2019 Draft Thread Volume #6 - Post Lottery

[dumbell78]

KC's Latest:

Garland, who played in only five games before a meniscus injury ended his lone college season, left the draft combine this week with an alleged draft promise from a lottery team. Multiple league executives assume it’s from the Lakers or Suns.

After meeting the media and interviewing with select teams, White left the combine with widespread speculation that he, too, has received a draft promise. Two league executives who spoke with the Tribune believe White’s promise is from a team that picks before the Bulls.

On the night of the draft lottery, executive vice president John Paxson said the Bulls are keeping open the option of straying from their typical draft philosophy of taking the best available player and that positional need might prevail if the available players are closely ranked. If the Bulls keep the pick and Garland or White surprisingly is available, look for either one to end up in a Bulls uniform.

Sounds like there's a good possibility that the draft unfolds like:

Zion
Morant
Barrett
Garland
Culver
White

Leaving the Bulls with a choice of Hunter, Reddish, Little, Doumbouya, and Bol among others.

If that holds true, you grab Hunter. Little would be a wild card for me.

[GimmeDat]

If anything I'd love for us to trade back a few spots and have the choice between Hunter/Little/Reddish/Doumbouya made for us.

Right now I am feeling Reddish/Doumbouya slightly more than the other 2.

[Red Larrivee]

DeAndre Hunter:

[drosereturn]

If you’re going to hit a “HR” outside the top 5, it’s far more likely you’re going to do so because you drafted a player who has deficient in some areas becoming better than you are drafting some athlete and hoping they’re good.

DeAndre Hunter is the homerun swing, not Cam Reddish.

Yeah, this is where I'm leaning as well. Hunter's floor is very appealing: Guards 1-4, good three-point shooter, good athlete, multiple effort player on both sides of the ball, high IQ and produced at a high level with sustainable and projectable usage.

Theres no way Hunter/Culver is falling to 7. If somehow they are available, the teams that are picking before the Bulls are doing something major wrong. These players have actual all-star ceilings and a very high floor.

I am down for Sekou/Bol but these guys are just must picks. Cant believe people are falling for Garland/White when NAW is not far off.
Something like a Hunter/NAW pickup would be homerun swing if they could get a frp.

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

DeAndre Hunter:

Filthy.

[drosereturn]

I need to look more closely in to Sekou and the way he moves and whether he can play some 3. Up to this point it's been considered he's a 4.

But no doubt about it, there's a lot of upside there, he's still only 18, he's a baby, and a game like today's (34 points) demonstrates the sort of talent that is coming together for him. Should definitely be in the conversation, at least.

As Red said, it seems like the guards might even go before us. There's a lot of combo-forwards to choose from after that. It's a position I don't envy the Bulls for being in, you can make a good argument for any of the guys (excluding Bol, I don't think he's in the convo for us) that Red listed above.. and that's why I'd prefer to be down a few spots (with an asset as compensation) and have the choice almost made for us.

Didnt even know Sekou had 34 pt game, but everyone should by now Sekou/ Bol are swing the fences type.
Literally, they can be poor man's KP/Giannis but they also have some bust factor.
Questions is how patient are the fan base/FO in developing and believing in them?

My proposal is if Culver/Hunter/Garland are gone, make a deal with ATL or some other teams and convert #7 to two late lottery picks.Its a weak draft, so swinging the fences for 2 long term prospects makes sense. They might even end up being near franchise level players. That being said, Sekou and Bol would be the dream type scenario more than getting one prospect (Hunter).

[HomoSapien]

Theres no way Hunter/Culver is falling to 7. If somehow they are available, the teams that are picking before the Bulls are doing something major wrong. These players have actual all-star ceilings and a very high floor.

If the rumor is true that Coby White has a top 6 promise, then one of those guys is going to drop to us. There's always someone who's stock surges by draft day. That guy might be White, but it's also not hard to imagine a GM becoming enamored with someone like Reddish, Hachimura, Little, or Hayes.

[Jcool0]

If you’re going to hit a “HR” outside the top 5, it’s far more likely you’re going to do so because you drafted a player who has deficient in some areas becoming better than you are drafting some athlete and hoping they’re good.

DeAndre Hunter is the homerun swing, not Cam Reddish.

Yeah, this is where I'm leaning as well. Hunter's floor is very appealing: Guards 1-4, good three-point shooter, good athlete, multiple effort player on both sides of the ball, high IQ and produced at a high level with sustainable and projectable usage.

Theres no way Hunter/Culver is falling to 7. If somehow they are available, the teams that are picking before the Bulls are doing something major wrong. These players have actual all-star ceilings and a very high floor.

I am down for Sekou/Bol but these guys are just must picks. Cant believe people are falling for Garland/White when NAW is not far off.
Something like a Hunter/NAW pickup would be homerun swing if they could get a frp.

Hunter/Culver seems like text book solid pros. low ceiling high floor types.

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

If you’re going to hit a “HR” outside the top 5, it’s far more likely you’re going to do so because you drafted a player who has deficient in some areas becoming better than you are drafting some athlete and hoping they’re good.

DeAndre Hunter is the homerun swing, not Cam Reddish.

Yeah, this is where I'm leaning as well. Hunter's floor is very appealing: Guards 1-4, good three-point shooter, good athlete, multiple effort player on both sides of the ball, high IQ and produced at a high level with sustainable and projectable usage.

Theres no way Hunter/Culver is falling to 7. If somehow they are available, the teams that are picking before the Bulls are doing something major wrong. These players have actual all-star ceilings and a very high floor.

One of them could very easily fall. Garland has a top 7 promise. Cam is also projected in that range post-combine. It wouldn’t take much.

[panthermark]

I would lose my mind (in a good way) if we had a Hunter/Fall draft, and a Brodgon/Taj FA signing.

[dimez]

What are the chances that Phoenix takes white over garland at 6? Maybe they'll be cautious about the meniscus injury and settle for white.

[MeloRoseNoah]

DeAndre Hunter:

Filthy.

Now that’s a Paul George sleeper there, not some Reddish bum who sucks at college basketball.

[MeloRoseNoah]

I would lose my mind (in a good way) if we had a Hunter/Fall draft, and a Brodgon/Taj FA signing.

Every year, there’s always a one or two dumb teams who pick busts. This year is no exception. It’s looking like we might have either Porter or Culver in a Bulls jersey on draft night.

[tedwilliams1999]

DeAndre Hunter:

That's amazing - maybe Hunter has more upside than I initially imagined? I'd definitely be extremely happy with Hunter or Culver (any way to get a similar chart like this for Culver?).

And honestly I'd probably be happy with Garland too, and White continues to grow on me. I was disappointed on draft night, but the difference between the #3 pick and the #7 pick is pretty slim when it comes to prospect tiers.

All of those players above are high IQ guys (I think Garland is?), and that's all I can ask for.

[fleet]

DeAndre Hunter:

Filthy.

Now that’s a Paul George sleeper there, not some Reddish bum who sucks at college basketball.

He seems like an efficient guy. But he wasn't as good his freshman year. And, put Zion and RJ in the lineup with Hunter, and see what would have happened to his game that year. Or this year for that matter. I'm not advocating for Reddish necessarily. But Reddish was definately in a tough position to shine at Duke right away. And his potential on D is there.

[MeloRoseNoah]

Filthy.

Now that’s a Paul George sleeper there, not some Reddish bum who sucks at college basketball.

He seems like an efficient guy. But he wasn't as good his freshman year. And, put Zion and RJ in the lineup with Hunter, and see what would have happened to his game that year. Or this year for that matter. I'm not advocating for Reddish necessarily. But Reddish was definately in a tough position to shine at Duke right away. And his potential on D is there.

Reddish was straight up trash even after Zion came out for a few games. It was a perfect opportunity for him to show the world that he was held back as a role player. Yet, he was a worse basketball player when given more responsibility. No excuse for him. The kid is an obvious bust. I will be very surprised if he manages to become a decent long term starter in the NBA.

[RedBulls23]

He seems like an efficient guy. But he wasn't as good his freshman year. And, put Zion and RJ in the lineup with Hunter, and see what would have happened to his game that year. Or this year for that matter. I'm not advocating for Reddish necessarily. But Reddish was definately in a tough position to shine at Duke right away. And his potential on D is there.

The problem is that Reddish didn't do better when Zion went down either.

[NADROJ]

I am rapidly trending towards **** it, take Kevin Porter Jr. and pray.

[GimmeDat]

Hunter is an extremely efficient offensive player, and he's a seriously good defender (only thing holding him back from elite status is steal/block rates imo).

But I don't see the ceiling with him. I thought I did after his freshman season, but now it feels like his limitations are a bit more clear. He's like a 3/D combo-forward. He doesn't have the offensive fluidity or skill flashes to be a guy that really turns in to a high upside offensive player, from what I saw this season.

[dumbell78]

I'm not advocating for Reddish necessarily. But Reddish was definately in a tough position to shine at Duke right away. And his potential on D is there.

I cant get behind that kind of argument for picking Cam #7. The drafting of a guy @ #7 cant be because of some perceived crutch due to him playing with some great players and didn't get to show his true ability. The guy flat out sucked and he had ample opportunity to show he didn't. I wouldn't take him in the lottery period and would probably not even take him 1st round if the draft wasn't so damn weak.