Revenged25 wrote:Stillwater wrote:Revenged25 wrote:
Considering how this team has played while being injured and trying to lose I think Beal would put them in a great place to beat Philly/Milwaukee/Toronto in a 7 game series but I think they would be right there with those teams with a legit debate on on who will be getting out of the East. The Boston/AD thing really depends on the pieces in play. It might end up being a team of Kyrie/Hayward/AD/Horford and vet min guys as everyone is traded away and although that's a really good starting 4, their depth is going to be horrendous so if you avoid them in the first round of the playoffs you might be able to just run them out of the building in the 2nd or 3rd round. One of the most underrated things about the Warriors during their run has been their ridiculous bench players performances.
My take on the plan without getting a Zion or Ja/RJ is simply to continue to run on the treadmill next season unless Love stays healthy where they may push for a 8th seed early on & bolster the value of the some of the players that will get moved at the dl, then after the break with players acquired make a playoff push if healthy, or if draft assets acquired ; play rookies heavy minutes after the break to retain the pick in the top 10 etc. Now if they get Zion or Ja I think they make a move this summer to fast forward somewhat and forfeit the pick in 2020 most likely.I don't see them trading the pick in the top 3 at all, and I think 4-10 is also very unlikely to be moved for value to justify it.
Fair enough and I'm 100% behind just running it back with any of those 3, though I really don't like the fit of Zion with the current roster's core players and would prefer moving him if the right trade came along. I'm just bored and figured why not toss out what it would take for us to move a top 3 pick.
Like would Beal & #8 be worth Zion + Salary Fillers? Would Washington do it? What if it was Ja/RJ instead?
Would Portland trade CJ for #2/3 + Tristan + Filler since Nurcik will probably miss a bit of next season too and let them do a reboot while still keeping a big in Tristan a year and be able to have a max FA as well in 2020 to join them. What if the pick is #4-7?
Right now our only concern/debates are if we don't get a top 3 pick, then what as any of the top 3 are definite game changers. Do you go for the high upside yet streaky Reddish? How about Culver or Hunter? It just becomes much less appealing although they will likely still be good NBA players, just not the same ability to change the narrative.
Yeah I absolutely hate Reddish as a prospect and will bail as a Cavs fan if they do that regardless of initial upside projections, his numbers across the board are on par with a late 2nd round to undrafted player not a lottery pick...but that being said I think this league has enough front offices full of themselves enough to think he could be the next giannis or some crap. I don't see it.
sorry for the rant but to me nobody that would be offered in exchange for a top 3 pick would justify it as the returning player is likely going to need to paid,and would have to be a 1st option which seems unlikely to be moved to CLE for just a top 3 pick. I mean maybe you could get an AD rental but why would you do that? I don't think Beal or CJ as good as they are get offered and even if they were, I don't think the Cavs "should" make those trades.
I don't agree about the Zion fit issue. Too me it would be a huge upgrade adding a player with that much dynamic athleticism to the roster who can defend 3 or 4 positions dominate inside or drive the lane all day long regardless of defensive assignment.
The Cavs front court is solid but it is not nearly good enough to justify passing up on Zion because of it.
The Cavs can get a high upside sg/sf at 23-25 that fits the timeline of the rebuild and makes more sense long term next to Sexton than current Cavs off guards. I mean anyone from Kevin Porter to K.Okpala could fall there, and if not they could just as easily grab a sleeper like Dejon Jarreau,O.Agbaji or Nahziah Carter at 25
