Free agency and trade ideas: Which wings do we go after this summer?

[BobbieL]

If Memphis draft Ja, instead of helping them with the Conley we should go after Delon Wright. He was one of my biggest pg candidate last off season before he got traded to Memphis and he was pretty decent with them as a starter.

I also believe that a pg is our biggest need right now but in the current NBA you can find a lot of guy to fill that position but on the other hand our second biggest problem in the roster is lack of stud pf who can defend and shoot which is way more valuable in the NBA right now. We desperately need a player like that next to Ayton or we will never get the most out of Ayton.

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Yeah I've been thinking wright might be a good under the radar target this summer.

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This is where the Suns are at - and maybe I am wrong - but with the current cap situation, the amount of money teams have - I don't think I am going out on a limb that the Suns - for one of the two real needs, PG and PF - if both addressed in FA - one of the two will have to be a somewhat under the radar move, meaning lower cost too.

[Wilber85]

Heat interested in Conley

Let’s get Dragic back here !!!!!!

Drafted Garland

Dragic Garland backcourt

[Slim Charless]

Saw on a Grizzlies board they are fine with trading Conley for Warren. Also hoping they can steal the 6th pick if the Suns are dumb enough to use it instead. It's OK if the team upgrades the veterans or signs such in free agency. Not so much if this is done in expense of the future by giving up a lottery pick. It made more sense in Sarver's early years when the team was good, and he has always been criticized for that.

I wouldn't give up the 6th pick. I would at most give up a package of Warren/ Johnson's expiring/ a Phoenix top 8 lottery protected first/ and the Milwaukee pick.

The Grizz are of course going to ask for that pick, because they are looking to offset the pick that they gave up to Boston in the Jeff Green trade.

But that package, is far and away the best offer that they're likely to see for Conley, due mainly to the factors that some are arguing against Conley for.

Having said that, I think that the package of Warren/Johnson's expiring/ and the Milwaukee pick. Is more than fair value. If it happens cool, if they want more than that, we can find other options as well.

If Kyrie leaves Boston will need a PG, I can see them being the ones to trade for Conley. They trade Hayward and Memphis back their own pick-would make sense for both teams.

As far as we're concerned maybe we can grab Lowry. If they lose Kawhi they'll be in rebuild mode and will have no need for him. He won't cost much in a trade and will only be a 1 yr rental but can still add veteran leadership.

[Saberestar]

The huge difference is that Nash joined the Suns in free agency. Steve wanted to play in Phoenix. Mike Conley all but tweeted "I don't wanna be here" (in his case "here" means "all non-contending teams"). I'm sure he would be ecstatic to play with a bunch of kids on our 19-win team. You are delusional, if you think that Conley wouldn't ask for a trade again instantly.

BTW, the age gap between Nash and the rest of the team was substantially smaller than it would be between Conley and the 2019 Suns core (on average 6 years vs 9 years).

I think that our roster is gonna change a lot before the start of the season.

I think that we are done with young rosters.
The only players that are gonna be on the team for sure are Booker and Ayton.

In the last few interviews when James Jones talks about the team he just mentions Book and Ayton, so other than these two every player can be traded or waived.

I think that Bender, Jackson, Melton, King, Spalding and Okobo would be out. They probably are gonna be replaced by veteran players in their prime or past their prime.

Players who just get minimun contracts but are not rookies or second year players.

We will see, but our team can be a veteran team next year (or at least not young) and with Monty Williams on board I would not be surprised if someone like Conley or Lowry would like to play for us.

So what you are saying that the hiring of people from the best development schools mean that we are going to give up on young players? you are kidding yourself.

We fired every assistant, so we are gonna hire assistants and development coaches like every other team in the league.

Do you think that the Warriors or any other veteran team do not have good assistants and development coachs just because they are a veteran team and they do not have too many young players?

James Jones has said so many times that they want more NBA players and less prospects. It makes sense because having a young team and trying to improve through the draft has been an epic fail.

We are gonna have young players on the roster next season, for sure, but less than in the last few years.

[Fo-Real]

I think Diallo can be the Pf we play next to Ayton if we have a good point guard!!

..Why?

Because he is young, athletic, LONG, has decent basketball smarts, plays hard, is a shot blocker/rebounder, can play small ball 5 and seems eager to improve. Just to name a few.... also may be available.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Johnson, Jackson and the Bucks pick is a total no brainer for Mike Conley - IF he wants to play in Phoenix. Granted, the Jazz would probably like Conley. I have read the Pacers might like Conley too. But if the above is all it takes and there are not other options - for sure thats a good deal.

The Raptors season might be ending soon - Lowry could be available but its a one year deal so what are you giving up - Tyler and Jackson maybe Okobo or Melton too.

I think a guy like Conley - yes expensive - but if willing to play here - would help the team start learning how to play basketball at a better level. Which should be the goal

You can make that trade in July. That's the key. I think Conley improves the Suns but its not my favorite move with those assets. I'm fine if that's where it ends up but I would prefer they pursued other options first.

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I agree. Nothing has to be done at 9pm ET on June 30 or whenever they put the starting time. Plus, there can be discussions today about things since many teams are preparing for the draft and what not. So between these discussions, talks with agents, etc - the Suns should have a good idea of there plan to upgrade the roster by draft time. No need to rush anything.

I think the only move that would need to be made between now and June 30 is a potential JR Smith trade so he is waived before the new fiscal season opens.

How much is the cost to waive him again man?........Just strategizing as always....lol

[BobbieL]

You can make that trade in July. That's the key. I think Conley improves the Suns but its not my favorite move with those assets. I'm fine if that's where it ends up but I would prefer they pursued other options first.

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I agree. Nothing has to be done at 9pm ET on June 30 or whenever they put the starting time. Plus, there can be discussions today about things since many teams are preparing for the draft and what not. So between these discussions, talks with agents, etc - the Suns should have a good idea of there plan to upgrade the roster by draft time. No need to rush anything.

I think the only move that would need to be made between now and June 30 is a potential JR Smith trade so he is waived before the new fiscal season opens.

How much is the cost to waive him again man?........Just strategizing as always....lol

I think there are a couple options but for the Suns: Tyler for JR Smith and Zizic would create about 13m of cap space I believe. JR is owed 3.9 and Zizic like 2+ and Tyler is 19.4

But if you did say Warren and Spaulding or Jimmer for JR, you would get say 7m but would still have Tyler, Josh and the Bucks pick to get Conley

[Ghost of Kleine]

Saw on a Grizzlies board they are fine with trading Conley for Warren. Also hoping they can steal the 6th pick if the Suns are dumb enough to use it instead. It's OK if the team upgrades the veterans or signs such in free agency. Not so much if this is done in expense of the future by giving up a lottery pick. It made more sense in Sarver's early years when the team was good, and he has always been criticized for that.

I wouldn't give up the 6th pick. I would at most give up a package of Warren/ Johnson's expiring/ a Phoenix top 8 lottery protected first/ and the Milwaukee pick.

The Grizz are of course going to ask for that pick, because they are looking to offset the pick that they gave up to Boston in the Jeff Green trade.

But that package, is far and away the best offer that they're likely to see for Conley, due mainly to the factors that some are arguing against Conley for.

Having said that, I think that the package of Warren/Johnson's expiring/ and the Milwaukee pick. Is more than fair value. If it happens cool, if they want more than that, we can find other options as well.

I am not giving up the 6th pick for Conley or even Lowry. They can have the Bucks pick or even the Suns SRP this year. But that 6th pick has more value than Conley to me. That doesn't mean I am opposed to trading it though

I completely agree, Which is why I said I wouldn't either in my post.

If I'm Jones, and Conley is willing to come here of his own volition. And we have a deal excluding the 6th pick in this draft.

I trade for Conley with the plan and intent to draft Clarke at 6, and Ty Jerome ( great shooter and passer, a 6'5 point guard)OR Carson Edwards ( very potent scorer at 6'0, similar to Isiah Thomas) at pick 32, To play behind Conley.

Then we trade Jackson to Indiana for their pick at 18, giving us an extra 5 million in cap space. And use the 18th pick to draft Cam Johnson ( knockdown floor spacing big man).

Then apply the extra 5 million to our current 10 million in cap space to give us 15 million with which to adress our veteran power forward needs.

With the 15 million, I look to address our power forward needs by strength by committee and depth. ( Aminu and Green).

-Aminu for- 10.( great do it all defender, can also play the 3 for us).

- Mike Muscala for- 5.( 6'11 floor spacing veteran big man). Good defender ** With size.

Midlevel exception- Jeff Green.( similar to Aminu, in that he's a versatile defender, and can also hit the three).

Veterans minimum- Nik Stauskus. ( an absolute knockdown 3 point shooter at 6'6, hitting around 42% on his threes. Also he's only 25, and is a Phoenix suns fan due to ( Nash).

So our opening night roster could look like:

POINT GUARD-

Conley/ Melton/ Ty Jerome.

SHOOTING GUARD-

Booker/ Nik Stauskus/ Ty Jerome.

SMALL FORWARD-

Oubre/ Aminu/Bridges/ Cam Johnson.

POWER FORWARD-

Jeff Green/ Al Fariq Aminu/Clarke/ Cam Johnson.

CENTER- Ayton/ Holmes/ Muscala.

+ Perimeter defenders: Aminu/ Oubre/ Bridges/ Melton/Conley.

3 point shooters: ***Conley 37% career.
-Booker 32%.
-***Nik Stauskus 42%.
- Bridges 33%.
- Aminu 33%.
- Jeff Green 34%.
- ***Cam Johnson 45%.
- Mike Muscala 36%.
***3 shooters shooting over 40% on three***.

Front court Defenders( Post)-

Aminu/ Green/ Clarke/ Muscala/Holmes.

Veteran depth added-

Conley/ Stauskus/ Aminu/ Green/ Muscala.

That's a major improvement defensively, as well as perimeter defense and shooting.

***All vets( Sans Conley obviously on 1-2 year deals max)

[Ghost of Kleine]

I would expect the Grizz are going to move Conley to a winning organization if they move him at all. They moved Gasol to Raptors and I suspect Conley to the Jazz makes the most sense. Building and maintaining organizational goodwill with players across the league is pretty important.

I can see either Indiana or Utah being destinations for Conley. Indiana puts COnley with Oladipo and thats pretty stout. Would open up the possibility of Collison to the Suns, or Cory Joseph as well for a "cheaper" option.

I am good with Collison - his shooting % was very good this year.

A win/win as they say then.

[dremill24]

I could be wrong Ghost but I don’t think you can use cap space AND the MLE. You get a Room Exception once you use up your cap space but if you operate as an ‘under the cap’ team then you don’t get the Mid-Level.

[Ghost of Kleine]

If Memphis draft Ja, instead of helping them with the Conley we should go after Delon Wright. He was one of my biggest pg candidate last off season before he got traded to Memphis and he was pretty decent with them as a starter.

I also believe that a pg is our biggest need right now but in the current NBA you can find a lot of guy to fill that position but on the other hand our second biggest problem in the roster is lack of stud pf who can defend and shoot which is way more valuable in the NBA right now. We desperately need a player like that next to Ayton or we will never get the most out of Ayton.

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Yeah I've been thinking wright might be a good under the radar target this summer.

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The only problem with that is that Delon Wright is a restricted free agent for them, and seeing as how they traded for him and prefer to trade Conley, So that they can go younger.

They'd likely match most any offer for him (reasonably of course) and without the Conley trade anyways, we'd only have a total of 10 million to use in free agency.

At that point, are we really sure that he's worth overpaying for??? And could we even offer enough to keep them from matching.

And even IF we do decide to do that, what if they wait and cause us to tie up all of our cap space on that offer, resulting in us missing out on other opportunities?

He just doesn't have enough value for what he might bring to our team, In my opinion to risk it, and potentially tie up all of our cap space on one player of his caliber, even though he is younger.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Saw on a Grizzlies board they are fine with trading Conley for Warren. Also hoping they can steal the 6th pick if the Suns are dumb enough to use it instead. It's OK if the team upgrades the veterans or signs such in free agency. Not so much if this is done in expense of the future by giving up a lottery pick. It made more sense in Sarver's early years when the team was good, and he has always been criticized for that.

I wouldn't give up the 6th pick. I would at most give up a package of Warren/ Johnson's expiring/ a Phoenix top 8 lottery protected first/ and the Milwaukee pick.

The Grizz are of course going to ask for that pick, because they are looking to offset the pick that they gave up to Boston in the Jeff Green trade.

But that package, is far and away the best offer that they're likely to see for Conley, due mainly to the factors that some are arguing against Conley for.

Having said that, I think that the package of Warren/Johnson's expiring/ and the Milwaukee pick. Is more than fair value. If it happens cool, if they want more than that, we can find other options as well.

If Kyrie leaves Boston will need a PG, I can see them being the ones to trade for Conley. They trade Hayward and Memphis back their own pick-would make sense for both teams.

As far as we're concerned maybe we can grab Lowry. If they lose Kawhi they'll be in rebuild mode and will have no need for him. He won't cost much in a trade and will only be a 1 yr rental but can still add veteran leadership.

Definitely a lot of possabilities to be sure I think.

And at that point, If that were to happen, Then honestly, good for Conley. And I would then of course look at Lowry( But mainly for his expiring contract)

But with respect to Memphis, I honestly doubt that they'd be willing to take Hayward's 30 million at back, As their looking to go young and rebuild around picks and cap space.

And even though getting their pick back would be very tempting, I really believe that IF Boston misses out on Davis, AND Kyrie Irving does leave( he's definitely leaving!!!). They'll go in this direction.

A scenario that I think people haven't really considered yet! And that is......

That they'll use some of those picks and a player or two for Beal honestly.

For Beal, They'd offer something like:

The Sacramento kings pick/ the Memphis pick/ and Tatum/ Smart/ And a future Boston unprotected first.


If it's between Lowry and Conley, Then I'd honestly prefer Conley. As Lowry is already 33 yrs old.

Also Lowry also is said to have a somewhat sour and abrasive attitude. And he has yet to prove that he is close to the leader that Conley is, And has slightly worse stats than Conley too.


So with respect to those factors, I just don't feel that he's the right type of leader for our young team.


But having said that, His contract is definitely shorter, And even though he'd expire in 2020. The free agency in 2020 is fairly lousy.

The only players that are worth signing are unfortunately restricted too, For instance.........


- Ben Simmons ( restricted) would we offer a full max and hope that they don't match???

- Jamal Murray ( restricted) the same as above???

- Buddy Hield( Restricted).

- Anthony Davis( Player option). But at that point, Wouldn't he just either head to LA or New York???

Now if A.D. was willing to give us an early indication that he would sign with us, Then I'd definitely look at Lowry in order to clear space for him.

But not unless he indicated as such.

[Ghost of Kleine]

I agree. Nothing has to be done at 9pm ET on June 30 or whenever they put the starting time. Plus, there can be discussions today about things since many teams are preparing for the draft and what not. So between these discussions, talks with agents, etc - the Suns should have a good idea of there plan to upgrade the roster by draft time. No need to rush anything.

I think the only move that would need to be made between now and June 30 is a potential JR Smith trade so he is waived before the new fiscal season opens.

How much is the cost to waive him again man?........Just strategizing as always....lol

I think there are a couple options but for the Suns: Tyler for JR Smith and Zizic would create about 13m of cap space I believe. JR is owed 3.9 and Zizic like 2+ and Tyler is 19.4

But if you did say Warren and Spaulding or Jimmer for JR, you would get say 7m but would still have Tyler, Josh and the Bucks pick to get Conley

Pretty creative and nice additional option man.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I wouldn't give up the 6th pick. I would at most give up a package of Warren/ Johnson's expiring/ a Phoenix top 8 lottery protected first/ and the Milwaukee pick.

The Grizz are of course going to ask for that pick, because they are looking to offset the pick that they gave up to Boston in the Jeff Green trade.

But that package, is far and away the best offer that they're likely to see for Conley, due mainly to the factors that some are arguing against Conley for.

Having said that, I think that the package of Warren/Johnson's expiring/ and the Milwaukee pick. Is more than fair value. If it happens cool, if they want more than that, we can find other options as well.

If Kyrie leaves Boston will need a PG, I can see them being the ones to trade for Conley. They trade Hayward and Memphis back their own pick-would make sense for both teams.

As far as we're concerned maybe we can grab Lowry. If they lose Kawhi they'll be in rebuild mode and will have no need for him. He won't cost much in a trade and will only be a 1 yr rental but can still add veteran leadership.

Definitely a lot of possabilities to be sure I think.

And at that point, If that were to happen, Then honestly, good for Conley. And I would then of course look at Lowry( But mainly for his expiring contract)

But with respect to Memphis, I honestly doubt that they'd be willing to take Hayward's 30 million at back, As their looking to go young and rebuild around picks and cap space.

And even though getting their pick back would be very tempting, I really believe that IF Boston misses out on Davis, AND Kyrie Irving does leave( he's definitely leaving!!!). They'll go in this direction.

A scenario that I think people haven't really considered yet! And that is......

That they'll use some of those picks and a player or two for Beal honestly.

For Beal, They'd offer something like:

The Sacramento kings pick/ the Memphis pick/ and Tatum/ Smart/ And a future Boston unprotected first.


If it's between Lowry and Conley, Then I'd honestly prefer Conley. As Lowry is already 33 yrs old.

Also Lowry also is said to have a somewhat sour and abrasive attitude. And he has yet to prove that he is close to the leader that Conley is, And has slightly worse stats than Conley too.


So with respect to those factors, I just don't feel that he's the right type of leader for our young team.


But having said that, His contract is definitely shorter, And even though he'd expire in 2020. The free agency in 2020 is fairly lousy.

The only players that are worth signing are unfortunately restricted too, For instance.........


- Ben Simmons ( restricted) would we offer a full max and hope that they don't match???

- Jamal Murray ( restricted) the same as above???

- Buddy Hield( Restricted).

- Anthony Davis( Player option). But at that point, Wouldn't he just either head to LA or New York???

Now if A.D. was willing to give us an early indication that he would sign with us, Then I'd definitely look at Lowry in order to clear space for him.

But not unless he indicated as such.

Memphis and any other small market rebuilding team shouldn't worry about cap space early in a rebuild. All that happens in FA for a bad small market is you end up overpaying some medicore player because you feel like you have to spend it. They should take the bad contracts with assets attached instead.

If Kyrie leaves I could absolutely see them be willing to take heyward plus their pick back for Conley. He's actually a decent gamble because if he gets healthier he could actually turn into a positive asset at the deadline or next summer.

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[SuperSunsFan]

can anyone fill me in on why is Garland considered a better prospect than White? White is more intriguing to me on paper for simply having much better size, been able to stay healthy so far and being not a Klutch client. Both have a scorer mentality but White had a whole season to prove he could be a capable Jamal Murry type lead guard that Garland wasn't able to yet due to injury. Feel that White is the you know what you get type like TJ, Murray and Buddy Hield but Garland is the high risk high gain type like JJ, Bender and Chriss and since going after those high risk high reward types have not been working out for suns so far maybe we should take a little approach this time and get the more sure things in White or Clarke

[King4Day]

OT: Does anyone on this forum actually read Kleine's incessant, disorganized blabbering?

He formulated a debatable response. I don't know if I've even seen a non negative post from you. No need to get mad at fellow Suns fans. We're all on the same side but it never feels like that with you.

[Kerrsed]

can anyone fill me in on why is Garland considered a better prospect than White? White is more intriguing to me on paper for simply having much better size, been able to stay healthy so far and being not a Klutch client. Both have a scorer mentality but White had a whole season to prove he could be a capable Jamal Murry type lead guard that Garland wasn't able to yet due to injury. Feel that White is the you know what you get type like TJ, Murray and Buddy Hield but Garland is the high risk high gain type like JJ, Bender and Chriss and since going after those high risk high reward types have not been working out for suns so far maybe we should take a little approach this time and get the more sure things in White or Clarke

He was the #1 rated PG in the 2018 class going into college.

Out of all the high school Point Guards, he was rated as the best. He was so good that even though he only played 5 games in college before getting injured he STILL is a top 5 pick and above all other PG's not named Ja.

[Ghost of Kleine]

If Kyrie leaves Boston will need a PG, I can see them being the ones to trade for Conley. They trade Hayward and Memphis back their own pick-would make sense for both teams.

As far as we're concerned maybe we can grab Lowry. If they lose Kawhi they'll be in rebuild mode and will have no need for him. He won't cost much in a trade and will only be a 1 yr rental but can still add veteran leadership.

Definitely a lot of possabilities to be sure I think.

And at that point, If that were to happen, Then honestly, good for Conley. And I would then of course look at Lowry( But mainly for his expiring contract)

But with respect to Memphis, I honestly doubt that they'd be willing to take Hayward's 30 million at back, As their looking to go young and rebuild around picks and cap space.

And even though getting their pick back would be very tempting, I really believe that IF Boston misses out on Davis, AND Kyrie Irving does leave( he's definitely leaving!!!). They'll go in this direction.

A scenario that I think people haven't really considered yet! And that is......

That they'll use some of those picks and a player or two for Beal honestly.

For Beal, They'd offer something like:

The Sacramento kings pick/ the Memphis pick/ and Tatum/ Smart/ And a future Boston unprotected first.


If it's between Lowry and Conley, Then I'd honestly prefer Conley. As Lowry is already 33 yrs old.

Also Lowry also is said to have a somewhat sour and abrasive attitude. And he has yet to prove that he is close to the leader that Conley is, And has slightly worse stats than Conley too.


So with respect to those factors, I just don't feel that he's the right type of leader for our young team.


But having said that, His contract is definitely shorter, And even though he'd expire in 2020. The free agency in 2020 is fairly lousy.

The only players that are worth signing are unfortunately restricted too, For instance.........


- Ben Simmons ( restricted) would we offer a full max and hope that they don't match???

- Jamal Murray ( restricted) the same as above???

- Buddy Hield( Restricted).

- Anthony Davis( Player option). But at that point, Wouldn't he just either head to LA or New York???

Now if A.D. was willing to give us an early indication that he would sign with us, Then I'd definitely look at Lowry in order to clear space for him.

But not unless he indicated as such.

Memphis and any other small market rebuilding team shouldn't worry about cap space early in a rebuild. All that happens in FA for a bad small market is you end up overpaying some medicore player because you feel like you have to spend it. They should take the bad contracts with assets attached instead.

If Kyrie leaves I could absolutely see them be willing to take heyward plus their pick back for Conley. He's actually a decent gamble because if he gets healthier he could actually turn into a positive asset at the deadline or next summer.

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The reason that I say they wouldn't want to take back Hayward, Is because they want to rebuild, and EVEN with getting their pick back in a trade, they want to be worse, So they can get a higher pick in a much better draft.

And moving Conley for young players, Not Hayward helps them do that.

Pick back or not, Hayward when combined with Morant /Jackson Jr. And Valuncias would make them just medoicre enough to miss out on a really high prospect next year.

Again, They can indeed make the offer, But I don't see the Grizzlies taking it. Also, I could more realistically see them pursuing Beal with their assets if Irving leaves and Davis doesn't happen.

Just my opinion on it.

[bwgood77]

can anyone fill me in on why is Garland considered a better prospect than White? White is more intriguing to me on paper for simply having much better size, been able to stay healthy so far and being not a Klutch client. Both have a scorer mentality but White had a whole season to prove he could be a capable Jamal Murry type lead guard that Garland wasn't able to yet due to injury. Feel that White is the you know what you get type like TJ, Murray and Buddy Hield but Garland is the high risk high gain type like JJ, Bender and Chriss and since going after those high risk high reward types have not been working out for suns so far maybe we should take a little approach this time and get the more sure things in White or Clarke

He was the #1 rated PG in the 2018 class going into college.

Out of all the high school Point Guards, he was rated as the best. He was so good that even though he only played 5 games in college before getting injured he STILL is a top 5 pick and above all other PG's not named Ja.

He was rated as the top pg in a bad pg class...he was like 17th in prospect ratings to start the year, or somewhere in the teens, but so many of the top prospects either got hurt (Porter, Bol) or vastly disappointed (Little, Reddish, Langford, Grimes).

He is apparently a really good shooter and can shoot of the dribble which is important. And his % in his limited sample of 5 games was like 48% from 3 (11-23).

In theory he sounds good but he did play more off ball coming out of college and isn't a big distributor type (also had more turnovers than assists in his 5 games).

It's just a huge role of the dice with him. He rose by not playing.

Had Reddish or Little only played 5 games they'd probably be consensus top 5 picks, but obviously that's far from the case.

[SuperSunsFan]

can anyone fill me in on why is Garland considered a better prospect than White? White is more intriguing to me on paper for simply having much better size, been able to stay healthy so far and being not a Klutch client. Both have a scorer mentality but White had a whole season to prove he could be a capable Jamal Murry type lead guard that Garland wasn't able to yet due to injury. Feel that White is the you know what you get type like TJ, Murray and Buddy Hield but Garland is the high risk high gain type like JJ, Bender and Chriss and since going after those high risk high reward types have not been working out for suns so far maybe we should take a little approach this time and get the more sure things in White or Clarke

He was the #1 rated PG in the 2018 class going into college.

Out of all the high school Point Guards, he was rated as the best. He was so good that even though he only played 5 games in college before getting injured he STILL is a top 5 pick and above all other PG's not named Ja.

but i have read from somewhere that his ability of successfully running a team still hasn't been proven and he only averaged 2 point something assists in the five games he played...