Kyrie Irving Goodbye Thread

[ddb]

I have no interest in one year of AD. Isn't one year of "will he stay or will he go" enough for you?

Go get AD. Kyrie will stay, especially after KD just tore his ACL. Kyrie is taking that 5 year max deal bro. Boston fans are the best in the world. Best sports city in the world. AD will stay

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Very possibly. Lakers are going to have to add cap-killing contracts this summer to keep LeBron happy.

I'm so sick of LeBron. I honestly dont think stars truly want to play with him anyone either. AD is being brainwashed by Klutch. Klutch doesn't care about AD. They care about LeBron. They have literally tried EVERYTHING. Magic Johnson couldn't even deal with the circus. Just wait for like 5-7 years from now when they have a 30/30 on this crap.
Ainge just needs to get AD. That's the goal. Build it out quickly this summer from there

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[sully00]

Either way he's playing for a new team. No way we'd re-sign him and stay pat. Also the media is very ESPN driven and they tend to follow narratives dictated from the top and regurgitate it on all their shows and platforms. We'll know how it all shakes down in short order.

Losing a perennial all-star for nothing is never a good thing.

It's a great thing in this case.

Kyrie just isn't that good. His game is significantly flawed. He's selfish on offense, dances with the ball way too much, and mediocre at best on defense.

Watch Kawhi Leonard play. He gets the ball and makes his move. He shoots it, heads for the rim or passes to a teammate. There is no wasted time or motion. He reacts immediately. He's light years ahead of Kyrie as an offensive player, never mind defense and rebounding. And that's on top of Kyrie's obvious failure as a leader. In fact he alienated the young players; his influence was negative.

It astonishes me that people who otherwise seem to have normal intelligence continue to overrate the guy.

We'll put aside arguments over whether this team is better off with him or not. Given he's probably gone anyway it is probably academic.

He has very high perceived value in the league. If we had offered him straight up to SA for Kawhi they would've jumped all over that. Even getting 50 percent of Kyrie's perceived worth would have been a home run. Given how fast Danny has been to offer players he sees as slight risks in trades it seems head scratching that Danny did not better explore the market at the trade deadline.

I suggested awhile back tongue in cheek but if we weren't getting AD just to screw with everyone else we should send KI to New Orleans for Jrue and a future first rounder (obviously not Zion this year). That's better than what we're faced with getting right now. Nothing.

I am pretty sure we did offer him for Kawhi and they laughed.

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[MagicBagley18]

Either way he's playing for a new team. No way we'd re-sign him and stay pat. Also the media is very ESPN driven and they tend to follow narratives dictated from the top and regurgitate it on all their shows and platforms. We'll know how it all shakes down in short order.

Losing a perennial all-star for nothing is never a good thing.

It's a great thing in this case.

Kyrie just isn't that good. His game is significantly flawed. He's selfish on offense, dances with the ball way too much, and mediocre at best on defense.

Watch Kawhi Leonard play. He gets the ball and makes his move. He shoots it, heads for the rim or passes to a teammate. There is no wasted time or motion. He reacts immediately. He's light years ahead of Kyrie as an offensive player, never mind defense and rebounding. And that's on top of Kyrie's obvious failure as a leader. In fact he alienated the young players; his influence was negative.

It astonishes me that people who otherwise seem to have normal intelligence continue to overrate the guy.

Willing to bet that you didn’t want kawhi last summer bc he “quit on the friggin’ spurs “ was damaged goods and JB was the new kawhi. I will gladly eat crow if wrong.

[SmartWentCrazy]

I have no interest in one year of AD. Isn't one year of "will he stay or will he go" enough for you?

Go get AD. Kyrie will stay, especially after KD just tore his ACL. Kyrie is taking that 5 year max deal bro. Boston fans are the best in the world. Best sports city in the world. AD will stay

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I do wonder if Kyrie’s best friend will tell him to take the bag and sign for as long/much as possible following this.

[MagicBagley18]

Go get AD. Kyrie will stay, especially after KD just tore his ACL. Kyrie is taking that 5 year max deal bro. Boston fans are the best in the world. Best sports city in the world. AD will stay

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Very possibly. Lakers are going to have to add cap-killing contracts this summer to keep LeBron happy.

I'm so sick of LeBron. I honestly dont think stars truly want to play with him anyone either. AD is being brainwashed by Klutch. Klutch doesn't care about AD. They care about LeBron. They have literally tried EVERYTHING. Magic Johnson couldn't even deal with the circus. Just wait for like 5-7 years from now when they have a 30/30 on this crap.
Ainge just needs to get AD. That's the goal. Build it out quickly this summer from there

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Hard to say this when AD is demanding a trade to play with him as we speak. Brainwash or not he chose klutch sports. I’m sure a huge part of that pitch was getting him out of NO and to a market like LA where Lebron plays. He knew what the decision meant when he decided to be repped by them. He is def getting manipulated but he was down to go along with the ride and has only been more adamant the entire time- he could tell RP at anytime open the list up to more teams he hasn’t.

[chrisab123]

I have no interest in one year of AD. Isn't one year of "will he stay or will he go" enough for you?

Go get AD. Kyrie will stay, especially after KD just tore his ACL. Kyrie is taking that 5 year max deal bro. Boston fans are the best in the world. Best sports city in the world. AD will stay

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I do wonder if Kyrie’s best friend will tell him to take the bag and sign for as long/much as possible following this.

Its curious. All bets are off with the torn Achilles. As much as Kyrie wants to leave does he leave for a situation that's an actual downgrade? The only plausible situation is that he goes back to LeBron.

[amory87]

The Durant thing is a real shame and I feel very bad for the guy going into this summer. He tried to be there for his guys, and an Achilles tear is a terrible injury.

That said, I have no idea what happens now in free agency. This is a complete wild card wrench thrown in everyone's plans, and I have to imagine it favors KD staying with the Warriors after all. Especially if they lose to the Raptors without him (and I think they will).

So where does that leave Kyrie if he can't play with Durant? All of a sudden playing without a bunch of the young guys in Boston and playing with AD instead probably will look very appealing. The question is what the relationship is like between him and the Celtics at this point. It seems fractured at the very least, but I'm sure Danny has been doing his job to try to hold things together until free agency actually starts.

Very interesting development last night, even though it sucked that it happened.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

The universe has spoken, Kyrie. You were meant to stay in Boston.

[yeahM8]

pls go to brooklyn or LA.

or if he stays lets make it on the condition that perk becomes his minder or at least an assistant coach.

[Celts17Pride]

The universe has spoken, Kyrie. You were meant to stay in Boston.

Boo!

[Curmudgeon]

It's a great thing in this case.

Kyrie just isn't that good. His game is significantly flawed. He's selfish on offense, dances with the ball way too much, and mediocre at best on defense.

Watch Kawhi Leonard play. He gets the ball and makes his move. He shoots it, heads for the rim or passes to a teammate. There is no wasted time or motion. He reacts immediately. He's light years ahead of Kyrie as an offensive player, never mind defense and rebounding. And that's on top of Kyrie's obvious failure as a leader. In fact he alienated the young players; his influence was negative.

It astonishes me that people who otherwise seem to have normal intelligence continue to overrate the guy.

We'll put aside arguments over whether this team is better off with him or not. Given he's probably gone anyway it is probably academic.

He has very high perceived value in the league. If we had offered him straight up to SA for Kawhi they would've jumped all over that. Even getting 50 percent of Kyrie's perceived worth would have been a home run. Given how fast Danny has been to offer players he sees as slight risks in trades it seems head scratching that Danny did not better explore the market at the trade deadline.

I suggested awhile back tongue in cheek but if we weren't getting AD just to screw with everyone else we should send KI to New Orleans for Jrue and a future first rounder (obviously not Zion this year). That's better than what we're faced with getting right now. Nothing.

I am pretty sure we did offer him for Kawhi and they laughed.

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Yes, I believe they did. But Pop was having none of Uncle Drew.

[FlatearthZorro]

pls go to brooklyn or LA.

or if he stays lets make it on the condition that perk becomes his minder or at least an assistant coach.

Perk would go from 0 to 100 with Kyrie real quick.

[sully00]

The hardest part of all this is that we could be talking about nonsense. It is just as likely that Irving is already agreed to re-sign and they are working the Davis deal and the Lakers know it and they are defenseless to do anything about it because the player they are trying to feature in the deal Ingram is injured. More importantly NOLA's owner apparently wants him dealt somewhere besides LAL and in all of the crap that gets thrown around in these conversations that is bottom line kind of stuff.

If the same people that told you Durant and Irving were a lock for the Knicks done deal are telling you that he is going to BRK now they are full of ****.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

The hardest part of all this is that we could be talking about nonsense. It is just as likely that Irving is already agreed to re-sign and they are working the Davis deal and the Lakers know it and they are defenseless to do anything about it because the player they are trying to feature in the deal Ingram is injured. More importantly NOLA's owner apparently wants him dealt somewhere besides LAL and in all of the crap that gets thrown around in these conversations that is bottom line kind of stuff.

If the same people that told you Durant and Irving were a lock for the Knicks done deal are telling you that he is going to BRK now they are full of ****.

That is a very good point. If that report about the Pels valuing Tatum is true, then it could be similar to KG/Al Jefferson. When the Celtics made the first offer prior to the draft, it was #5, Al, and filler. When we used #5 for Ray Allen, people kept hinting that a KG trade could still happen, and as Gorman said, Ainge was just waiting for "the other shoe to drop". I didn't think it was possible that the Wolves would do the deal with Jefferson being the best piece in the trade. As it turns out, Kevin McHale was obsessed with Big Al. Let's hope that Griffin is just as obsessed with Tatum as McHale was about Jefferson.

[Gooner]

We'll put aside arguments over whether this team is better off with him or not. Given he's probably gone anyway it is probably academic.

He has very high perceived value in the league. If we had offered him straight up to SA for Kawhi they would've jumped all over that. Even getting 50 percent of Kyrie's perceived worth would have been a home run. Given how fast Danny has been to offer players he sees as slight risks in trades it seems head scratching that Danny did not better explore the market at the trade deadline.

I suggested awhile back tongue in cheek but if we weren't getting AD just to screw with everyone else we should send KI to New Orleans for Jrue and a future first rounder (obviously not Zion this year). That's better than what we're faced with getting right now. Nothing.

I am pretty sure we did offer him for Kawhi and they laughed.

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Yes, I believe they did. But Pop was having none of Uncle Drew.

No they didn't lol. You think Pop would rather take DeRozan over Kyrie? No chance.

[Gooner]

The hardest part of all this is that we could be talking about nonsense. It is just as likely that Irving is already agreed to re-sign and they are working the Davis deal and the Lakers know it and they are defenseless to do anything about it because the player they are trying to feature in the deal Ingram is injured. More importantly NOLA's owner apparently wants him dealt somewhere besides LAL and in all of the crap that gets thrown around in these conversations that is bottom line kind of stuff.

If the same people that told you Durant and Irving were a lock for the Knicks done deal are telling you that he is going to BRK now they are full of ****.

That is a very good point. If that report about the Pels valuing Tatum is true, then it could be similar to KG/Al Jefferson. When the Celtics made the first offer prior to the draft, it was #5, Al, and filler. When we used #5 for Ray Allen, people kept hinting that a KG trade could still happen, and as Gorman said, Ainge was just waiting for "the other shoe to drop". I didn't think it was possible that the Wolves would do the deal with Jefferson being the best piece in the trade. As it turns out, Kevin McHale was obsessed with Big Al. Let's hope that Griffin is just as obsessed with Tatum as McHale was about Jefferson.

Kevin McHale wanted to help Celtics. David Griffin might want to help LeBron. And Adam Silver.

[Andrew McCeltic]

The latest report on Griffin’s expectations is just calculated to squeeze every team - no one can offer a young all star, a potential all star, and picks - and I don’t think anyone can get all three by trade.

It tells us he wants Tatum and the MEM pick along with Smart.

[sully00]

I am pretty sure we did offer him for Kawhi and they laughed.

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Yes, I believe they did. But Pop was having none of Uncle Drew.

No they didn't lol. You think Pop would rather take DeRozan over Kyrie? No chance.

Yeah because DeRozan is signed for another two years plus an option. Trading for Kyrie puts them in the exact same position they were in with Leonard contract wise. What don't you understand?

SA wanted to stay relevant and competitive it worked they had a top 10 offense and made the playoffs. They have a young PG they like in Murray and suitable stand in's they needed a star wing and got one.

[Gooner]

Yes, I believe they did. But Pop was having none of Uncle Drew.

No they didn't lol. You think Pop would rather take DeRozan over Kyrie? No chance.

Yeah because DeRozan is signed for another two years plus an option. Trading for Kyrie puts them in the exact same position they were in with Leonard contract wise. What don't you understand?

SA wanted to stay relevant and competitive it worked they had a top 10 offense and made the playoffs. They have a young PG they like in Murray and suitable stand in's they needed a star wing and got one.

I just don't think Kyrie was ever in the offer for Kawhi. But if he was, it would be him and Jaylen Brown. Spurs would take that.

[sully00]

The hardest part of all this is that we could be talking about nonsense. It is just as likely that Irving is already agreed to re-sign and they are working the Davis deal and the Lakers know it and they are defenseless to do anything about it because the player they are trying to feature in the deal Ingram is injured. More importantly NOLA's owner apparently wants him dealt somewhere besides LAL and in all of the crap that gets thrown around in these conversations that is bottom line kind of stuff.

If the same people that told you Durant and Irving were a lock for the Knicks done deal are telling you that he is going to BRK now they are full of ****.

That is a very good point. If that report about the Pels valuing Tatum is true, then it could be similar to KG/Al Jefferson. When the Celtics made the first offer prior to the draft, it was #5, Al, and filler. When we used #5 for Ray Allen, people kept hinting that a KG trade could still happen, and as Gorman said, Ainge was just waiting for "the other shoe to drop". I didn't think it was possible that the Wolves would do the deal with Jefferson being the best piece in the trade. As it turns out, Kevin McHale was obsessed with Big Al. Let's hope that Griffin is just as obsessed with Tatum as McHale was about Jefferson.

Kevin McHale wanted to help Celtics. David Griffin might want to help LeBron. And Adam Silver.

You seem to have off reading on this situation. David Griffin isn't in love with Lebron, the fact that he wouldn't commit to CLE cost Griffin his job. From the New Orleans perspective the hiring of Griffin was more bad news for the Lakers. Adam Silver doesn't want Davis in LAL it doesn't help the brand the way some people think. Silver wants 7 game series in every round, he wants super stars not super teams. More importantly he doesn't want small market teams to look like they are getting raped by large market teams. In the end there are a lot more small market owners than large market owners and that is who Silver has to answer to.