2019 NBA Finals Thread, Part 1 | Golden State Warriors vs Toronto Raptors

[everdiso]

just a what if scenario here, but if durant doesn't come back, and the raptors win the series, that means the core of steph + klay + green would be 1-2 in the finals w/o KD and the one win was a cavs team w/o irving + love. does it hurt their legacy? especially if kd leaves?

this post gave me an idea....why don't we go back and look at the history of the warriors pre-KD?

2013-14: 51 wins, lost 1st round

Curry (25): 36.5mpg, 28.3usg%, .225ws48, 7.4bpm --- PLYF: 42.3mpg, 23.1usg%, .131ws48, 3.7bpm
Dray (23): 21.9mpg, 14.8usg%, .119ws48, 2.8bpm ---- PLYF: 32.6mpg, 16.4usg%, .109ws48, 6.8bpm
Klay (23): 35.4mpg, 22.6usg%, .112ws48, 0.7bpm ---- PLYF: 36.7mpg, 20.5usg%, .045ws48, 0.6bpm
Iggy (30): 32.4mpg, 13.3usg%, .135ws48, 3.0bpm ---- PLYF: 35.4mpg, 16.7usg%, .049ws48, 1.3bpm
Lee (30): 33.2mpg, 24.3usg%, .160ws48, 0.8bpm ----- PLYF: 31.0mpg, 20.1usg%, .081ws48, 1.3bpm

Barnes (21): 28.3mpg, 16.8usg%, .070ws48, -1.4bpm - PLYF: 22.3mpg, 16.4usg%, .033ws48, -1.5bpm
O'Neal (35): 20.1mpg, 17.8usg%, .146ws48, -1.3bpm -- PLYF: 12.0mpg, 20.0usg%, .118ws48, -1.8bpm
Speights (26): 12.4mpg, 25.4usg%, .103ws48, -5.2bpm - PLYF: 9.7mpg, 27.1usg%, .146ws48, 1.5bpm

So the band was still young, but the band was all together at this point. Steph was already a super elite player, Klay was Klay, and Iggy was Iggy. Dray wasn't yet Dray during the regular season, but turned into Dray come playoffs. Lee was mediocre, the bench stunk. Unfortunately, this young team choked hard in the playoffs, led by Curry. Just poor performance across the board, except for the aforementioned Dray, the only guy to step up and he stepped up huge. This was also before they went all-in on their smallball lineup.


2014-15: 67wins, won Championship

Curry (26): 32.7mpg, 28.9usg%, .288ws48, 9.9bpm -------- PLYF: 39.3mpg, 31.0usg%, .228ws48, 8.7bpm
Dray (24): 31.5mpg, 17.2usg%, .163ws48, 5.0bpm --------- PLYF: 37.3mpg, 19.2usg%, .161ws48, 6.0bpm
Klay (24): 31.9mpg, 27.6usg%, .172ws48, 2.7bpm ---------- PLYF: 36.2mpg, 23.3usg%, .118ws48, 1.5bpm
Iggy (31): 26.9mpg, 13.3usg%, .117ws48, 1.6bpm ---------- PLYF: 30.2mpg, 15.1usg%, .170ws48, 4.1bpm
Barnes (22): 28.3mpg, 14.9usg%, .139ws48, 1.1bpm ------ PLYF: 32.4mpg, 15.6usg%, .115w48, 1.6bpm

Bogut (30): 23.6mpg, 13.2usg%, .159ws48, 4.1bpm -------- PLYF: 23.2mpg, 10.9usg%, .153ws48, 4.6bpm
Livingston (28): 18.8mpg, 15.9usg%, .107ws48, -1.7bpm -- PLYF: 17.9mpg, 13.3usg%, .118ws48, -0.5bpm
Barbosa (32): 14.9mpg, 20.5usg%, .137ws48, -0.8bpm ----- PLYF: 10.9mpg, 21.5usg%, .113ws48, -2.1bpm

Curry got even better. And now Dray joined him as a full time elite player. Klay actually had maybe his best year impact wise. And Iggy stepped up into Playoffs Iggy for the first time. Bogut being healthy again ended up being a bigtime impact add as well. And this time there was no choking come playoffs time. well, Klay choked a bit (though really his regular season may have been the career outlier here), but Iggy stepped up so large it didn;'t matter. Barnes actually looked like a useful player at this point too, though he was riding coattails.


2015-16: 73 wins, lost Finals

Curry (27): 34.2mpg, 32.6usg%, .318ws48, 12.5bpm ---------- PLYF: 34.1mpg, 32.1usg%, .152ws48, 6.4bpm
Dray (25): 34.7mpg, 18.8usg%, .190ws48, 5.8bpm ------------- PLYF: 38.2mpg, 18.9usg%, .171ws48, 7.1bpm
Klay (25): 33.3mpg, 26.3usg%, .144ws48, 0.7bpm ------------- PLYF: 35.4mpg, 28.0usg%, .142ws48, 2.8bpm
Iggy (32): 26.6mpg, 12.1usg%, .122ws48, 1.6bpm ------------- PLYF: 32.0mpg, 12.1usg%, .133ws48, 3.8bpm
Barnes (23): 30.9mpg, 15.9usg%, .116ws48, -0.2bpm --------- PLYF: 31.0mpg, 14.5usg%, .047ws48, -1.2bpm

Bogut (31): 20.7mpg, 11.4usg%, .180ws48, 4.5bpm ------------ PLYF: 16.6mpg, 12.3usg%, .194ws48, 7.4bpm
Livingston (29): 19.5mpg, 14.2usg%, .145ws48m, -0.5bpm --- PLYF: 21.4mpg, 18.2usg%, .108ws48, -0.7bpm
Barbosa (33): 15.9mpg, 18.1usg%, .091ws48, -2.1bpm -------- PLYF: 11.0mpg, 18.7usg%, .172ws48, 2.1bpm


Now this is pretty interesting. Curry went supernova this year, putting one of the elite impact seasons of all time. He was THE reason they won 73 games. Just amazing. But, looking at the numbers, I can't get past the fact that for the 2nd time in 3yrs, he kinda choked in the playoffs. He was still really damn good, but nowhere near what he was in the regular season. Dray and Iggy stepped up as usual in the playoffs again, and even Klay joined the party this time, but Steph just wasn't the same Steph in the playoffs, and that's probably whey they didn't win. In fact, the year they won is the only year where Stef maintained his super-elite regular season performance right through the playoffs.

Now we look at this year's team, without KD, and ask ourselves which of these three Warriors squads this year's team most closely resembles:

2018-19: 57 wins, in Finals

Curry (30): 33.8mpg, 30.4usg%, .199ws48, 6.3bpm -------- PLYF: 37.2mpg, 28.7usg%, .195ws48, 5.3bpm
Dray (28): 31.3mpg, 13.1usg%, .100ws48, 2.0bpm --------- PLYF: 37.7mpg, 17.5usg%, .139ws48, 5.7bpm
Klay (28): 34.0mpg, 25.6usg%, .095ws48, -0.8bpm --------- PLYF: 39.4mpg, 21.8usg%, .042ws48, -0.9bpm
Iggy (35): 23.2mpg, 10.4usg%, .129ws48, 1.9bpm ---------- PLYF: 29.4mpg, 13.6usg%, .152ws48. 5.1bpm
Cousins (28): 25.7mpg, 28.1usg%, .151ws48, 3.6bpm ------ PLYF: 12.5mpg, 34.3usg%, -.138ws48, -4.6bpm

Looney (22): 18.5mpg, 12.8usg%, .195ws48, 3.7bpm ------- PLYF: 20.5mpg, 11.6usg%, .209ws48, 4.8bpm
Livingston (33): 15.1mpg, 12.0usg%, .101ws48, -1.5bpm --- PLYF: 14.0mpg, 11.9usg%, .097ws48, -1.5bpm
McKinnie (26): 13.9mpg, 13.9usg%, .100ws48, -2.5bpm ---- PLYF: 11.1mpg, 11.9usg%, .087ws48, -3.5bpm

So I think everyone is prepared to concede that the warriors' regular season performance has to be taken with large doses of salt, as they weren't keeping their foot on the gas all year.

And indeed, we can see that clearly here - once again, Playoffs Dray and Playoffs Iggy have stepped up as always despite their poor regular seasons. Klay hasn't stepped up, though, and he is starting to look like he's gone from "good but overrated" to "kinda bad and still overrated".

What's interesting to me here again is Mr.Curry - once again he had a great regular season, but maybe not quite as high impact as the pre-KD years. The one year they won without KD, Curry was elite of elite in the playoffs - and this year he's not quite there. Of course, what makes it more interesting is that he sure as hell looked like he was there last series. So the question is can Curry go supernova against the raps like he did against the Blazers? I'd say he probably needs to, because there's less support than usual. Dray and Iggy are great as always, but Klay doesn't seem to be prime Klay anymore, and now of course with the injuries the depth beyond that looks spottier than usual as well.

If I had to say which previous Playoffs Warriors the current team most resembles based on these numbers, I'd have to say the '16 Warriors that lost in the finals - Curry looks very good but maybe not super-elite, Dray and Iggy both look great, the 5th starter is a big question mark and they have one big off the bench consistently having a good impact....they seem very similar player by player with one exception - Klay seems to be a noticably lesser player now than he was then.

[hongdayuan]

41 pages of predictions and arguments when we don't even know what the starting line-up will be like for the warriors. KD is out of game 1, is boogie good to go? is iggy good to go? realistically speaking, i project the starting line-up to be:

C: bogut - gasol
PF: draymond - siakam
SF: iggy - kawhi
SG: klay - green
PG: steph - lowry

[dakomish23]

Does TOR use Siakam a lot as the screener?

I think he can do some damage against GSW in these situations b/c of his finishing ability.

Edit. Found this on him running the PnR. Still looking for him being the screener.

https://www.raptorsrepublic.com/2019/01/22/raptors-playbook-4-1-pick-roll-pascal-siakam/

He sets screens when Kawhi has the ball

Thx. I have to look up his PnR numbers as the screener.

[HotTubMike]

lol at the poll in this thread. Raps mafia strong on RealGM. You'd think they could have their owned dedicated forum website.

[SwaggyB]

lol at the poll in this thread. Raps mafia strong on RealGM. You'd think they could have their owned dedicated forum website.

We do, it's called realgm. You've just been visiting the subforums.

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[basketball royalty]

There is only one answer. Raps in 4.

That ball didn’t bounce on the rim like that for no reason.

[bmurph128]

Warriors will have a minimum 3 of the best 4 offensive and defensive players and the better system. Besides having blind faith that Kawhi can do what James couldn't this will likely be a quick series . The Nba is decided on talent

The last time LeBron played the Warriors without Durant he won.

Also, the Raptors match up much better with the Warriors than those Cavs teams did. Their defense is good.

[Karate Diop]

I can't believe I'm actually rooting for the Raptors...

[Jordan45822]

Durant is traveling with the team to Toronto according to Haynes.

[zshawn10]

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[T-d0t]

Durant is traveling with the team to Toronto according to Haynes.

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He's coming only to see Drake, he won't play.

[everdiso]

thoughts?

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[Triples333]

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Likely for optics and to continue treatment with the staff.

By all accounts he has yet to step foot on a court, let alone ramp up to practice mode. He is not close, and I highly doubt he plays a game in the Finals seeing as he is not even doing shooting drills yet.

This series is going to be extremely close, and Toronto absolutely has the defense to slow down the shorthanded Warriors. It's a close enough series that it will come down to whether the role players are hitting their shots or not. Which we saw was the difference for Toronto over Milwaukee; Van Vleet's 3pt resurrection from dumpster to 'best in history' was enough to swing the series. Had he shot even 50% from 3 in the final 4 games, it's Bucks in 6.

[Jay 20]

I also find it hard to believe KD will play in Toronto even though he is traveling with the team. He won't be cleared and then be completely back to form. It'll take time. At this point I would be surprised to see him at all in this series and even if we do he will not be 100%.

[PizzaSteve]

just a what if scenario here, but if durant doesn't come back, and the raptors win the series, that means the core of steph + klay + green would be 1-2 in the finals w/o KD and the one win was a cavs team w/o irving + love. does it hurt their legacy? especially if kd leaves?

this post gave me an idea....why don't we go back and look at the history of the warriors pre-KD?

2013-14: 51 wins, lost 1st round

Curry (25): 36.5mpg, 28.3usg%, .225ws48, 7.4bpm --- PLYF: 42.3mpg, 23.1usg%, .131ws48, 3.7bpm
Dray (23): 21.9mpg, 14.8usg%, .119ws48, 2.8bpm ---- PLYF: 32.6mpg, 16.4usg%, .109ws48, 6.8bpm
Klay (23): 35.4mpg, 22.6usg%, .112ws48, 0.7bpm ---- PLYF: 36.7mpg, 20.5usg%, .045ws48, 0.6bpm
Iggy (30): 32.4mpg, 13.3usg%, .135ws48, 3.0bpm ---- PLYF: 35.4mpg, 16.7usg%, .049ws48, 1.3bpm
Lee (30): 33.2mpg, 24.3usg%, .160ws48, 0.8bpm ----- PLYF: 31.0mpg, 20.1usg%, .081ws48, 1.3bpm

Barnes (21): 28.3mpg, 16.8usg%, .070ws48, -1.4bpm - PLYF: 22.3mpg, 16.4usg%, .033ws48, -1.5bpm
O'Neal (35): 20.1mpg, 17.8usg%, .146ws48, -1.3bpm -- PLYF: 12.0mpg, 20.0usg%, .118ws48, -1.8bpm
Speights (26): 12.4mpg, 25.4usg%, .103ws48, -5.2bpm - PLYF: 9.7mpg, 27.1usg%, .146ws48, 1.5bpm

So the band was still young, but the band was all together at this point. Steph was already a super elite player, Klay was Klay, and Iggy was Iggy. Dray wasn't yet Dray during the regular season, but turned into Dray come playoffs. Lee was mediocre, the bench stunk. Unfortunately, this young team choked hard in the playoffs, led by Curry. Just poor performance across the board, except for the aforementioned Dray, the only guy to step up and he stepped up huge. This was also before they went all-in on their smallball lineup.


2014-15: 67wins, won Championship

Curry (26): 32.7mpg, 28.9usg%, .288ws48, 9.9bpm -------- PLYF: 39.3mpg, 31.0usg%, .228ws48, 8.7bpm
Dray (24): 31.5mpg, 17.2usg%, .163ws48, 5.0bpm --------- PLYF: 37.3mpg, 19.2usg%, .161ws48, 6.0bpm
Klay (24): 31.9mpg, 27.6usg%, .172ws48, 2.7bpm ---------- PLYF: 36.2mpg, 23.3usg%, .118ws48, 1.5bpm
Iggy (31): 26.9mpg, 13.3usg%, .117ws48, 1.6bpm ---------- PLYF: 30.2mpg, 15.1usg%, .170ws48, 4.1bpm
Barnes (22): 28.3mpg, 14.9usg%, .139ws48, 1.1bpm ------ PLYF: 32.4mpg, 15.6usg%, .115w48, 1.6bpm

Bogut (30): 23.6mpg, 13.2usg%, .159ws48, 4.1bpm -------- PLYF: 23.2mpg, 10.9usg%, .153ws48, 4.6bpm
Livingston (28): 18.8mpg, 15.9usg%, .107ws48, -1.7bpm -- PLYF: 17.9mpg, 13.3usg%, .118ws48, -0.5bpm
Barbosa (32): 14.9mpg, 20.5usg%, .137ws48, -0.8bpm ----- PLYF: 10.9mpg, 21.5usg%, .113ws48, -2.1bpm

Curry got even better. And now Dray joined him as a full time elite player. Klay actually had maybe his best year impact wise. And Iggy stepped up into Playoffs Iggy for the first time. Bogut being healthy again ended up being a bigtime impact add as well. And this time there was no choking come playoffs time. well, Klay choked a bit (though really his regular season may have been the career outlier here), but Iggy stepped up so large it didn;'t matter. Barnes actually looked like a useful player at this point too, though he was riding coattails.


2015-16: 73 wins, lost Finals

Curry (27): 34.2mpg, 32.6usg%, .318ws48, 12.5bpm ---------- PLYF: 34.1mpg, 32.1usg%, .152ws48, 6.4bpm
Dray (25): 34.7mpg, 18.8usg%, .190ws48, 5.8bpm ------------- PLYF: 38.2mpg, 18.9usg%, .171ws48, 7.1bpm
Klay (25): 33.3mpg, 26.3usg%, .144ws48, 0.7bpm ------------- PLYF: 35.4mpg, 28.0usg%, .142ws48, 2.8bpm
Iggy (32): 26.6mpg, 12.1usg%, .122ws48, 1.6bpm ------------- PLYF: 32.0mpg, 12.1usg%, .133ws48, 3.8bpm
Barnes (23): 30.9mpg, 15.9usg%, .116ws48, -0.2bpm --------- PLYF: 31.0mpg, 14.5usg%, .047ws48, -1.2bpm

Bogut (31): 20.7mpg, 11.4usg%, .180ws48, 4.5bpm ------------ PLYF: 16.6mpg, 12.3usg%, .194ws48, 7.4bpm
Livingston (29): 19.5mpg, 14.2usg%, .145ws48m, -0.5bpm --- PLYF: 21.4mpg, 18.2usg%, .108ws48, -0.7bpm
Barbosa (33): 15.9mpg, 18.1usg%, .091ws48, -2.1bpm -------- PLYF: 11.0mpg, 18.7usg%, .172ws48, 2.1bpm


Now this is pretty interesting. Curry went supernova this year, putting one of the elite impact seasons of all time. He was THE reason they won 73 games. Just amazing. But, looking at the numbers, I can't get past the fact that for the 2nd time in 3yrs, he kinda choked in the playoffs. He was still really damn good, but nowhere near what he was in the regular season. Dray and Iggy stepped up as usual in the playoffs again, and even Klay joined the party this time, but Steph just wasn't the same Steph in the playoffs, and that's probably whey they didn't win. In fact, the year they won is the only year where Stef maintained his super-elite regular season performance right through the playoffs.

Now we look at this year's team, without KD, and ask ourselves which of these three Warriors squads this year's team most closely resembles:

2018-19: 57 wins, in Finals

Curry (30): 33.8mpg, 30.4usg%, .199ws48, 6.3bpm -------- PLYF: 37.2mpg, 28.7usg%, .195ws48, 5.3bpm
Dray (28): 31.3mpg, 13.1usg%, .100ws48, 2.0bpm --------- PLYF: 37.7mpg, 17.5usg%, .139ws48, 5.7bpm
Klay (28): 34.0mpg, 25.6usg%, .095ws48, -0.8bpm --------- PLYF: 39.4mpg, 21.8usg%, .042ws48, -0.9bpm
Iggy (35): 23.2mpg, 10.4usg%, .129ws48, 1.9bpm ---------- PLYF: 29.4mpg, 13.6usg%, .152ws48. 5.1bpm
Cousins (28): 25.7mpg, 28.1usg%, .151ws48, 3.6bpm ------ PLYF: 12.5mpg, 34.3usg%, -.138ws48, -4.6bpm

Looney (22): 18.5mpg, 12.8usg%, .195ws48, 3.7bpm ------- PLYF: 20.5mpg, 11.6usg%, .209ws48, 4.8bpm
Livingston (33): 15.1mpg, 12.0usg%, .101ws48, -1.5bpm --- PLYF: 14.0mpg, 11.9usg%, .097ws48, -1.5bpm
McKinnie (26): 13.9mpg, 13.9usg%, .100ws48, -2.5bpm ---- PLYF: 11.1mpg, 11.9usg%, .087ws48, -3.5bpm

So I think everyone is prepared to concede that the warriors' regular season performance has to be taken with large doses of salt, as they weren't keeping their foot on the gas all year.

And indeed, we can see that clearly here - once again, Playoffs Dray and Playoffs Iggy have stepped up as always despite their poor regular seasons. Klay hasn't stepped up, though, and he is starting to look like he's gone from "good but overrated" to "kinda bad and still overrated".

What's interesting to me here again is Mr.Curry - once again he had a great regular season, but maybe not quite as high impact as the pre-KD years. The one year they won without KD, Curry was elite of elite in the playoffs - and this year he's not quite there. Of course, what makes it more interesting is that he sure as hell looked like he was there last series. So the question is can Curry go supernova against the raps like he did against the Blazers? I'd say he probably needs to, because there's less support than usual. Dray and Iggy are great as always, but Klay doesn't seem to be prime Klay anymore, and now of course with the injuries the depth beyond that looks spottier than usual as well.

If I had to say which previous Playoffs Warriors the current team most resembles based on these numbers, I'd have to say the '16 Warriors that lost in the finals - Curry looks very good but maybe not super-elite, Dray and Iggy both look great, the 5th starter is a big question mark and they have one big off the bench consistently having a good impact....they seem very similar player by player with one exception - Klay seems to be a noticably lesser player now than he was then.

Interesting take.

Not sure your read is accurate on Klay, Curry though. Stats are stats, but they both have improved the non scoring sides of their games significantly since 2015. Curry and Klay are both much better on defense, rebounding, setting screens. Klay had key defensive stops and blocks on all the warriors comebacks, often feeding Greenn as he went nova on pushing the ball late game, carried team early in 2 key games, when offense was sputtering, Curry 0 pts.

I dont think stats always properly measure impact on a game (see prev post on Klay shutting down Lilliard, but not being much in scoring side). Granted Lilliard was hurt, but he played very consistent winning ball, albiet inconsistent on shooting. That said, in crunch time both he and Curry, and Green hit their shots to come back and win. Iggy even was hurt at the end of game 4, and the core 3 got it done. Saying they pkayed poorly because of relative stat drops for small samples is over reaching IMHO. Interesting, but over reaching for a team real time adjusting to lineup shuffles. Klay is hurt most by lineup shuffles as his looks come most from the machine being well oiled (which it wasnt). The rest of his game was rock solid. Minimal turnovers and boxing out so the warriors dominated rb battle, were something the whole team did better than opponents and not on stat sheets other than in Wins. Greens usage went up as teams sold out defenses to stop splashes, so he and Iggy look a bit inflated too.

This series will be a unique challenge. Toronto has a great approach, the warriors a bit more adaptability to their gameplans. It may come down to coaching and role player performances. Of course if any star goes nova, that can decide games too. A hot Curry can be almost unbeatable, but how often that occurs is never certain, and doing that at playoff intensity is much harder, as some East rising stars discovered this year.

[RaptorHooter]

Durant is traveling with the team to Toronto according to Haynes.

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He's coming only to see Drake, he won't play.

Raps were his favourite team growing up, no way he misses the craziness.

[bon]

This series is going to be extremely close, and Toronto absolutely has the defense to slow down the shorthanded Warriors. It's a close enough series that it will come down to whether the role players are hitting their shots or not. Which we saw was the difference for Toronto over Milwaukee; Van Vleet's 3pt resurrection from dumpster to 'best in history' was enough to swing the series. Had he shot even 50% from 3 in the final 4 games, it's Bucks in 6.

Does Green make more than one 3 over the final 4 games in this scenario?

[Son Goku 25]

Raps in 1

Sick Avi

[Son Goku 25]

Ehh, I don't think we're on the same page at all. I don't think picking the Raptors to win is being cocky. It's the constant attacking of people picking the Warriors or people saying the Warriors might win this in 4 or 5 or 6 or w/e. I think Milwaukee was very overrated by Gen Board so I definitely agree with you there. The Raptors can definitely compete with the Warriors, KD or not. But it's not that crazy to claim the Warriors might dominate either considering well.. outside of the chokejob in 2016 might be the 4 time champions and the closest dynasty we've seen to the 90s Bulls and the 50/60's Celtics.

As per usual....

....fans of the Raptors saying their team can win = INSUFFERABLY COCKY

....fans of every other team saying their team will whomp the Raps = JUST BEING REASONABLE

I'm not really saying that at all. I think the Warriors are the lone exception in the entire league given how they've pretty much smacked around everyone for the last 4 years outside of Cleveland who almost needed a miracle themselves. If this almost any other team, I'd agree. If the Roles were reversed, I'd be saying the same thing. A team earns its reputation over several years -- especially one that might be the greatest team ever assembled (with or without Durant).

If raps can pull off the upset, it would be that much sweeter. Warriors are really the GOAT ever assembled.

[MikeM]

The Raptors have the personnel to make any adjustment necessary. If the Dubs are going to smash them, it's going to be with pure talent. They're the closest thing to the HOU defense of last year, you could even argue bigger and more versatile. If Gasol doesn't work, they'll go Ibaka. If Ibaka doesn't work they'll go Siakam.

You're not going to see a clown show like Portland bigs dropping into the paint on Curry PnR's, come on. If they have to switch everything they will, if they have to blitz they will, double they will, etc. They can do it all and Nurse will see and make the adjustment.

I really, really doubt you're going to see the Dubs win easily because the Raptors just can't match the schemes. It'll be because Curry is the GOAT or Durant comes back and shoots over everyone.