Free agency and trade ideas: Which wings do we go after this summer?

[RunDogGun]

Look our roster from 3 years away.

Yeah, not too many guys on that team are on the team now...and less of them are gonna be in September.

Probably none of Bridges or Oubre are gonna be on our team in 2/3 years, it is the league's nature.

So do not be bother about that...if a player is good he will find a way to play big minutes.

Wait what? We have Bridges under contract for like 25 years and Kelly is about to sign a 10 year deal.

With the way the league is going, why can't we just start both of them at the 3/4? I thought Oubre did an exceptional job averaging 1.4 steals and 1 block per game. He has that quick burst jump like Marion. I like the length both Oubre and Bridges provide for the wings too, I think both of them have 7'2 wingspans (at least 7 foot). Not many teams can compete with that kind of athleticism IMO. Just need a quality veteran PG leader to put it all together.

I actually really liked when we had three of our sfs in at the same time. The defense was really good, guys hustled and we overall had better team chemistry. So it is a tough call when making a move. Hopefully Tyler works on his point guard skills and his shooting.

[MVSteve]

Given our two big needs are PG and PF, I've been trying to reason through this off-season from a big picture perspective before identifying specific players I think would fit best.

With the lottery outcome, our chances of getting a superstar type player this draft are pretty poor. Not to say it isn't possible, but beyond Zion/Ja, I think anyone else ending up good enough to be part of a "Big #" is hard to bank on. For us, I think that really means DA needs to get to that level, and we need to do everything we can to get him there. Obviously it's ideal if he becomes a monster either way, but if, for instance, we had gotten Zion, it's possible we could build a contender with DA being third banana. I don't think that's the case now and he needs to be 1a or 1b with Booker.

I think our approach this off-season should reflect that, and we should target a solid vet at PG and draft a PF. We saw how much this team struggled last year getting DA the ball, even on simple post-ups (yes, that is partially on the O we were running and partially on DA, but also a ton of poor/failed entry attempts), not to mention how he would thrive with someone who could run PnR well (interesting that JJ and DA seemed to have pretty good chemistry there but with Book it seemed pretty bad to me). Getting a PG that can get him the ball in favorable positions would do wonders for his confidence/development, and I just don't see that happening with a rookie running point. If we weren't relying so much on DA becoming great, I think someone like Garland would be a fine choice, but he hasn't shown much at all in terms of getting others involved (small sample size I know, but I've seen that listed as a weakness of his in general). White maybe has a little more potential there, but he's not refined at all at ball handling/passing. With a vet PG we have someone who can get DA the ball and take pressure off of Booker, as a ball handler and potentially as a scorer. Maybe Tyler J can be that guy, but I still think I'd explore other options. A rookie PF could come in for us and be in a pretty low pressure/expectation situation...play smart, play hard, do the little things.

This might not be the way the FO approaches things at all, but basically what I've been thinking so far. Anyone have similar/different thoughts from a big picture perspective?

[bigfoot]

Given our two big needs are PG and PF, I've been trying to reason through this off-season from a big picture perspective before identifying specific players I think would fit best.

With the lottery outcome, our chances of getting a superstar type player this draft are pretty poor. Not to say it isn't possible, but beyond Zion/Ja, I think anyone else ending up good enough to be part of a "Big #" is hard to bank on. For us, I think that really means DA needs to get to that level, and we need to do everything we can to get him there. Obviously it's ideal if he becomes a monster either way, but if, for instance, we had gotten Zion, it's possible we could build a contender with DA being third banana. I don't think that's the case now and he needs to be 1a or 1b with Booker.

I think our approach this off-season should reflect that, and we should target a solid vet at PG and draft a PF. We saw how much this team struggled last year getting DA the ball, even on simple post-ups (yes, that is partially on the O we were running and partially on DA, but also a ton of poor/failed entry attempts), not to mention how he would thrive with someone who could run PnR well (interesting that JJ and DA seemed to have pretty good chemistry there but with Book it seemed pretty bad to me). Getting a PG that can get him the ball in favorable positions would do wonders for his confidence/development, and I just don't see that happening with a rookie running point. If we weren't relying so much on DA becoming great, I think someone like Garland would be a fine choice, but he hasn't shown much at all in terms of getting others involved (small sample size I know, but I've seen that listed as a weakness of his in general). White maybe has a little more potential there, but he's not refined at all at ball handling/passing. With a vet PG we have someone who can get DA the ball and take pressure off of Booker, as a ball handler and potentially as a scorer. Maybe Tyler J can be that guy, but I still think I'd explore other options. A rookie PF could come in for us and be in a pretty low pressure/expectation situation...play smart, play hard, do the little things.

This might not be the way the FO approaches things at all, but basically what I've been thinking so far. Anyone have similar/different thoughts from a big picture perspective?

The first order of business should be acquiring a veteran PG to support Ayton's growth as you suggest. We need to do whatever it takes to get one even if that means we have to give up the #6 pick and can't draft a PF. Finding a PF is less important since we can utilize Warren, Oubre, and possibly Bender in that position. Also, I don't see moving or stretching Tyler Johnson, as many people suggest, as a very good option. We need good depth at PG in the event of an injury and TJo can back up whatever PG we acquire this summer. If we manage find a veteran PG and still retain our #6 pick then we need to take the best player available (based on free throw shooting, three point shooting, and defense). No more relying on athletic potential and hoping their shot will develop. Done with that ****.

[Kerrsed]

Was curious what it would cost for Cleveland to trade Love, figured they would be ready to move on from him and start the rebuild....and YIKES.

[TeamTragic]

Was curious what it would cost for Cleveland to trade Love, figured they would be ready to move on from him and start the rebuild....and YIKES.

I'm curious about this rumor. Did they forget LeBron bailed on them?

[Crives]

Can’t love Bridges any more

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Please resign this man

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[bwgood77]

Look our roster from 3 years away.

Yeah, not too many guys on that team are on the team now...and less of them are gonna be in September.

Probably none of Bridges or Oubre are gonna be on our team in 2/3 years, it is the league's nature.

So do not be bother about that...if a player is good he will find a way to play big minutes.

Wait what? We have Bridges under contract for like 25 years and Kelly is about to sign a 10 year deal.

With the way the league is going, why can't we just start both of them at the 3/4? I thought Oubre did an exceptional job averaging 1.4 steals and 1 block per game. He has that quick burst jump like Marion. I like the length both Oubre and Bridges provide for the wings too, I think both of them have 7'2 wingspans (at least 7 foot). Not many teams can compete with that kind of athleticism IMO. Just need a quality veteran PG leader to put it all together.

If we don't sign or trade for a starting caliber PG I might just start Oubre at PF and tell him to crash the boards. At least you have that length. It would be nice to have TJ off he bench in that case.

Hopefully we would have a good playmaking/shooting PG and then Bridges and Ayton's playmaking continue to develop to compensate for Oubre's lack of playmaking/good decision making.

Tyler Johnson and TJ Warren off the bench wouldn't be too bad...and Clarke if we nabbed him (though I don't imagine we will).

[Kerrsed]

Was curious what it would cost for Cleveland to trade Love, figured they would be ready to move on from him and start the rebuild....and YIKES.

I'm curious about this rumor. Did they forget LeBron bailed on them?

I just.....i dont know.....

I figured they would be looking to move on and might accept something like matching salary along with a young player and maybe a pick, but nah, seems like a lot of the fans want to keep him and the few that dont are expecting a bit of a kings ransom. Saw a few ideas out there where they trade him and their pick for #2 and matching salary (NOT Parsons or Conley). Just some all round questionable ideas that left me scratching my head. Even ran upon a few non-Love trades where they think they can get Jackson from us for Dellavedova (Because we need a PG and ANY PG will do) and a 2nd round pick.

Im just trying to think outside the box and maybe find a few stars that could have decent seasons left if they were to switch teams (Like i did in years past with Blake Griffin) and could be had for cheap. Was even thinking about a way to make Ball to the Suns a better deal than us giving up #6 along with Jackson (Which i do believe is too much).

[grumpysaddle]

Please resign this man

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He does play his most productive minutes in the off-season.

[BobbieL]

Was curious what it would cost for Cleveland to trade Love, figured they would be ready to move on from him and start the rebuild....and YIKES.

I'm curious about this rumor. Did they forget LeBron bailed on them?

I just.....i dont know.....

I figured they would be looking to move on and might accept something like matching salary along with a young player and maybe a pick, but nah, seems like a lot of the fans want to keep him and the few that dont are expecting a bit of a kings ransom. Saw a few ideas out there where they trade him and their pick for #2 and matching salary (NOT Parsons or Conley). Just some all round questionable ideas that left me scratching my head. Even ran upon a few non-Love trades where they think they can get Jackson from us for Dellavedova (Because we need a PG and ANY PG will do) and a 2nd round pick.

Im just trying to think outside the box and maybe find a few stars that could have decent seasons left if they were to switch teams (Like i did in years past with Blake Griffin) and could be had for cheap. Was even thinking about a way to make Ball to the Suns a better deal than us giving up #6 along with Jackson (Which i do believe is too much).

How about the 6th pick, Okobo or Melton (if they want) and switch SRPs with the Lakers - keeping Jackson for another deal.

Granted, the above deal would mean about 2m less of cap space as 3rd year Ball makes more than 2019 FRP + Okobo/Melton

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[TeamTragic]

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[Ghost of Kleine]

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So then Ball, or a rookie guard perhaps???

[TeamTragic]

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So then Ball, or a rookie guard perhaps???

Apparently the Bulls are interested in Ball.

[BobbieL]

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I think Conley would be a good player to get but the problem is a two year deal. I am not a person that thinks the money is an issue since the team is paying Tyler + Josh + Okobo/Melton around 27.5m. Yes, Conley is 5m more or so but its not like they have 27m of cap space - they are already on the books for most of the Conley salary.

That said - I think today - they need to figure out if the Le-Broners run by Jack Chrissy and Janet - where is Mr. Roper running that clow show in LA - really are moving Lonzo Ball. Just all over that deal

[Ghost of Kleine]

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So then Ball, or a rookie guard perhaps???

Apparently the Bulls are interested in Ball.

Yeah, caught that ........Thanks. But there have been some on here recently discussing trading the 6th pick, etc for Ball, to intevene before chicago closes the deal. Which is why i mentioned it.

[darealjuice]

Interesting that Gambo says there’s zero chance for Conley. Not that surprising though, that’d be a lot of money and resources to use on a short-term solution for a team that didn’t win 20 games last year. It’ll be interesting to see how they plan on addressing the point guard spot this offseason.

[grumpysaddle]

Since when was Gambo a reliable source of information? He's just opinions like we are, I doubt he's very connected to anything that's going on, unless they want him to leak something.