2019 free agency and trade ideas: part 2 Downloading

[Wilber85]

Wilber, you would save a lot of time by puting "You're all crazy" in your signature so you don't have to write it in your every post.

Y’all * good advice though. It only is happening during this time because everyone and their mom is obsessed with T. rex arms Clarke .

I want him if we were 12-30 but not 6

No more rookies , we need to trade 6

[mg]

They could also trade Tyler+JJ for JR+Dellevedova. Waive JR and instantly shave $12 mil off the cap in the deal. Save another $6.4 mil this season if they stretch Delly.
Throw in the Bucks pick or #32 as sweetener to Cavs.
I think the main key is to offer Russell a max type deal on Day 1 giving the Nets less chance to match it while they're off chasing the Kyrie's and KD's of the world.

[Ghost of Kleine]

No Patrick Beverley option??

Read on Twitter

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[Qwigglez]

Couple reasons I suggested trading for KAT. He can open up the floor, he has a good relationship with Booker, it would be super easy to convince DLo to come to Phoenix with his two best friends. Trading the 6th pick, Jackson, Warren along with Ayton just gives us the cap flexibility to get DLo. We’d still have our entire starting five set for the next decade, guys who are all the same age and enjoy playing with each other.

[RaisingArizona]

Ayton could be better than Towns. But he could also not be. Just like many here didn't want to trade JJ for Kyrie. At some point, the Suns need better players in the now. Can't keep clinging onto potential of the future.

[NapoleonII]

I'm advocating for D'Angelo because he's a baller, a shooter, a 23 year old all-star and I'd still advocate for signing him even if DBooker and him were enemies.

Who cares about friendships? This isn't Degrassi.



(And no to KAT, we've got a cheaper version of him with less miles and more hope of playing defense)

[RaisingArizona]

KAT is way better than Ayton right now. Just wanted to clarify that for everyone.

[dremill24]

When did Ayton get on KAT’s level?

[bwgood77]

Wilber, you would save a lot of time by puting "You're all crazy" in your signature so you don't have to write it in your every post.

Y’all * good advice though. It only is happening during this time because everyone and their mom is obsessed with T. rex arms Clarke .

I want him if we were 12-30 but not 6

No more rookies , we need to trade 6

And last summer it was only because a lot of people wanted Doncic. And some wanted Van Vleet. And there have been a few others this summer you've commented on.

[bwgood77]

I know someone closed to the Minnesota front office that is pretty convinced Minnesota will do all they can to get Russell if Brooklyn renounces him...that their front office loves him, the whole Towns/Russell best friends thing, etc

The Minnesota Timberwolves might be making a play for D’Angelo Russell. After rumors first surfaced last week about the team’s interest in the Brooklyn Nets star, The Athletic’s John Krawczynski reports that Minnesota general manager Gersson Rosas and vice president of basketball Sachin Gupta have taken an “aggressive” approach to finding means of acquiring him.

“Officials with teams around the league already are noticing an aggressiveness in engagement, league sources told The Athletic. And with Rosas and Gupta at the top of the food chain, most believe that any and all options will be considered when it comes to reshaping the roster around Towns, who has been less clandestine about his feelings toward Russell.”

https://clutchpoints.com/timberwolves-rumors-teams-noticing-aggressiveness-in-engagement-from-wolves-about-nets-dangelo-russell/

[SunsLyf3]

Renouncing to cap holds of Bender, Daniels, King, Crawford AND stretching TJ will give us around 27. That's W/O trading JJ and TJ. Agree to a deal with Holmes to return as backup center. He's too good of a player to release just to save 1.5 mill. If he gets a crazy offer from another team so be it but I think he would want to resign with us. I'm still on the boat of first trying to S&T DLo for draft rights of #6 prospect, Melton(would be a good backup for Kyrie with his 3&D capabilities). However if BK renounces to his rights we can just sign him and use #6, Bucks pick and TJ or JJ to try to upgrade PF via trade. We would still have MLE and Bi Annual exception. Trade package I would pursue IF we sign Russell W/O a S&T would be Aaron Gordon, DJ Augustine(exp 7 mill) for Rights to #6 overall prospect, Bucks pick, Melton, Spalding, TJ. That should get us pretty close being within 25% of the incoming salary. We need to wait until new league year since Aaron Gordons contract declines in salary each year and it would make it easier to accomplish. Handshake deal on draft night and complete it/announce it after signing Russell.

Russell/Augustine
Booker/Bridges
Oubre/JJ
Gordon/
Ayton/Holmes

I believe we would still have MLE(just above 9 mill) and Bi Annual exception. Bring back Bender and Alan Williams? PG immediately goes from weakness to strength and we add playoff experience in the process.

Yes I Play too much 2k19 for those wondering lol.

[Qwigglez]

Highly doubt DLo would want to go to Minnesota. Only way I see it is if no other teams offer him the max. If we have the cap space, 10 times out of 10 he’d pick the Suns over the Wolves.

[Qwigglez]

I know someone closed to the Minnesota front office that is pretty convinced Minnesota will do all they can to get Russell if Brooklyn renounces him...that their front office loves him, the whole Towns/Russell best friends thing, etc

The Minnesota Timberwolves might be making a play for D’Angelo Russell. After rumors first surfaced last week about the team’s interest in the Brooklyn Nets star, The Athletic’s John Krawczynski reports that Minnesota general manager Gersson Rosas and vice president of basketball Sachin Gupta have taken an “aggressive” approach to finding means of acquiring him.

“Officials with teams around the league already are noticing an aggressiveness in engagement, league sources told The Athletic. And with Rosas and Gupta at the top of the food chain, most believe that any and all options will be considered when it comes to reshaping the roster around Towns, who has been less clandestine about his feelings toward Russell.”

https://clutchpoints.com/timberwolves-rumors-teams-noticing-aggressiveness-in-engagement-from-wolves-about-nets-dangelo-russell/

So how are the Wolves going to find that $30M in cap space? Is there a team willing to eat Wiggins contract? Is there a team that wants Jeff Teague and his $19M, or Dieng that cost $16M. They also have to figure out if they are going to extend Saric this summer or wait til he’s a RFA next offseason. I don’t see how the Wolves can possibly make the cap space unless the Cavs take Wiggins, the 11th pick, future 1st for JR Smith. I’d still think if I’m the Cavs I wouldn’t make that deal. Doesn’t seem as plausible to me as the Suns making enough cap space to sign DLo.

[sunsbg]

Not against signing Russel, but I'm trying to figure out the difference between him and Booker and whether it's a good idea to max out the same skillset at two starting lineup positions. Are they good fit long-term ?

[bwgood77]

I know someone closed to the Minnesota front office that is pretty convinced Minnesota will do all they can to get Russell if Brooklyn renounces him...that their front office loves him, the whole Towns/Russell best friends thing, etc

The Minnesota Timberwolves might be making a play for D’Angelo Russell. After rumors first surfaced last week about the team’s interest in the Brooklyn Nets star, The Athletic’s John Krawczynski reports that Minnesota general manager Gersson Rosas and vice president of basketball Sachin Gupta have taken an “aggressive” approach to finding means of acquiring him.

“Officials with teams around the league already are noticing an aggressiveness in engagement, league sources told The Athletic. And with Rosas and Gupta at the top of the food chain, most believe that any and all options will be considered when it comes to reshaping the roster around Towns, who has been less clandestine about his feelings toward Russell.”

https://clutchpoints.com/timberwolves-rumors-teams-noticing-aggressiveness-in-engagement-from-wolves-about-nets-dangelo-russell/

So how are the Wolves going to find that $30M in cap space? Is there a team willing to eat Wiggins contract? Is there a team that wants Jeff Teague and his $19M, or Dieng that cost $16M. They also have to figure out if they are going to extend Saric this summer or wait til he’s a RFA next offseason. I don’t see how the Wolves can possibly make the cap space unless the Cavs take Wiggins, the 11th pick, future 1st for JR Smith. I’d still think if I’m the Cavs I wouldn’t make that deal. Doesn’t seem as plausible to me as the Suns making enough cap space to sign DLo.

Yeah they'd need to clear worse more expensive contracts than us but at the same time I haven't heard us rumored to be interested, though without leaks that might not mean anything, despite what Ashley Nevel said.

[enigmatics]

Ayton could be better than Towns. But he could also not be. Just like many here didn't want to trade JJ for Kyrie. At some point, the Suns need better players in the now. Can't keep clinging onto potential of the future.

EXACTLY!

This sitting around hoping/waiting someone perfect is going to fall into their lap is getting out of hand. At some point you have to make a move to at least better the team. Who knows, with the friendship between Russell and DBook may inspire more chemistry/effort in other areas of their respective games.

That would be an awful lot of firepower in the backcourt, which would wear down defenders and in some ways offsetting their own defensive liabilities at times. I read that Russell was 2nd on the team in deflections, 2nd in recovering loose balls, and 1st in contested 3pt shots. So he's got something to work with.

[Wilber85]

Wilber, you would save a lot of time by puting "You're all crazy" in your signature so you don't have to write it in your every post.

Y’all * good advice though. It only is happening during this time because everyone and their mom is obsessed with T. rex arms Clarke .

I want him if we were 12-30 but not 6

No more rookies , we need to trade 6

And last summer it was only because a lot of people wanted Doncic. And some wanted Van Vleet. And there have been a few others this summer you've commented on.

Yeah Doncic I was wrong . His % weren’t that great but he had a lot more usage than I thought .

VanVleet is still not a starter in my opinion and I wouldn’t want him as our starter

[alamin330]

D’LO > Kyrie. It’s a huge win if suns can get him.

[enigmatics]

Yeah Doncic I was wrong . His % weren’t that great but he had a lot more usage than I thought .

VanVleet is still not a starter in my opinion and I wouldn’t want him as our starter

The higher Doncic's usage rate climbed the worse his % got.

[NapoleonII]

Of course KAT > Ayton.

He's been in the league for 4 years. His body of work and who he is as a player is way more solidified, for good or bad. I just think there's less "good" than many of you think.

I don't think it's crazy to say that Ayton is 70% of KAT already. I'm betting on his development and potential because we absolutely need him to achieve more as a #1 pick, a nimble/athletic 7 footer with a sweet jumper. He's done nothing to prove otherwise that he can't achieve where KAT is (or higher).

You got the C and SG spot locked down for the next 6-7 years, you find a star PG, not trading away one of the most dominant rookie bigs we've ever seen.