All Things Vladdy: Debuting Friday the 26th

polo007 · Post #81 » by **polo007** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:28 am

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Fenris-77 · Post #82 » by **Fenris-77** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:22 am

Yay! This one small data point validates every opinion I have. Wait...

polo007 · Post #83 » by **polo007** » Sat Apr 13, 2019 4:37 am

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In conversation with Toronto media Friday, GM Ross Atkins offered some direction regarding the timeline for baseball’s top-rated prospect. Guerrero Jr.’s big-league debut isn’t imminent by any stretch, but when the Blue Jays begin their next homestand on April 23, Guerrero Jr. may well be in the lineup.

“It’s sooner than later,” Atkins said. “For a player that has played as much as he has, as much success as he’s had, now it’s about getting built up and getting into really just regular season form and being hopefully ready to make a debut at some point soon.”

How soon is soon? As ever, there are many factors to consider when it comes to a prospect of this calibre. Among the considerations for the Blue Jays decision makers: Guerrero Jr.’s timing at the plate, his defensive play and his habits before and after games.

First, Guerrero Jr. simply needs at bats. After a four-game stint with the Class A Dunedin Blue Jays, the 20-year-old returned to triple-A Thursday with a home run, a double and a walk. Still, he missed considerable time after suffering an oblique strain in spring training.

As manager Charlie Montoyo said, “It’s not fair for him to just get 20 at bats and then come hit in the big-leagues.”

On defence, the Blue Jays like their third basemen playing far off the third base line, so Montoyo asked Bobby Meacham, his triple-A counterpart, to ensure Guerrero Jr. positions himself accordingly.

“If he’s playing well defensively and he’s swinging the bat for 20, 30 at bats, whatever it is, then Bobby’s going to let us know,” Montoyo said.

There’s also the question of workload considering that Guerrero Jr. has yet to play on three consecutive days. He’ll likely rest at some point this weekend, after which he’ll play three in a row to see how he recovers. When he does arrive in Toronto, Atkins wants to be sure “there are no limitations whatsoever on his playing time.”

Guerrero Jr. has slimmed down a little since spring training, and now weighs closer to 240 pounds than his listed weight of 250. While the Blue Jays say his weight isn’t a concern for a player with such a large frame, this trimmer physique might help his lateral movement. Regardless, Atkins says Guerrero Jr. has ‘drastically’ improved his off-field routines in recent months.

The_Hater · Post #84 » by **The_Hater** » Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:26 pm

Some of these media updates on Vlade make me laugh. We could all pretty much pinpoint the exact date he’s going to be called up as far back as 12 months ago, it’s not a secret to anyone.

Fairview4Life · Post #85 » by **Fairview4Life** » Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:29 pm

The_Hater wrote:Some of these media updates on Vlade make me laugh. We could all pretty much pinpoint the exact date he’s going to be called up as far back as 12 months ago, it’s not a secret to anyone.

I think we should all be glad that Shatkins is prioritizing defence, the element of baseball proven to win championships.

GoRapstheoriginal · Post #86 » by **GoRapstheoriginal** » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:25 pm

Fairview4Life wrote:
The_Hater wrote:Some of these media updates on Vlade make me laugh. We could all pretty much pinpoint the exact date he’s going to be called up as far back as 12 months ago, it’s not a secret to anyone.

I think we should all be glad that Shatkins is prioritizing defence, the element of baseball proven to win championships.

Concur. (I think your being serious but not sure if sarcastic or not).

Fairview4Life · Post #87 » by **Fairview4Life** » Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:59 pm

GoRapstheoriginal wrote:
Fairview4Life wrote:
The_Hater wrote:Some of these media updates on Vlade make me laugh. We could all pretty much pinpoint the exact date he’s going to be called up as far back as 12 months ago, it’s not a secret to anyone.

I think we should all be glad that Shatkins is prioritizing defence, the element of baseball proven to win championships.

Concur. (I think your being serious but not sure if sarcastic or not).

Lol, I was not being serious. I was making fun of ratul

So_Fresh · Post #88 » by **So_Fresh** » Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:09 pm

Another 2 hits today. This kid is ready! Can't take anymore of Drury at 3rd base.

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duppyy · Post #89 » by **duppyy** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:53 pm

My body is ready.

Brinbe · Post #90 » by **Brinbe** » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:00 pm

Got tix to the April 23rd game. I think that's his first game. Or at least his home debut.

BigLeagueChew · Post #91 » by **BigLeagueChew** » Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:41 am

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sule · Post #92 » by **sule** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:25 am

BigLeagueChew wrote:

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Numbers are worse. We drafted a dud.

Al_Oliver · Post #93 » by **Al_Oliver** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:51 am

sule wrote:
BigLeagueChew wrote:

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Numbers are worse. We drafted a dud.

International free agent, he wasn't drafted...

Fairview4Life · Post #94 » by **Fairview4Life** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:52 pm

sule wrote:
BigLeagueChew wrote:

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Numbers are worse. We drafted a dud.

Those walks though.

Skin Blues · Post #95 » by **Skin Blues** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:44 pm

Not only has Vladito done that while being about 2 years younger than his father's comparable stats, but this is also interesting: he hit 6 HR at age 18 in Dunedin, while Daddy Vlad hit 4 HR in Dunedin at age 37 (in only 20 PA). I'm still salty we never got to see him even for a bit at the MLB level back then, even if he wasn't the same guy anymore.

BigLeagueChew · Post #96 » by **BigLeagueChew** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:40 pm

Yeah, technically a walk doesn't count as an AB so it took a little longer to reach the same AB's, unless they're counting PA's and wording it differently, but am too lazy to look it up.

Post #97 » by **Schad** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:05 pm

Even clearer sign that Vlad's a bust: took him a bunch more PAs to reach the same number of ABs as his pops.

torontoaces04 · Post #98 » by **torontoaces04** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:08 pm

Schad wrote:Even clearer sign that Vlad's a bust: took him a bunch more PAs to reach the same number of ABs as his pops.

polo007 · Post #99 » by **polo007** » Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:43 am

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vaff87 · Post #100 » by **vaff87** » Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:59 am

There’s something different about the way he hits the ball. It’s like dude is just casually swinging and then the ball just caroms off his bat like it was launched from a rocket.