Yuri Vaultin wrote:Trade 4 to Atlanta for 8 and 11.
10*
the problem with that is Pels would then have potentially 3 players that would require max extensions at the same exact time, it's a rub
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Yuri Vaultin wrote:Trade 4 to Atlanta for 8 and 11.
karkinos wrote:let's be real, pels are not that good at drafting.
karkinos wrote:let's be real, pels are not that good at drafting.
clyde21 wrote:karkinos wrote:let's be real, pels are not that good at drafting.
u know it's not Demps anymore running the show right?
PrinceH wrote:I'm excited for this Pelicans team, just need a vet centre, if I'm the GM i'm packaging this in a deal for Marc Gasol and resign Jahlil Okafor he played well as a backup
clyde21 wrote:NekiEcko wrote:I don't think that trade up for the Hawks would be beneficial at all, besides I don't see anybody in this draft is enough to trade up to 4 and we would want something else.
supposedly Hawks really want Reddish, so they might have to
PrinceH wrote:I'm excited for this Pelicans team, just need a vet centre, if I'm the GM i'm packaging this in a deal for Marc Gasol and resign Jahlil Okafor he played well as a backup
clyde21 wrote:10* the problem with that is Pels would then have potentially 3 players that would require max extensions at the same exact time, it's a rubYuri Vaultin wrote:Trade 4 to Atlanta for 8 and 11.
HotelVitale wrote:clyde21 wrote:10* the problem with that is Pels would then have potentially 3 players that would require max extensions at the same exact time, it's a rubYuri Vaultin wrote:Trade 4 to Atlanta for 8 and 11.
By my rough count, maybe 3 out of 22 players drafted 8 and 10 in the last 12 years have come close to earning max extensions. That's about 1 in 7, so the chances they'd need to give two of those out is 1 in 14...so probably not enough of a thing to not shift your franchise future for. (More than twice that number were total busts, fwiw).
clyde21 wrote:yes, but you dont really think that way...if you don't think those two extra players you're getting are gonna be good, why even make the trade in the first place? in that case just stay put at #4.HotelVitale wrote:By my rough count, maybe 3 out of 22 players drafted 8 and 10 in the last 12 years have come close to earning max extensions. That's about 1 in 7, so the chances they'd need to give two of those out is 1 in 14...so probably not enough of a thing to not shift your franchise future for. (More than twice that number were total busts, fwiw).clyde21 wrote: 10* the problem with that is Pels would then have potentially 3 players that would require max extensions at the same exact time, it's a rub
HotelVitale wrote:clyde21 wrote:yes, but you dont really think that way...if you don't think those two extra players you're getting are gonna be good, why even make the trade in the first place? in that case just stay put at #4.HotelVitale wrote: By my rough count, maybe 3 out of 22 players drafted 8 and 10 in the last 12 years have come close to earning max extensions. That's about 1 in 7, so the chances they'd need to give two of those out is 1 in 14...so probably not enough of a thing to not shift your franchise future for. (More than twice that number were total busts, fwiw).
GMs aren't stupid, they're aware of the risks and probabilities around draft picks. They're pros so they do their homework and then cross their fingers things turn out well, and don't delude themselves into thinking every pick they're making is a steal. You make a trade like that because the chances of getting something useful if not great are better with two top-ten picks than with one top-5 pick. Especially one in a draft that they don't love anyone outside the top-3 in.
Madhouse wrote:if they can get Beal, do it
clyde21 wrote:i know they know the risks, but they also trust their abilities to get the right guys...ain't nobody trading #4 for 8/10 because 'it's okay, they'll probably bust anyways'. that's not the mindset you have, and if it is, you might as well just keep #4 because your chances of getting the guy you want are higher in that case anyways.HotelVitale wrote: GMs aren't stupid, they're aware of the risks and probabilities around draft picks. They're pros so they do their homework and then cross their fingers things turn out well, and don't delude themselves into thinking every pick they're making is a steal. You make a trade like that because the chances of getting something useful if not great are better with two top-ten picks than with one top-5 pick. Especially one in a draft that they don't love anyone outside the top-3 in.
karkinos wrote:clyde21 wrote:karkinos wrote:let's be real, pels are not that good at drafting.
u know it's not Demps anymore running the show right?
statistically speaking what are the chances of someone correctly picking 2 additional first rounders requiring max contracts from the same draft?
you could be jerry west for all i care. statement still stands.
clyde21 wrote:HotelVitale wrote:clyde21 wrote: 10* the problem with that is Pels would then have potentially 3 players that would require max extensions at the same exact time, it's a rub
By my rough count, maybe 3 out of 22 players drafted 8 and 10 in the last 12 years have come close to earning max extensions. That's about 1 in 7, so the chances they'd need to give two of those out is 1 in 14...so probably not enough of a thing to not shift your franchise future for. (More than twice that number were total busts, fwiw).
yes, but you dont really think that way...if you don't think those two extra players you're getting are gonna be good, why even make the trade in the first place? in that case just stay put at #4.
Dupp wrote:Beal worth much more than 4 imo