BaF Season Three: Offseason thread (Free Agency announcement- page 96)

[El Poochio]

At least Siakam doesnt have to worry about this, as I have cleared the decks for him..

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Time to extend Bamba %90 before knowing what rating sim gonna pull randomly out of its bag

Na never extending my players not a fan of this proposal, I will just manage my cap properly and re-sign them in the open market. I had liked what smash had proposed. Player like Zion and doncic should be making 300+ after there rookie deal is up..

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Ya If I lose them in open market so be it lol enjoyed the 3 years of sucking thanks to your shİt sim rating

[El Poochio]

How the hell I am supposed to know after 1 year I can build around this guy or not lol especially when sim has his rating totally unrelated with real life

Imagine making you decide after 1 year and having a sim a year behind lmao

The way it is, IMO, is that if you don't know after one year, then you still have a chance to offer an extension after year two. You can still keep the player for two additional years before UFA. This allows teams to clear cap space if necessary also. And if you still don't know after two years whether or not you want to build around someone, then you can still lock up that player for an additional year after his third season in the league. It just provides more options then a 3(4) year rookie deal. No one has to extend anyone.

I would guess that many teams from last years draft would like to lock up their draft pick for an additional three years right now. Some teams that drafted well and liked the rookie year will have the courage and foresight to extend a player. I understand if not everyone will do that.

But, feel free to vote no if you don't like it!

Just not a draft youth rewarding system now its even more punishing cuz you think you have this gold and you extend after 1 year and sim still doesnt recognizes him and you are in deeper grave

[El Poochio]

At least Siakam doesnt have to worry about this, as I have cleared the decks for him..

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Time to extend Bamba %90 before knowing what rating sim gonna pull randomly out of its bag

I get that you don't like the sim...just not sure exactly why? Looking at the standings, they are pretty close to how people thought they would go in our preseason power rankings. The stat leaders are also pretty close to what they are IRL.

Træ Young not averaging 100+ assists per game in my CJ Booker Kuzma super firepower offensive team is all the proof I need

[bringbackhoffa]

How the hell I am supposed to know after 1 year I can build around this guy or not lol especially when sim has his rating totally unrelated with real life

Imagine making you decide after 1 year and having a sim a year behind lmao

The way it is, IMO, is that if you don't know after one year, then you still have a chance to offer an extension after year two. You can still keep the player for two additional years before UFA. This allows teams to clear cap space if necessary also. And if you still don't know after two years whether or not you want to build around someone, then you can still lock up that player for an additional year after his third season in the league. It just provides more options then a 3(4) year rookie deal. No one has to extend anyone.

I would guess that many teams from last years draft would like to lock up their draft pick for an additional three years right now. Some teams that drafted well and liked the rookie year will have the courage and foresight to extend a player. I understand if not everyone will do that.

But, feel free to vote no if you don't like it!

Just not a draft youth rewarding system now its even more punishing cuz you think you have this gold and you extend after 1 year and sim still doesnt recognizes him and you are in deeper grave

The SiM does recognize for the most part it's just u cant have ingles as your starting centre..

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[Context]

Not sure if i like this proposal with the fact that we arnt allowed to go over the salary cap.

Imagine paying over 3/4 of your allowed salary cap on 1 player. 90% rule is going to kill people with high draft picks.

I think a Max contract should be created. 525 +4years is a max contract when resigning your own player. 490-500+ 3 years is the max a team could offer an UFA. (Numbers can be adjusted to whatever works best. Lesser years should be used since we dont know the longevity of this game)

I know we arnt playing with max contracts, but i think if we are going to implement a change involving money and exentions, we should just have a max contract. Would make things less complicated and less hectic.

Then...Maybe we should have the "60-70% contract extension" Where its a contract that is 60-70% of the max.

So if 525 is the max, around 370 would be this extension type.

A team could offer their player the 70% max if a UFA and the max an opposing team could offer is about 340 with 1 less year. Or they could offer the max which is 490-500 making the other team have to match and pay max money as well. The team drafting the player will always have the advantage giving the ability to sign at a higher value and an extra year as well.

There is no in between. Either u can offer the full max or the 60-70% max. Or you can offer 3 years 200 or 220 or 85 or 25 or whaver you want until you get to the higher pay grades (300+) Still making the game about bidding for players. Just when it comes to the higher tier of players, we should have set in stone contracts to make things less crazy.

I'm not sure I understand exactly what you're saying? Extensions, as proposed, can only be given to drafted players on their rookie contracts. So the #1 pick from last year Bagley, if he was given a max 90% extension, would still only be making $113 a year. This years #1 pick, if given a max extension after next season would be make $128 a year. If a team wants to extend these high draft picks and they have the cap space, how does it kill that team? No extensions really will ever be anywhere near $525 a year or 3/4 of your cap.

am i missing something? isnt the#1 picks salary at $200? am i looking at the wrong list?

[DOT]

I vote yes

Just to get this through so we can discuss possible alterations later on

[El Poochio]

The way it is, IMO, is that if you don't know after one year, then you still have a chance to offer an extension after year two. You can still keep the player for two additional years before UFA. This allows teams to clear cap space if necessary also. And if you still don't know after two years whether or not you want to build around someone, then you can still lock up that player for an additional year after his third season in the league. It just provides more options then a 3(4) year rookie deal. No one has to extend anyone.

I would guess that many teams from last years draft would like to lock up their draft pick for an additional three years right now. Some teams that drafted well and liked the rookie year will have the courage and foresight to extend a player. I understand if not everyone will do that.

But, feel free to vote no if you don't like it!

Just not a draft youth rewarding system now its even more punishing cuz you think you have this gold and you extend after 1 year and sim still doesnt recognizes him and you are in deeper grave

The SiM does recognize for the most part it's just u cant have ingles as your starting centre..

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I bet if you put Giannis at 5 you would do shİt in sim which is league breaking formula

[Smash3]

I vote no

[El Poochio]

Just no meaningful explanation on why having to decide after 1 year while using sim that is year behind

[bringbackhoffa]

Not sure if i like this proposal with the fact that we arnt allowed to go over the salary cap.

Imagine paying over 3/4 of your allowed salary cap on 1 player. 90% rule is going to kill people with high draft picks.

I think a Max contract should be created. 525 +4years is a max contract when resigning your own player. 490-500+ 3 years is the max a team could offer an UFA. (Numbers can be adjusted to whatever works best. Lesser years should be used since we dont know the longevity of this game)

I know we arnt playing with max contracts, but i think if we are going to implement a change involving money and exentions, we should just have a max contract. Would make things less complicated and less hectic.

Then...Maybe we should have the "60-70% contract extension" Where its a contract that is 60-70% of the max.

So if 525 is the max, around 370 would be this extension type.

A team could offer their player the 70% max if a UFA and the max an opposing team could offer is about 340 with 1 less year. Or they could offer the max which is 490-500 making the other team have to match and pay max money as well. The team drafting the player will always have the advantage giving the ability to sign at a higher value and an extra year as well.

There is no in between. Either u can offer the full max or the 60-70% max. Or you can offer 3 years 200 or 220 or 85 or 25 or whaver you want until you get to the higher pay grades (300+) Still making the game about bidding for players. Just when it comes to the higher tier of players, we should have set in stone contracts to make things less crazy.

I'm not sure I understand exactly what you're saying? Extensions, as proposed, can only be given to drafted players on their rookie contracts. So the #1 pick from last year Bagley, if he was given a max 90% extension, would still only be making $113 a year. This years #1 pick, if given a max extension after next season would be make $128 a year. If a team wants to extend these high draft picks and they have the cap space, how does it kill that team? No extensions really will ever be anywhere near $525 a year or 3/4 of your cap.

am i missing something? isnt the#1 picks salary at $200? am i looking at the wrong list?

Nah it's like $50-60

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[El Poochio]

You say dont extend if you dont like but with this rule you are taking away helpful and meaningful way to implement extensions that will invite people to invest in young players and be patient developing

Change the rookie contracts then it doesnt have to be extensions make the contracts longer

[King of Canada]

Still a bargain if u have the capspace to lock in a player for $110 a year following his rookie season as u lock him up for 7 more years. Manage your cap better!

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Unless Lebron James horrible lol

But anything making people waste their money more is better for me

Better for you like Devin Booger on a $400 contract? Trae is a clear player to lock up on an extension now. If you don’t have the cap space do it for two years or wait until next year and do it then if you decide to make a move for cap space. I think it makes sense. KPs contract is killing me but I made some other moves for future space.

[El Poochio]

Someone tell me whats the point of drafting Cam Reddish in top 5 Kevin Knox in top 10 with their already huge hit in salary lol

[Context]

I'm not sure I understand exactly what you're saying? Extensions, as proposed, can only be given to drafted players on their rookie contracts. So the #1 pick from last year Bagley, if he was given a max 90% extension, would still only be making $113 a year. This years #1 pick, if given a max extension after next season would be make $128 a year. If a team wants to extend these high draft picks and they have the cap space, how does it kill that team? No extensions really will ever be anywhere near $525 a year or 3/4 of your cap.

am i missing something? isnt the#1 picks salary at $200? am i looking at the wrong list?

Nah it's like $50-60

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what list are you going off of?

[El Poochio]

Still a bargain if u have the capspace to lock in a player for $110 a year following his rookie season as u lock him up for 7 more years. Manage your cap better!

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Unless Lebron James horrible lol

But anything making people waste their money more is better for me

Better for you like Devin Booger on a $400 contract? Trae is a clear player to lock up on an extension now. If you don’t have the cap space do it for two years or wait until next year and do it then if you decide to make a move for cap space. I think it makes sense. KPs contract is killing me but I made some other moves for future space.

Huh?

Just tell me whats the point of drafting a 18 year old player for future upside

[Knicksfan20]

Not sure if i like this proposal with the fact that we arnt allowed to go over the salary cap.

Imagine paying over 3/4 of your allowed salary cap on 1 player. 90% rule is going to kill people with high draft picks.

I think a Max contract should be created. 525 +4years is a max contract when resigning your own player. 490-500+ 3 years is the max a team could offer an UFA. (Numbers can be adjusted to whatever works best. Lesser years should be used since we dont know the longevity of this game)

I know we arnt playing with max contracts, but i think if we are going to implement a change involving money and exentions, we should just have a max contract. Would make things less complicated and less hectic.

Then...Maybe we should have the "60-70% contract extension" Where its a contract that is 60-70% of the max.

So if 525 is the max, around 370 would be this extension type.

A team could offer their player the 70% max if a UFA and the max an opposing team could offer is about 340 with 1 less year. Or they could offer the max which is 490-500 making the other team have to match and pay max money as well. The team drafting the player will always have the advantage giving the ability to sign at a higher value and an extra year as well.

There is no in between. Either u can offer the full max or the 60-70% max. Or you can offer 3 years 200 or 220 or 85 or 25 or whaver you want until you get to the higher pay grades (300+) Still making the game about bidding for players. Just when it comes to the higher tier of players, we should have set in stone contracts to make things less crazy.

I'm not sure I understand exactly what you're saying? Extensions, as proposed, can only be given to drafted players on their rookie contracts. So the #1 pick from last year Bagley, if he was given a max 90% extension, would still only be making $113 a year. This years #1 pick, if given a max extension after next season would be make $128 a year. If a team wants to extend these high draft picks and they have the cap space, how does it kill that team? No extensions really will ever be anywhere near $525 a year or 3/4 of your cap.

I read your example wrong. I saw 700 for however many years. I guess the 700 was the total value with the years included. Not 700 per year. My mistake.

[bishnykfan]

am i missing something? isnt the#1 picks salary at $200? am i looking at the wrong list?

Nah it's like $50-60

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what list are you going off of?

2019
Draft Slot Salary

1 3/67 $201 total
2 3/60 $180 total
3 3/54 $162 total
4 3/48 $144 total
5 3/44 $132 total
6 3/40 $120 total
7 3/36 $108 total
8 3/33 $99 total
9 3/30 $90 total
10 3/29 $87 total
11 3/27 $81 total
12 3/26 $78 total
13 3/25 $75 total
14 3/23 $69 total
15 3/22 $66 total
16 3/21 $63 total
17 3/20 $60 total
18 3/19 $57 total
19 3/18 $54 total
20 3/17 $51 total
21 3/17 $51 total
22 3/16 $48 total
23 3/15 $45 total
24 3/15 $45 total
25 3/14 $42 total
26 3/14 $42 total
27 3/13 $39 total
28 3/13 $39 total
29 3/13 $39 total
30 3/13 $39 total

31 2/12 $24 total
32 2/12 $24 total
33 2/12 $24 total
34 2/11 $22 total
35 2/11 $22 total
36 2/11 $22 total
37 2/10 $20 total
38 2/10 $20 total
39 2/10 $20 total
40 2/9 $18 total
41 2/9 $18 total
42 2/9 $18 total
43 2/8 $16 total
44 2/8 $16 total
45 2/8 $16 total
46 2/7 $14 total
47 2/7 $14 total
48 2/7 $14 total
49 2/6 $12 total
50 2/6 $12 total
51 2/5 $10 total
52 2/5 $10 total
53 2/4 $8 total
54 2/4 $8 total
55 2/3 $6 total
56 2/3 $6 total
57 2/2 $4 total
58 2/2 $4 total
59 2/1 $2 total
60 2/1 $2 total


#1 pick is $67 a year for 3 years ($201 total value of contract before deciding on the fourth year option).

[El Poochio]

You want the dude give Bagley 100+ a year before he even sees how NBA Bagley would be reflected in sim

This would be acceptable if ratings were updated through year according to real life, at least make it possible after second year so his first year in NBA would be in sim

Still dont see why anyone would waste high pick allocate salary to undeveloped needing time youth though since you wont be able to extend

[bishnykfan]

Someone tell me whats the point of drafting Cam Reddish in top 5 Kevin Knox in top 10 with their already huge hit in salary lol

It is the exact salary that draft picks get IRL proportionally adjusted to our salary cap.

[Context]

Nah it's like $50-60

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what list are you going off of?

2019
Draft Slot Salary

1 3/67 $201 total
2 3/60 $180 total
3 3/54 $162 total
4 3/48 $144 total
5 3/44 $132 total
6 3/40 $120 total
7 3/36 $108 total
8 3/33 $99 total
9 3/30 $90 total
10 3/29 $87 total
11 3/27 $81 total
12 3/26 $78 total
13 3/25 $75 total
14 3/23 $69 total
15 3/22 $66 total
16 3/21 $63 total
17 3/20 $60 total
18 3/19 $57 total
19 3/18 $54 total
20 3/17 $51 total
21 3/17 $51 total
22 3/16 $48 total
23 3/15 $45 total
24 3/15 $45 total
25 3/14 $42 total
26 3/14 $42 total
27 3/13 $39 total
28 3/13 $39 total
29 3/13 $39 total
30 3/13 $39 total

31 2/12 $24 total
32 2/12 $24 total
33 2/12 $24 total
34 2/11 $22 total
35 2/11 $22 total
36 2/11 $22 total
37 2/10 $20 total
38 2/10 $20 total
39 2/10 $20 total
40 2/9 $18 total
41 2/9 $18 total
42 2/9 $18 total
43 2/8 $16 total
44 2/8 $16 total
45 2/8 $16 total
46 2/7 $14 total
47 2/7 $14 total
48 2/7 $14 total
49 2/6 $12 total
50 2/6 $12 total
51 2/5 $10 total
52 2/5 $10 total
53 2/4 $8 total
54 2/4 $8 total
55 2/3 $6 total
56 2/3 $6 total
57 2/2 $4 total
58 2/2 $4 total
59 2/1 $2 total
60 2/1 $2 total


#1 pick is $67 a year for 3 years ($201 total value of contract before deciding on the fourth year option).

but the cap hit is $67?