2019 Draft Thread

LuessiT · Post #1201 » by **LuessiT** » Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:07 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:All I know about Gafford is he was a projected lotto pick last year. If he's as bad as you say he is, it's just another example of nobody knowing dick about anything.

It's just another example about nobody not knowing anything.

Edit: Centers just aren't valuable unless they can do something really special. Or they can shoot. Best case he becomes DAJ and even he won't get more than the tax MLE I'll predict.

Ron Swanson · Post #1202 » by **Ron Swanson** » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:27 pm

ESPN had us taking Okeke in their televised mock draft and he's the guy I might be zeroing in on. Without the ACL injury he probably goes late lottery. Can spread the floor, decent size, is athletic enough to switch on smalls, and really gets after it on defense. Sign me up.

RiotPunch · Post #1203 » by **RiotPunch** » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:46 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:All I know about Gafford is he was a projected lotto pick last year. If he's as bad as you say he is, it's just another example of nobody knowing dick about anything.

It's not that he's bad. He's good at what he does, he just doesn't do enough. Just bring in Sagaba as a priority UDFA instead and draft someone actually built for the modern game.

emunney · Post #1204 » by **emunney** » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:31 pm

Still on Sirvydis. Think he's an "open 3s are free throws" guy with more to his game.

bizarro · Post #1205 » by **bizarro** » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:51 pm

emunney wrote:Still on Sirvydis. Think he's an "open 3s are free throws" guy with more to his game.

Absolutely with you. Loved and love his game and have been admiring him even more since I read this back yonder https://www.thestepien.com/2018/09/22/international-sleeper-deividas-sirvydis/

Chuck Diesel · Post #1206 » by **Chuck Diesel** » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:30 am

The Stepien guys seemed pretty down on Sirvydis’s frame and ability to ever play passable defense. I’m always into that kinda range though.

mke_design · Post #1207 » by **mke_design** » Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:11 am

LuessiT wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:All I know about Gafford is he was a projected lotto pick last year. If he's as bad as you say he is, it's just another example of nobody knowing dick about anything.

It's just another example about nobody not knowing anything.

Edit: Centers just aren't valuable unless they can do something really special. Or they can shoot. Best case he becomes DAJ and even he won't get more than the tax MLE I'll predict.

I mean, that is valid points when looking at a modern NBA landscape. He isn't valueless. However, Gafford would allow for a ton of vertical spacing and instant pick and roll offense. He's a center yes, but he would be a good compliment to Giannis on the floor and we do need a center even if we do bring back Lopez. We still could use another center - but again this is guesswork.

Elite athleticism is a trait.

msiris · Post #1208 » by **msiris** » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:43 am

Cameron Johnson or Windler please.

TroyD92 · Post #1209 » by **TroyD92** » Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:39 am

Really hope the Bucks can make a move to get NOP pick. I think Hunter is perfect for this team and system.

LuessiT · Post #1210 » by **LuessiT** » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:52 am

Chuck Diesel wrote:The Stepien guys seemed pretty down on Sirvydis’s frame and ability to ever play passable defense. I’m always into that kinda range though.

I disagree with the Stepien guys on a lot of things. Yes his frame is bad but so is plenty of others who play big minutes at SG. I think he'll cope.

LuessiT · Post #1211 » by **LuessiT** » Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:02 am

mke_design wrote:
LuessiT wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:All I know about Gafford is he was a projected lotto pick last year. If he's as bad as you say he is, it's just another example of nobody knowing dick about anything.

It's just another example about nobody not knowing anything.

Edit: Centers just aren't valuable unless they can do something really special. Or they can shoot. Best case he becomes DAJ and even he won't get more than the tax MLE I'll predict.

I mean, that is valid points when looking at a modern NBA landscape. He isn't valueless. However, Gafford would allow for a ton of vertical spacing and instant pick and roll offense. He's a center yes, but he would be a good compliment to Giannis on the floor and we do need a center even if we do bring back Lopez. We still could use another center - but again this is guesswork.

Elite athleticism is a trait.

Cheick Diallo has elite athleticism, developed pretty well for 3 years and still ends up being a min guy. Probably. I get why you want Gafford. I'm not saying he's not talented. The problem is what he brings is a certain skill set in a totally oversaturated market. He truly would have to be the best of the best at what he does. And if he's the best of the best at what he does, he wouldn't go 30. I'll call out every team that picks a big that cannot shot or do anything else than roll/rebound cause that pick will probably end up doing nothing. Shooting, elite rim protection or playmaking is what I'd look at to draft a center. Unless we are talking top 10.

LuessiT · Post #1212 » by **LuessiT** » Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:05 am

emunney wrote:Still on Sirvydis. Think he's an "open 3s are free throws" guy with more to his game.

Love him. I'm wondering why he's not getting any first round hype. There has got to be something which is holding him back.

Badgerlander · Post #1213 » by **Badgerlander** » Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:09 pm

Draft starts at pick #4 now, wonder if the Pelicans go after Goga or Sekou

Frank Nova · Post #1214 » by **Frank Nova** » Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:14 pm

Badgerlander wrote:Draft starts at pick #4 now, wonder if the Pelicans go after Goga or Sekou

The Pelicans would be crazy not to take Bol at #4 imo. Ingram Zion Bol as the future front court has INSANE potential.

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LuessiT · Post #1215 » by **LuessiT** » Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:17 pm

Badgerlander wrote:Draft starts at pick #4 now, wonder if the Pelicans go after Goga or Sekou

Pretty sure they are going to trade that pick.

Badgerlander · Post #1216 » by **Badgerlander** » Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:22 pm

emunney wrote:Still on Sirvydis. Think he's an "open 3s are free throws" guy with more to his game.

Yep, kid is fun to watch, good decisions with the ball and ability to do everything offensively. Like him a lot

LuessiT · Post #1217 » by **LuessiT** » Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:26 pm

Badgerlander wrote:
emunney wrote:Still on Sirvydis. Think he's an "open 3s are free throws" guy with more to his game.

Yep, kid is fun to watch, good decisions with the ball and ability to do everything offensively. Like him a lot

He's making really good reads as a passer. I don't know enough about him to have a clear opinion but he feels way undermocked. From what I've seen he compares mostly favourably to Huerter who went 19 last year and had a good rookie season.

Badgerlander · Post #1218 » by **Badgerlander** » Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:28 pm

Frank Nova wrote:
Badgerlander wrote:Draft starts at pick #4 now, wonder if the Pelicans go after Goga or Sekou
The Pelicans would be crazy not to take Bol at #4 imo. Ingram Zion Bol as the future front court has INSANE potential.

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Yeah all 3 combos would be crazy fun to watch

Frank Nova · Post #1219 » by **Frank Nova** » Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:34 pm

Badgerlander wrote:
Frank Nova wrote:
Badgerlander wrote:Draft starts at pick #4 now, wonder if the Pelicans go after Goga or Sekou
The Pelicans would be crazy not to take Bol at #4 imo. Ingram Zion Bol as the future front court has INSANE potential.

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Yeah all 3 combos would be crazy fun to watch

Yeah, if I'm NOP I would be absolutely enamored with the idea of Zion and Bol as my future 4/5 combo moving forward. A 6'8" brick **** house and a 7'3" gazelle with range on his jumper would be too much for me to pass up personally.

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Post #1220 » by **Ruzious** » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:22 pm

For anyone interested, there's a draft picking contest at the NBA Draft Forum. viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1851030