OT: Avengers: Endgame

[dakomish23]

Yesterday was XMen day on social media for some reason. I’m not the biggest fan of all their cinematic stuff, but this is accurate. Top 10 all time comic book movie IMO, tied with Logan for best XMen movie ever.

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[NYKAL]

The movie was good, but there are a couple things that annoyed me.

Spoiler:

First, they need to stop making Thor a running joke. In Ragnarok I thought they already went over the top with the comedy aspect of it, but in Endgame they've gone way too far. I understand the need for a comical aspect but now every Thor appearance is straight up parody, Deadpool level. In the movie he's basically a drunk bum who doesn't even get to wield his own hammer. I like Thor as a character, hated seeing him dragged through the mud.

Next, I didn't like at all the Hulk version. I'm not sure how it goes in the comics but the half muscle/half brains is too far fetched for me. Also I assume that what people love about the Hulk is the raw power and you just want to see him destroy people/stuff, not a green nerd who does little more than type on a computer.

Lastly, and this is obviously a prerequisite these days, every Marvel movie has to have the compulsory gender equality sequence(s). So at some point there's always a scene where a woman manages to show off more power than all male heroes combined, and saves the day. It's so blatant it's just pathetic and annoying. If I was a woman, I'd almost be offended by the scene where all girls team up at once (only to fail miserably anyway), as it's so OBVIOUSLY designed to satisfy low level feminists like "see, we involve women too in our movies". A bit of a rant but it's really ridiculous to me.

Professor Hulk in the comic was a damn Beast. Beat the crap out of the Abomination who has always given the Hulk issues. His base level was just above regular Hulks but, he lost the ability to get stronger as his anger grew. He wasn't comic relief or comical at all.

ALSO, he Did NOT have Banners mind but, a mixture of Hulks personality AND Banners. This portray was a farce.

Also, they have YET to figure out how to portray Thor which, should be pretty damn easy. He's a brash, arrogant Norse God.....just add some Aggression and Testosterone. That should be THOR, not a guy with a dad-bod who's so emo he should be Thor90201.

[kane]

Professor Hulk reminds me to much of beast from the x-men

[NYKAL]

Professor Hulk reminds me to much of beast from the x-men

That is the Best take I've read or head yet.!!!

[Jadoogar]

The movie was good, but there are a couple things that annoyed me.

Spoiler:

First, they need to stop making Thor a running joke. In Ragnarok I thought they already went over the top with the comedy aspect of it, but in Endgame they've gone way too far. I understand the need for a comical aspect but now every Thor appearance is straight up parody, Deadpool level. In the movie he's basically a drunk bum who doesn't even get to wield his own hammer. I like Thor as a character, hated seeing him dragged through the mud.

Next, I didn't like at all the Hulk version. I'm not sure how it goes in the comics but the half muscle/half brains is too far fetched for me. Also I assume that what people love about the Hulk is the raw power and you just want to see him destroy people/stuff, not a green nerd who does little more than type on a computer.

Lastly, and this is obviously a prerequisite these days, every Marvel movie has to have the compulsory gender equality sequence(s). So at some point there's always a scene where a woman manages to show off more power than all male heroes combined, and saves the day. It's so blatant it's just pathetic and annoying. If I was a woman, I'd almost be offended by the scene where all girls team up at once (only to fail miserably anyway), as it's so OBVIOUSLY designed to satisfy low level feminists like "see, we involve women too in our movies". A bit of a rant but it's really ridiculous to me.

I hard disagree with the Thor take. To me he was the MVP of the film. Yes he has comedic scenes but his character is also clearly going to depression and PTSD. They used him perfectly imo.

[prophet_of_rage]

The movie was good, but there are a couple things that annoyed me.

Spoiler:

First, they need to stop making Thor a running joke. In Ragnarok I thought they already went over the top with the comedy aspect of it, but in Endgame they've gone way too far. I understand the need for a comical aspect but now every Thor appearance is straight up parody, Deadpool level. In the movie he's basically a drunk bum who doesn't even get to wield his own hammer. I like Thor as a character, hated seeing him dragged through the mud.

Next, I didn't like at all the Hulk version. I'm not sure how it goes in the comics but the half muscle/half brains is too far fetched for me. Also I assume that what people love about the Hulk is the raw power and you just want to see him destroy people/stuff, not a green nerd who does little more than type on a computer.

Lastly, and this is obviously a prerequisite these days, every Marvel movie has to have the compulsory gender equality sequence(s). So at some point there's always a scene where a woman manages to show off more power than all male heroes combined, and saves the day. It's so blatant it's just pathetic and annoying. If I was a woman, I'd almost be offended by the scene where all girls team up at once (only to fail miserably anyway), as it's so OBVIOUSLY designed to satisfy low level feminists like "see, we involve women too in our movies". A bit of a rant but it's really ridiculous to me.

Totally agree on all fronts!

Spoiler:

seriously, Thor alone could take on a gauntlet-less Thanos and hold his own, never mind with both hammers! Cap wielding the hammer, maybe I can give that a pass, but using the lightning?!? Hulk always sucks in movies. And the girl scene was forced.

Spoiler:

Exactly! I don't know what the deal is with Thor, it's almost like they belittle him on purpose. This is one of the most iconic and powerful Marvel characters, he deserves better. Cap using the lightning was just messed up. They basically gave Thor's abilities to Captain America for no reason.

Spoiler:

Whosoever wields this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor.

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[NYKnickerbocker]

There’s no way Thor should still be brash and arrogant. He’s been getting his ass kicked and losing everything important to him past couple of movies.

[Starks]

The movie was good, but there are a couple things that annoyed me.

Spoiler:

First, they need to stop making Thor a running joke. In Ragnarok I thought they already went over the top with the comedy aspect of it, but in Endgame they've gone way too far. I understand the need for a comical aspect but now every Thor appearance is straight up parody, Deadpool level. In the movie he's basically a drunk bum who doesn't even get to wield his own hammer. I like Thor as a character, hated seeing him dragged through the mud.

Next, I didn't like at all the Hulk version. I'm not sure how it goes in the comics but the half muscle/half brains is too far fetched for me. Also I assume that what people love about the Hulk is the raw power and you just want to see him destroy people/stuff, not a green nerd who does little more than type on a computer.

Lastly, and this is obviously a prerequisite these days, every Marvel movie has to have the compulsory gender equality sequence(s). So at some point there's always a scene where a woman manages to show off more power than all male heroes combined, and saves the day. It's so blatant it's just pathetic and annoying. If I was a woman, I'd almost be offended by the scene where all girls team up at once (only to fail miserably anyway), as it's so OBVIOUSLY designed to satisfy low level feminists like "see, we involve women too in our movies". A bit of a rant but it's really ridiculous to me.

I hard disagree with the Thor take. To me he was the MVP of the film. Yes he has comedic scenes but his character is also clearly going to depression and PTSD. They used him perfectly imo.

Spoiler:

I totally see where they're coming from, I just think they should've toned down the comedic vibe, maintain a little dignity to the character. You can have funny scenes/lines without going full parody.

[NYKAL]

There’s no way Thor should still be brash and arrogant. He’s been getting his ass kicked and losing everything important to him past couple of movies.

Thor is CENTURIES old. He has suffer losses, the supposed Death of Odin on multiple occasions, as well as others he's seen as family, friends and comrades He is too old to be broken by this, it would send him on a mission to annihilate whoever was responsible but, it WOULD NOT break him.

[King of Canada]

There’s no way Thor should still be brash and arrogant. He’s been getting his ass kicked and losing everything important to him past couple of movies.

Thor is CENTURIES old. He has suffer losses, the supposed Death of Odin on multiple occasions, as well as others he's seen as family, friends and comrades He is too old to be broken by this, it would send him on a mission to annihilate whoever was responsible but, it WOULD NOT break him.

For me the movies would have flopped if they took them too seriously. The comedic parts are what make the Marvel movies as good as they are. Look at how dry Loki is and imagine if Thor had been like that too?

[NYKnickerbocker]

There’s no way Thor should still be brash and arrogant. He’s been getting his ass kicked and losing everything important to him past couple of movies.

Thor is CENTURIES old. He has suffer losses, the supposed Death of Odin on multiple occasions, as well as others he's seen as family, friends and comrades He is too old to be broken by this, it would send him on a mission to annihilate whoever was responsible but, it WOULD NOT break him.

the big mans been through a lot tho lol. Watched his bro die twice, seconds too late to save his mother’s life, watched Thanos kill his best friend and half his people. Found out his father and sister where mass murdering tyrants before he came along. And almost killed by that sister lol. That same sister kills his closest comrades

But your right. He held together until he thought he accomplished his mission. Then he fell apart

[NYKAL]

There’s no way Thor should still be brash and arrogant. He’s been getting his ass kicked and losing everything important to him past couple of movies.

Thor is CENTURIES old. He has suffer losses, the supposed Death of Odin on multiple occasions, as well as others he's seen as family, friends and comrades He is too old to be broken by this, it would send him on a mission to annihilate whoever was responsible but, it WOULD NOT break him.

the big mans been through a lot tho lol. Watched his bro die twice, seconds too late to save his mother’s life, watched Thanos kill his best friend and half his people. Found out his father and sister where mass murdering tyrants before he came along. And almost killed by that sister lol. That same sister kills his closest comrades

But your right. He held together until he thought he accomplished his mission. Then he fell apart

War Gods and DO NOT react to Death is this manner. They died in battle, the HIGHEST honor a warrior could achieve and would have seats waiting for them in Valhala. If anything he would have been downing mugs of meade and singing songs of the Bravery and Deeds of the fallen.

[DOT]

Thor is CENTURIES old. He has suffer losses, the supposed Death of Odin on multiple occasions, as well as others he's seen as family, friends and comrades He is too old to be broken by this, it would send him on a mission to annihilate whoever was responsible but, it WOULD NOT break him.

the big mans been through a lot tho lol. Watched his bro die twice, seconds too late to save his mother’s life, watched Thanos kill his best friend and half his people. Found out his father and sister where mass murdering tyrants before he came along. And almost killed by that sister lol. That same sister kills his closest comrades

But your right. He held together until he thought he accomplished his mission. Then he fell apart

War Gods and DO NOT react to Death is this manner. They died in battle, the HIGHEST honor a warrior could achieve and would have seats waiting for them in Valhala. If anything he would have been downing mugs of meade and singing songs of the Bravery and Deeds of the fallen.

The thing that breaks him isn't the death, it's coming up against an enemy that he can't beat

In all his life, he's always been the strongest. Yeah there were times where he might be on the ropes, but he always came out on top. Then he loses to Thanos and he's fine. Bit shaken up because of how many of his family and friends died recently, but he knows what to do next, get a weapon and kill him. And he does, except he doesn't

For the first time in his life, he hits a guy, and he still loses. All the trillions of innocents that die fall on his shoulders. But he still doesn't break. He's cracked yeah, but he's not broken because again, he knows what to do. Hit the guy again until the problem fixes itself like it always does

So that's what he does. He finds the guy responsible, only to find out that there's no way to undo what's been done, so he does what he does best and kills the big bad. But it doesn't fix anything. That's what breaks him. Cause for the first time in thousands of years, he's met a problem that can't be handled, a bad guy that beat him not just once then lost the rematch, but thoroughly beat him, and caused the deaths of trillions of innocents who did not die in battle

Thor reacting that way makes total sense. I just would've preferred them have him fix himself at some point before the final battle, but it is what it is

[Fury]

the big mans been through a lot tho lol. Watched his bro die twice, seconds too late to save his mother’s life, watched Thanos kill his best friend and half his people. Found out his father and sister where mass murdering tyrants before he came along. And almost killed by that sister lol. That same sister kills his closest comrades

But your right. He held together until he thought he accomplished his mission. Then he fell apart

War Gods and DO NOT react to Death is this manner. They died in battle, the HIGHEST honor a warrior could achieve and would have seats waiting for them in Valhala. If anything he would have been downing mugs of meade and singing songs of the Bravery and Deeds of the fallen.

The thing that breaks him isn't the death, it's coming up against an enemy that he can't beat

In all his life, he's always been the strongest. Yeah there were times where he might be on the ropes, but he always came out on top. Then he loses to Thanos and he's fine. Bit shaken up because of how many of his family and friends died recently, but he knows what to do next, get a weapon and kill him. And he does, except he doesn't

For the first time in his life, he hits a guy, and he still loses. All the trillions of innocents that die fall on his shoulders. But he still doesn't break. He's cracked yeah, but he's not broken because again, he knows what to do. Hit the guy again until the problem fixes itself like it always does

So that's what he does. He finds the guy responsible, only to find out that there's no way to undo what's been done, so he does what he does best and kills the big bad. But it doesn't fix anything. That's what breaks him. Cause for the first time in thousands of years, he's met a problem that can't be handled, a bad guy that beat him not just once then lost the rematch, but thoroughly beat him, and caused the deaths of trillions of innocents who did not die in battle

Thor reacting that way makes total sense. I just would've preferred them have him fix himself at some point before the final battle, but it is what it is

Excellent analysis

[NYKAL]

the big mans been through a lot tho lol. Watched his bro die twice, seconds too late to save his mother’s life, watched Thanos kill his best friend and half his people. Found out his father and sister where mass murdering tyrants before he came along. And almost killed by that sister lol. That same sister kills his closest comrades

But your right. He held together until he thought he accomplished his mission. Then he fell apart

War Gods and DO NOT react to Death is this manner. They died in battle, the HIGHEST honor a warrior could achieve and would have seats waiting for them in Valhala. If anything he would have been downing mugs of meade and singing songs of the Bravery and Deeds of the fallen.

The thing that breaks him isn't the death, it's coming up against an enemy that he can't beat

In all his life, he's always been the strongest. Yeah there were times where he might be on the ropes, but he always came out on top. Then he loses to Thanos and he's fine. Bit shaken up because of how many of his family and friends died recently, but he knows what to do next, get a weapon and kill him. And he does, except he doesn't

For the first time in his life, he hits a guy, and he still loses. All the trillions of innocents that die fall on his shoulders. But he still doesn't break. He's cracked yeah, but he's not broken because again, he knows what to do. Hit the guy again until the problem fixes itself like it always does

So that's what he does. He finds the guy responsible, only to find out that there's no way to undo what's been done, so he does what he does best and kills the big bad. But it doesn't fix anything. That's what breaks him. Cause for the first time in thousands of years, he's met a problem that can't be handled, a bad guy that beat him not just once then lost the rematch, but thoroughly beat him, and caused the deaths of trillions of innocents who did not die in battle

Thor reacting that way makes total sense. I just would've preferred them have him fix himself at some point before the final battle, but it is what it is

this isn't true either. I have damn near every Thor comic since 84 so I know. Magog used to show up and Odin and all of Asguard would **** their pants, there was Kurse, and a host of others Plus, THANOS beat his ass multiple times over a decade ago in the comics when Thor was hanging out in space with Moondragon and Drax the Destroyer. He's had his ass handed to him and been damn near beaten to death on a couple of occasions. But, Regardless, DYING IN BATTLE was the highest honor and he would not have been broken by their deaths. Also having you FATHER supposedly die on multiple occasions didn't even faze him. This was just a poor choice for Marvel. They are doing what everyone else is doing, emasculating anything that resembles strong masculinity. Media won't be happy until only women can kick ass and be strong mentally as well.

[DOT]

War Gods and DO NOT react to Death is this manner. They died in battle, the HIGHEST honor a warrior could achieve and would have seats waiting for them in Valhala. If anything he would have been downing mugs of meade and singing songs of the Bravery and Deeds of the fallen.

The thing that breaks him isn't the death, it's coming up against an enemy that he can't beat

In all his life, he's always been the strongest. Yeah there were times where he might be on the ropes, but he always came out on top. Then he loses to Thanos and he's fine. Bit shaken up because of how many of his family and friends died recently, but he knows what to do next, get a weapon and kill him. And he does, except he doesn't

For the first time in his life, he hits a guy, and he still loses. All the trillions of innocents that die fall on his shoulders. But he still doesn't break. He's cracked yeah, but he's not broken because again, he knows what to do. Hit the guy again until the problem fixes itself like it always does

So that's what he does. He finds the guy responsible, only to find out that there's no way to undo what's been done, so he does what he does best and kills the big bad. But it doesn't fix anything. That's what breaks him. Cause for the first time in thousands of years, he's met a problem that can't be handled, a bad guy that beat him not just once then lost the rematch, but thoroughly beat him, and caused the deaths of trillions of innocents who did not die in battle

Thor reacting that way makes total sense. I just would've preferred them have him fix himself at some point before the final battle, but it is what it is

this isn't true either. I have damn near every Thor comic since 84 so I know. Magog used to show up and Odin and all of Asguard would **** their pants, there was Kurse, and a host of others Plus, THANOS beat his ass multiple times over a decade ago in the comics when Thor was hanging out in space with Moondragon and Drax the Destroyer. He's had his ass handed to him and been damn near beaten to death on a couple of occasions. But, Regardless, DYING IN BATTLE was the highest honor and he would not have been broken by their deaths. Also having you FATHER supposedly die on multiple occasions didn't even faze him. This was just a poor choice for Marvel. They are doing what everyone else is doing, emasculating anything that resembles strong masculinity. Media won't be happy until only women can kick ass and be strong mentally as well.

And that's the problem is, you're using the comics as canon instead of just reference points. The MCU exists outside of the comics, it's pretty much entirely different. MCU Thor is different from comics Thor, MCU Thanos is different from comic Thanos, etc

And that last part is just utter bullsh*t. I ain't even gonna argue that cause if you really think that way, then nothing's gonna change your mind

[NYKAL]

The thing that breaks him isn't the death, it's coming up against an enemy that he can't beat

In all his life, he's always been the strongest. Yeah there were times where he might be on the ropes, but he always came out on top. Then he loses to Thanos and he's fine. Bit shaken up because of how many of his family and friends died recently, but he knows what to do next, get a weapon and kill him. And he does, except he doesn't

For the first time in his life, he hits a guy, and he still loses. All the trillions of innocents that die fall on his shoulders. But he still doesn't break. He's cracked yeah, but he's not broken because again, he knows what to do. Hit the guy again until the problem fixes itself like it always does

So that's what he does. He finds the guy responsible, only to find out that there's no way to undo what's been done, so he does what he does best and kills the big bad. But it doesn't fix anything. That's what breaks him. Cause for the first time in thousands of years, he's met a problem that can't be handled, a bad guy that beat him not just once then lost the rematch, but thoroughly beat him, and caused the deaths of trillions of innocents who did not die in battle

Thor reacting that way makes total sense. I just would've preferred them have him fix himself at some point before the final battle, but it is what it is

this isn't true either. I have damn near every Thor comic since 84 so I know. Magog used to show up and Odin and all of Asguard would **** their pants, there was Kurse, and a host of others Plus, THANOS beat his ass multiple times over a decade ago in the comics when Thor was hanging out in space with Moondragon and Drax the Destroyer. He's had his ass handed to him and been damn near beaten to death on a couple of occasions. But, Regardless, DYING IN BATTLE was the highest honor and he would not have been broken by their deaths. Also having you FATHER supposedly die on multiple occasions didn't even faze him. This was just a poor choice for Marvel. They are doing what everyone else is doing, emasculating anything that resembles strong masculinity. Media won't be happy until only women can kick ass and be strong mentally as well.

And that's the problem is, you're using the comics as canon instead of just reference points. The MCU exists outside of the comics, it's pretty much entirely different. MCU Thor is different from comics Thor, MCU Thanos is different from comic Thanos, etc

And that last part is just utter bullsh*t. I ain't even gonna argue that cause if you really think that way, then nothing's gonna change your mind

Disagree if you want no need to call my opinion or outlook bull. Good day sir.

[DOT]

this isn't true either. I have damn near every Thor comic since 84 so I know. Magog used to show up and Odin and all of Asguard would **** their pants, there was Kurse, and a host of others Plus, THANOS beat his ass multiple times over a decade ago in the comics when Thor was hanging out in space with Moondragon and Drax the Destroyer. He's had his ass handed to him and been damn near beaten to death on a couple of occasions. But, Regardless, DYING IN BATTLE was the highest honor and he would not have been broken by their deaths. Also having you FATHER supposedly die on multiple occasions didn't even faze him. This was just a poor choice for Marvel. They are doing what everyone else is doing, emasculating anything that resembles strong masculinity. Media won't be happy until only women can kick ass and be strong mentally as well.

And that's the problem is, you're using the comics as canon instead of just reference points. The MCU exists outside of the comics, it's pretty much entirely different. MCU Thor is different from comics Thor, MCU Thanos is different from comic Thanos, etc

And that last part is just utter bullsh*t. I ain't even gonna argue that cause if you really think that way, then nothing's gonna change your mind

Disagree if you want no need to call my opinion or outlook bull. Good day sir.

I'll call bullsh*t bullsh*t when I see it

That's not an opinion you can disagree on, that's a statement of fact which is untrue and therefore bullsh*t

[dakomish23]

Spoiler:

In every movie, they had multiple large fight scenes throughout then a huge multi layered battle at the end. This was just the one big battle at the end.

That’s the most disappointing.

[prophet_of_rage]

Or they were

War Gods and DO NOT react to Death is this manner. They died in battle, the HIGHEST honor a warrior could achieve and would have seats waiting for them in Valhala. If anything he would have been downing mugs of meade and singing songs of the Bravery and Deeds of the fallen.

The thing that breaks him isn't the death, it's coming up against an enemy that he can't beat

In all his life, he's always been the strongest. Yeah there were times where he might be on the ropes, but he always came out on top. Then he loses to Thanos and he's fine. Bit shaken up because of how many of his family and friends died recently, but he knows what to do next, get a weapon and kill him. And he does, except he doesn't

For the first time in his life, he hits a guy, and he still loses. All the trillions of innocents that die fall on his shoulders. But he still doesn't break. He's cracked yeah, but he's not broken because again, he knows what to do. Hit the guy again until the problem fixes itself like it always does

So that's what he does. He finds the guy responsible, only to find out that there's no way to undo what's been done, so he does what he does best and kills the big bad. But it doesn't fix anything. That's what breaks him. Cause for the first time in thousands of years, he's met a problem that can't be handled, a bad guy that beat him not just once then lost the rematch, but thoroughly beat him, and caused the deaths of trillions of innocents who did not die in battle

Thor reacting that way makes total sense. I just would've preferred them have him fix himself at some point before the final battle, but it is what it is

this isn't true either. I have damn near every Thor comic since 84 so I know. Magog used to show up and Odin and all of Asguard would **** their pants, there was Kurse, and a host of others Plus, THANOS beat his ass multiple times over a decade ago in the comics when Thor was hanging out in space with Moondragon and Drax the Destroyer. He's had his ass handed to him and been damn near beaten to death on a couple of occasions. But, Regardless, DYING IN BATTLE was the highest honor and he would not have been broken by their deaths. Also having you FATHER supposedly die on multiple occasions didn't even faze him. This was just a poor choice for Marvel. They are doing what everyone else is doing, emasculating anything that resembles strong masculinity. Media won't be happy until only women can kick ass and be strong mentally as well.

Or they were making a character interesting an accessible and worthwhile for an actor previously bored by the part to continue.

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