Jarrett Culver

[Shock Defeat]

Culver is Evan Turner in the NBA

[Stillwater]

Culver is Evan Turner in the NBA

Yeah I'm not a fan of that comparison, because Turner was a bust for the most part, and Culver has a much higher floor than that.

[mattg]

people are oddly hating on a player who's a consistent jumper away from being an elite prospect.

btw, last season he actually shot 38% from 3 on even more attempts per game, and he's at almost 70% at the line for his career. all signs point to him being a respectable shooter at the NBA level, which is all what he needs to be combined with the rest of his skill set offensively.

as for his performance the last two games, yea he should've played better, but was still able to contribute across the board despite not shooting well at all. don't put too much emphasis on this. last year's #1 overall pick was was shut down and bounced from the tournament in the first round, the previous #1 overall pick didn't even get close to making the tournament.

The issue is that his shot is completely jacked and needs to be thoroughly reworked, percentages are pretty meaningless at this point with his mechanics because that shot isn’t translating. His release is terrible and he has a weird hitchy action going on. He’s not MKG level in that regard, but I’d be absolutely floored if he ever shot 33% from 3 in the nba with his current mechanics and shot selection.

I don’t have a perfect comparison for him, but there’s a lot of Evan turner and jimmy butler before he developed ball skills in culver. Not sure how he progresses, but I don’t see him ever being a primary or secondary creator in the nba and definitely not approaching an all star caliber player.

[clyde21]

people are oddly hating on a player who's a consistent jumper away from being an elite prospect.

btw, last season he actually shot 38% from 3 on even more attempts per game, and he's at almost 70% at the line for his career. all signs point to him being a respectable shooter at the NBA level, which is all what he needs to be combined with the rest of his skill set offensively.

as for his performance the last two games, yea he should've played better, but was still able to contribute across the board despite not shooting well at all. don't put too much emphasis on this. last year's #1 overall pick was was shut down and bounced from the tournament in the first round, the previous #1 overall pick didn't even get close to making the tournament.

The issue is that his shot is completely jacked and needs to be thoroughly reworked, percentages are pretty meaningless at this point with his mechanics because that shot isn’t translating. His release is terrible and he has a weird hitchy action going on. He’s not MKG level in that regard, but I’d be absolutely floored if he ever shot 33% from 3 in the nba with his current mechanics and shot selection.

I don’t have a perfect comparison for him, but there’s a lot of Evan turner and jimmy butler before he developed ball skills in culver. Not sure how he progresses, but I don’t see him ever being a primary or secondary creator in the nba and definitely not approaching an all star caliber player.

percentages are not meaningless at all, in fact I'd argue the opposite: the fact that his percentages and more or less respectable despite the awkward mechanics is actually a positive because it speaks to his potential if he can fix it. Even if he doesn't, he's not MKG in that people won't leave him open in the NBA. You'll have to put a body on him regardless, and IMO that's all he needs to be able to leverage his other skills offensively.

[HeadtopChunes]

people are oddly hating on a player who's a consistent jumper away from being an elite prospect.

btw, last season he actually shot 38% from 3 on even more attempts per game, and he's at almost 70% at the line for his career. all signs point to him being a respectable shooter at the NBA level, which is all what he needs to be combined with the rest of his skill set offensively.

as for his performance the last two games, yea he should've played better, but was still able to contribute across the board despite not shooting well at all. don't put too much emphasis on this. last year's #1 overall pick was was shut down and bounced from the tournament in the first round, the previous #1 overall pick didn't even get close to making the tournament.

The issue is that his shot is completely jacked and needs to be thoroughly reworked, percentages are pretty meaningless at this point with his mechanics because that shot isn’t translating. His release is terrible and he has a weird hitchy action going on. He’s not MKG level in that regard, but I’d be absolutely floored if he ever shot 33% from 3 in the nba with his current mechanics and shot selection.

I don’t have a perfect comparison for him, but there’s a lot of Evan turner and jimmy butler before he developed ball skills in culver. Not sure how he progresses, but I don’t see him ever being a primary or secondary creator in the nba and definitely not approaching an all star caliber player.

percentages are not meaningless at all, in fact I'd argue the opposite: the fact that his percentages and more or less respectable despite the awkward mechanics is actually a positive because it speaks to his potential if he can fix it. Even if he doesn't, he's not MKG in that people won't leave him open in the NBA. You'll have to put a body on him regardless, and IMO that's all he needs to be able to leverage his other skills offensively.

Well if we look at just percentages , I dont see how a career 34% shooter from the college 3, is respectable enough to be gaurded at the NBA line.

[Illmatic12]

Culver is Evan Turner in the NBA

Yeah I'm not a fan of that comparison, because Turner was a bust for the most part, and Culver has a much higher floor than that.

Also Turner wasn't THAT far off from becoming a fringe All-Star level player . His ballhandling and ability to use his size have translated over to the next level. His issues in the NBA are:

1) defiant refusal to shoot threes
2) ball stopper, didn't have the IQ to play within an offense
3) lazy defender

I think Culver could be like Turner but without those major flaws, which would make him closer to a Batum-tier of player than ET

[clyde21]

The issue is that his shot is completely jacked and needs to be thoroughly reworked, percentages are pretty meaningless at this point with his mechanics because that shot isn’t translating. His release is terrible and he has a weird hitchy action going on. He’s not MKG level in that regard, but I’d be absolutely floored if he ever shot 33% from 3 in the nba with his current mechanics and shot selection.

I don’t have a perfect comparison for him, but there’s a lot of Evan turner and jimmy butler before he developed ball skills in culver. Not sure how he progresses, but I don’t see him ever being a primary or secondary creator in the nba and definitely not approaching an all star caliber player.

percentages are not meaningless at all, in fact I'd argue the opposite: the fact that his percentages and more or less respectable despite the awkward mechanics is actually a positive because it speaks to his potential if he can fix it. Even if he doesn't, he's not MKG in that people won't leave him open in the NBA. You'll have to put a body on him regardless, and IMO that's all he needs to be able to leverage his other skills offensively.

Well if we look at just percentages , I dont see how a career 34% shooter from the college 3, is respectable enough to be gaurded at the NBA line.

34% at over 4 attempts per game at the collegiate level is definitely passable.

[HeadtopChunes]

percentages are not meaningless at all, in fact I'd argue the opposite: the fact that his percentages and more or less respectable despite the awkward mechanics is actually a positive because it speaks to his potential if he can fix it. Even if he doesn't, he's not MKG in that people won't leave him open in the NBA. You'll have to put a body on him regardless, and IMO that's all he needs to be able to leverage his other skills offensively.

Well if we look at just percentages , I dont see how a career 34% shooter from the college 3, is respectable enough to be gaurded at the NBA line.

34% at over 4 attempts per game at the collegiate level is definitely passable.

It's passable for college defense, but I'm am specifically talking about the NBA. Where teams don't guard better shooters than that at the 3pt line.

Teams won't respect his shot until he shows he can make them.

But i think he will end up a better shooter than Evan Turner which i don't think is a good comp at all really.

[mattg]

people are oddly hating on a player who's a consistent jumper away from being an elite prospect.

btw, last season he actually shot 38% from 3 on even more attempts per game, and he's at almost 70% at the line for his career. all signs point to him being a respectable shooter at the NBA level, which is all what he needs to be combined with the rest of his skill set offensively.

as for his performance the last two games, yea he should've played better, but was still able to contribute across the board despite not shooting well at all. don't put too much emphasis on this. last year's #1 overall pick was was shut down and bounced from the tournament in the first round, the previous #1 overall pick didn't even get close to making the tournament.

The issue is that his shot is completely jacked and needs to be thoroughly reworked, percentages are pretty meaningless at this point with his mechanics because that shot isn’t translating. His release is terrible and he has a weird hitchy action going on. He’s not MKG level in that regard, but I’d be absolutely floored if he ever shot 33% from 3 in the nba with his current mechanics and shot selection.

I don’t have a perfect comparison for him, but there’s a lot of Evan turner and jimmy butler before he developed ball skills in culver. Not sure how he progresses, but I don’t see him ever being a primary or secondary creator in the nba and definitely not approaching an all star caliber player.

percentages are not meaningless at all, in fact I'd argue the opposite: the fact that his percentages and more or less respectable despite the awkward mechanics is actually a positive because it speaks to his potential if he can fix it. Even if he doesn't, he's not MKG in that people won't leave him open in the NBA. You'll have to put a body on him regardless, and IMO that's all he needs to be able to leverage his other skills offensively.

Ehh that’s a very dangerous way to look at upside. When I view his mechanics, I see his percentages as overselling his shooting ability. His release is ungodly slow and he holds it at the top of his jump and might even start coming back down before finally releasing the ball. My view is that without a complete rework, you’re looking at a ceiling of sub par shooter with him.

[Roddy B for 3]

Well if we look at just percentages , I dont see how a career 34% shooter from the college 3, is respectable enough to be gaurded at the NBA line.

34% at over 4 attempts per game at the collegiate level is definitely passable.

It's passable for college defense, but I'm am specifically talking about the NBA. Where teams don't guard better shooters than that at the 3pt line.

Teams won't respect his shot until he shows he can make them.

But i think he will end up a better shooter than Evan Turner which i don't think is a good comp at all really.

He's going to be wide open when we shoots in the NBA. This year he took alot of threes of the dribble with entire game plans stacked against him and still lead his team to OT in the championship game.

[Duke4life831]

34% at over 4 attempts per game at the collegiate level is definitely passable.

It's passable for college defense, but I'm am specifically talking about the NBA. Where teams don't guard better shooters than that at the 3pt line.

Teams won't respect his shot until he shows he can make them.

But i think he will end up a better shooter than Evan Turner which i don't think is a good comp at all really.

He's going to be wide open when we shoots in the NBA. This year he took alot of threes of the dribble with entire game plans stacked against him and still lead his team to OT in the championship game.

Why is he going to be wide open in the NBA? He doesn't possess a good first step. Defenders won't be afraid if they play up on him that he could just blow by them. The second he shows he can knock down an open jumper with some consistency, where will his offense come from?

Don't get me wrong, I don't think Culver is a bad prospect. I think he is a fine prospect, I've always gone with he's the 95 cent version of Levert. I think he can be a fine starter or solid rotation player off the bench. I just don't see how you said he had an incredible game last night, and now he's going to be getting wide open shots in the NBA.

[Roddy B for 3]

[quote="Duke4life831"][quote="Roddy B for 3"][quote="HeadtopChunes"]

It's passable for college defense, but I'm am specifically talking about the NBA. Where teams don't guard better shooters than that at the 3pt line.

Teams won't respect his shot until he shows he can make them.

But i think he will end up a better shooter than Evan Turner which i don't think is a good comp at all really.[/quote]

He's going to be wide open when we shoots in the NBA. This year he took alot of threes of the dribble with entire game plans stacked against him and still lead his team to OT in the championship game.[/quote]

Why is he going to be wide open in the NBA? He doesn't possess a good first step. Defenders won't be afraid if they play up on him that he could just blow by them. The second he shows he can knock down an open jumper with some consistency, where will his offense come from?

Don't get me wrong, I don't think Culver is a bad prospect. I think he is a fine prospect, I've always gone with he's the 95 cent version of Levert. I think he can be a fine starter or solid rotation player off the bench. I just don't see how you said he had an incredible game last night, and now he's going to be getting wide open shots in the NBA.[/quote]

He won't be seen as much as a threat to NBA defenses comapred to how college teams gameplan against him.

People like, Harden, Derozen, Stanley Johnson, Luka Doncic, Bruno Caboclo get caught ball watching every game and the guy they are covering gets open threes as a result.

That list is just 5 wing starters (the position Culver plays) in the Southwest division.

I don't want to make a list of all the NBA players who ball watch and the guy they are covering gets open threes as a result, but their are alot of them.

In the playoffs he would likely get covered intelligently and in clutch 4th quarter situations he will likely get covered intelligently. But as a high lottory pick he won't have to deal with much of either of those situation for awhile likley.

[Duke4life831]

He's going to be wide open when we shoots in the NBA. This year he took alot of threes of the dribble with entire game plans stacked against him and still lead his team to OT in the championship game.

Why is he going to be wide open in the NBA? He doesn't possess a good first step. Defenders won't be afraid if they play up on him that he could just blow by them. The second he shows he can knock down an open jumper with some consistency, where will his offense come from?

Don't get me wrong, I don't think Culver is a bad prospect. I think he is a fine prospect, I've always gone with he's the 95 cent version of Levert. I think he can be a fine starter or solid rotation player off the bench. I just don't see how you said he had an incredible game last night, and now he's going to be getting wide open shots in the NBA.

He won't be seen as much as a threat to NBA defenses comapred to how college teams gameplan against him.

People like, Harden, Derozen, Stanley Johnson, Luka Doncic, Bruno Caboclo get caught ball watching every game and the guy they are covering gets open threes as a result.

That list is just 5 wing starters (the position Culver plays) in the Southwest division.

I don't want to make a list of all the NBA players who ball watch and the guy they are covering gets open threes as a result, but their are alot of them.

In the playoffs he would likely get covered intelligently and in clutch 4th quarter situations he will likely get covered intelligently. But as a high lottory pick he won't have to deal with much of either of those situation for awhile likley.

Then why isn't every average shooter that comes into the league lighting it up from 3 then? How come Stanley Johnson went from a 37% 3pt shooter in college to a 29% 3pt shooter in the NBA? Brandon Ingram was a 40+ 3pt shooter in college, 33% on low attempts in the NBA.

Again don't get me wrong, Im not saying Culver can't improve as a shooter in his career. But this idea that he's going to live off of just his man ball watching and that is how he is going to get his shots is not a ringing endorsement for Culver.

[RipCity71252]

He doesn't have the same size and or level of flexibility or ranginess to his movement, but I could see a similar transition as a scorer for Culver that we've seen from Tatum.

I think he's a smart and hard working kid that if playing alongside a playmaker / attention drawer, we should see him trade out some of those pull 2's and 3's for more spot ups /close out attacks.

Shooting projection is shakier with Culver, but like him more as a passer out of those advantage situations.

[Coeur]

Wow once culver became a consensus 3-5 pick I knew there was no way for him to go but down, but this is wild.

I had him 8 or 9. Tourney including title game o my justified positive thoughts on him for me.


Isn’t he still the 2nd sg and before Reddish? Who are you really moving over him

[doordoor123]

people are oddly hating on a player who's a consistent jumper away from being an elite prospect.

btw, last season he actually shot 38% from 3 on even more attempts per game, and he's at almost 70% at the line for his career. all signs point to him being a respectable shooter at the NBA level, which is all what he needs to be combined with the rest of his skill set offensively.

as for his performance the last two games, yea he should've played better, but was still able to contribute across the board despite not shooting well at all. don't put too much emphasis on this. last year's #1 overall pick was was shut down and bounced from the tournament in the first round, the previous #1 overall pick didn't even get close to making the tournament.

Who says that? Read the comments slower, no one is saying he’s a jumpshot away from being an elite prospect. He has other problems than just his jumper. Last year’s number one pick was also on a team that shouldn’t have been in the tournament because he was paid 100,000 dollars to play for Arizona.

[Duke4life831]

people are oddly hating on a player who's a consistent jumper away from being an elite prospect.

btw, last season he actually shot 38% from 3 on even more attempts per game, and he's at almost 70% at the line for his career. all signs point to him being a respectable shooter at the NBA level, which is all what he needs to be combined with the rest of his skill set offensively.

as for his performance the last two games, yea he should've played better, but was still able to contribute across the board despite not shooting well at all. don't put too much emphasis on this. last year's #1 overall pick was was shut down and bounced from the tournament in the first round, the previous #1 overall pick didn't even get close to making the tournament.

My thing is I don't think he is a jumpshot away from being an elite prospect. I think his jumper is fine, I have major questions about his ceiling with it though because of the weird form and how slow it is. My biggest area of concern for him is I don't like his foot speed on offense at all. I think he is a smart crafty player, but man that first step is slow. I don't really see how he's going to get consistent separation in the NBA.I also think his passing has been overrated as well. I think he is a solid passer but I don't see that being a huge weapon for him.

I think he is a slower Caris LeVert. I think he is just a solid all around player. I can see him being a 12/4/2 solid glue player on a team. I like his defense and his IQ (even though I think the moment last night got to him). I think he is a safe pick.

[doordoor123]

Wow once culver became a consensus 3-5 pick I knew there was no way for him to go but down, but this is wild.

I had him 8 or 9. Tourney including title game o my justified positive thoughts on him for me.


Isn’t he still the 2nd sg and before Reddish? Who are you really moving over him

Kevin Porter Jr and Romeo Langford I personally have over him, but no one else. I still think he’s a solid player, but nowhere near as good as everyone is making him seem as a prospect.

[JustCame]

people are oddly hating on a player who's a consistent jumper away from being an elite prospect.

btw, last season he actually shot 38% from 3 on even more attempts per game, and he's at almost 70% at the line for his career. all signs point to him being a respectable shooter at the NBA level, which is all what he needs to be combined with the rest of his skill set offensively.

as for his performance the last two games, yea he should've played better, but was still able to contribute across the board despite not shooting well at all. don't put too much emphasis on this. last year's #1 overall pick was was shut down and bounced from the tournament in the first round, the previous #1 overall pick didn't even get close to making the tournament.

My thing is I don't think he is a jumpshot away from being an elite prospect. I think his jumper is fine, I have major questions about his ceiling with it though because of the weird form and how slow it is. My biggest area of concern for him is I don't like his foot speed on offense at all. I think he is a smart crafty player, but man that first step is slow. I don't really see how he's going to get consistent separation in the NBA.I also think his passing has been overrated as well. I think he is a solid passer but I don't see that being a huge weapon for him.

I think he is a slower Caris LeVert. I think he is just a solid all around player. I can see him being a 12/4/2 solid glue player on a team. I like his defense and his IQ (even though I think the moment last night got to him). I think he is a safe pick.

I can see a stat line like that in his first year, with plenty of room to grow. He's an intelligent young man with size and skill. High floor, respectable ceiling type of prospect.

[clyde21]

people are oddly hating on a player who's a consistent jumper away from being an elite prospect.

btw, last season he actually shot 38% from 3 on even more attempts per game, and he's at almost 70% at the line for his career. all signs point to him being a respectable shooter at the NBA level, which is all what he needs to be combined with the rest of his skill set offensively.

as for his performance the last two games, yea he should've played better, but was still able to contribute across the board despite not shooting well at all. don't put too much emphasis on this. last year's #1 overall pick was was shut down and bounced from the tournament in the first round, the previous #1 overall pick didn't even get close to making the tournament.

My thing is I don't think he is a jumpshot away from being an elite prospect. I think his jumper is fine, I have major questions about his ceiling with it though because of the weird form and how slow it is. My biggest area of concern for him is I don't like his foot speed on offense at all. I think he is a smart crafty player, but man that first step is slow. I don't really see how he's going to get consistent separation in the NBA.I also think his passing has been overrated as well. I think he is a solid passer but I don't see that being a huge weapon for him.

I think he is a slower Caris LeVert. I think he is just a solid all around player. I can see him being a 12/4/2 solid glue player on a team. I like his defense and his IQ (even though I think the moment last night got to him). I think he is a safe pick.

Well, he's an above average playmaker and rebounder for an wing, and while he's not a natural scorer, he still knows how to put points on the board in variety of ways. Defensively he projects to be a 2-position guy which is important in today's NBA, and has shown to be able to hit the NBA 3 at a decent level.

I don't think he has MVP potential or anything like that, but I think 12/4/2 is quite underselling him as well.