing how the rest of this season would play out. Just complete incompetence in the way he's handled this coaching situation.


As fans we have the right to demand better from the front office and organization. It really irks me when people so thunder fans are spoiled and we should accept whatever is thrown out on the court. If we finished with 30 wins, had some young guys showing promise, tried to play the right way and weren’t in salary cap hell then I wouldn’t complain that much. This slow sinking ship is what aggravated me more than any possible scenario.
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Re: 3/17 | G71: Miami Heat at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#59 » by acheema0 » Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:06 pm

Kind of crazy our bench got outscored by so much considering we have Deonte "Zion Williamson" Burton on the bench and they don't.
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Re: 3/17 | G71: Miami Heat at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#60 » by Thunder Up » Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:00 pm

Kizz Fastfists wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:I have been complaining about Ferguson for 2 months so the dishonest person here is not me.


Considering he had his best shooing month of the season in January with a 66% TS and 48% 3pt% then his 2nd best month was February with a 57% TS and 35% from 3. You are admitting to complaining about him playing well? If you would have said all month at least that would have made some sense since. He's been rough since the 26th of February, but that is 3 weeks not 2 months. Tonight was also a really interesting night to say it since he led the team in +/- and was solid, 3-9, from 3.


If solid is going 3/9 on eight butt ass naked three pointers, you have some very very low standards for your shooters

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