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2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast.

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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast. 

Post#1961 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:00 am

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Mecca wrote:DLo is 23 years old guys. You blend him with Mitch and RJ and you suddenly have a fun core, 35 million in cap space, and all your picks as well as 2 Orlando picks.

I would spend the rest of our money taking on contracts that come with first rounders. Add DLo to the core and acquire more first rounders.

My man.


As long as you keep one max spot open I’m into this idea. My only concern with Dlo is that this season was a produce of Atkinson’s system. Outside of Kawhi most players that left the Spurs system we’re way worse.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast. 

Post#1962 » by Thugger HBC » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:00 am

I doubt the Knicks would go that route. Honestly I wouldn't be opposed to signing D-lo. I don't think he's a max level player now, but I do think he could grow into such a deal.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast. 

Post#1963 » by drekwins » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:01 am

B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
Wonderllama wrote:Nets can get KD too right?

I think it happens

I did that calc as well in the last thread. Can't be bothered to look it up, but I *think* they were about $1.3m short of being able to max both KD+KI (assuming they waive/don't take up everything possible, including DLo). Maybe Kyrie pays that? Idk. It's "his" boyhood team.


Post your calculations. I'm serious. I am 100% certain it checks out (coming from an accountant).
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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast. 

Post#1964 » by Mecca » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:01 am

jvsimonetti0514 wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:
Mecca wrote:DLo is 23 years old guys. You blend him with Mitch and RJ and you suddenly have a fun core, 35 million in cap space, and all your picks as well as 2 Orlando picks.

I would spend the rest of our money taking on contracts that come with first rounders. Add DLo to the core and acquire more first rounders.

My man.


As long as you keep one max spot open I’m into this idea. My only concern with Dlo is that this season was a produce of Atkinson’s system. Outside of Kawhi most players that left the Spurs system we’re way worse.


His system isn’t anything crazy. It’s run and shoot the 3 lol.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast. 

Post#1965 » by RShahNyC89 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:02 am

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RShahNyC89 wrote:If Nets sign Kyrie, they can re-up DLo right?

Yes

If they sign Kyrie and Butler or Kyrie and Harris, then Russel is a FA?

Yes, they have to free themselves of his cap-hold to sign two 30%-FAs

I honestly would sign him to a max. I think his contract projects better than Kyries for the next 4 years and moving forward.

I even did some math and if you trade DSJr, Knox, 2020 Knicks 1st and the 2021 Mavs 1st for Beal, then we'd have a max slot open for Giannis/Towns/etc in 2021.

Allegedly Washington was willing to trade Beal for RJ+Frank+2020-NYK-FRP. I don't think DSJ+Knox cut it, but who knows. Either way it seems terribly cheap for Beal. It's hard to see that deal straight up - but maybe I'm really wrong here.

Anyway, sure. If you take on no salary beyond 2021 you have loads of space in 2021. But why are Giannis, Towns etc going to be interested in coming to a team that is for two years Beal + the kids + (doesn't matter as they go to open the cap space)?


Well for one, you'd have to show that Beal/Barret/Mitch and DLo are better supporting cast than Middleton and Brogdon or Wiggins and ?

I think both of those are 100% true. Also Towns is a local kid and fits with Mitch like a glove. I can't think of a better fit tbh lol.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast. 

Post#1966 » by god shammgod » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:02 am

KnicksGod wrote:Not seeing the connection with ROC and Nets. Jay is a Knicks fan at heart and sold his share in the Nets.


plus it's sort of a conflict of interest. why would you want an agent from a company who also works with a specific franchise you might sign with ? you want someone who only has your interest at heart.
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Post#1967 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:03 am

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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast. 

Post#1968 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:04 am

Juggynaut wrote:I don't know why the Nets are fascinated with Tobias Harris, I'll rather keep DLo. Kyrie + Jimmy is solid.

I don't really see why the Nets don't go for DLo + one of Harris or Butler. Maybe Butler would think that beneath him, but Harris maybe not. And it gives them more room to get complementary pieces.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast. 

Post#1969 » by Thugger HBC » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:05 am

god shammgod wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:Not seeing the connection with ROC and Nets. Jay is a Knicks fan at heart and sold his share in the Nets.


plus it's sort of a conflict of interest. why would you want an agent from a company who also works with a specific franchise you might sign with ? you want someone who only has your interest at heart.

This is Kyrie we're talking about. Is it surprising? is it?
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Post#1970 » by Worst_to_First » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:06 am

god shammgod wrote:anybody know how the 2020 draft is looking ? how deep is it ? lol


If we miss out on James Wiseman and Anthony Edwards there are 3 strong PGs in the draft that could replace DSJ if things don’t work out - RJ Hampton, Cole Anthony and Theo Maledon.
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Post#1971 » by tuna108 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:07 am

Thugger HBC wrote:I doubt the Knicks would go that route. Honestly I wouldn't be opposed to signing D-lo. I don't think he's a max level player now, but I do think he could grow into such a deal.


He will be the new Tommy...bad contract from day 1
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Post#1972 » by Capn'O » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:11 am

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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread - Well. That went downhill fast. 

Post#1973 » by Jeff Van Gully » Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:12 am

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aromeoj wrote:
Surgery tomorrow for KD torn achilles...knicks need to sign him on a cheap 1 year deal.


can you stop?


Was just trying to let ppl know what was happening...


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