2019 free agency and trade ideas: part 2 Downloading

[SunsLyf3]

Just from a design standpoint, they aren't really that different to AF1's so I dunno what's so fire about it?

It says Book on that strip.

lol it's just a tag. Could probably cost you about $10 to get it made

The blue outline is kinda cool though

Authenticity is what the price tag is for.

[Kerrsed]

Watch on YouTube

[starbosa10]

Hope khawi either stays or goes to the clips with Jimmy butler

[lilfishi22]

I think Kawhi is probably going to do a long term deal with Toronto. Gives him financial security considering his injury concern and given that he brought Toronto to the Promised Land (still can't believe it!), I don't think there would be any issues or hard feelings if he decides he wants to be traded.

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[jredsaz]

Lakers get a top ten player. One that Ayton is gonna struggle against 4X a year. Right now it's such a win for the Lakers.

There is no clue who else they can slot in. Veterans looking for a ring, cheap quality pickups.This does not help the worst team in the Pacific/Western Conference.

Think your downplaying the importance of having Ayton on the roster. Looking forward to seeing him battle with AD.

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[WeekapaugGroove]

I think Kawhi is probably going to do a long term deal with Toronto. Gives him financial security considering his injury concern and given that he brought Toronto to the Promised Land (still can't believe it!), I don't think there would be any issues or hard feelings if he decides he wants to be traded.

Unless he really believes in Pascal I'm sceptical he does a long term deal in Toronto. That team is set to age out pretty quickly and it's not easy to get FAs to go north of the border.

A 1+1 seems more likely but with his leg issues he might not want to do that. Although if he did wait until he gets to 10 years service time to do the 5 year deal he could make a bunch of money because the % raises. It would be interesting if toronto offer him a 5 year deal with the stipulation that if he came to them after a year or two and asked out they would trade him.

If he's only looking at 5 yr deals then who knows where he lands. He's an unpredictable dude. On one hand he's almost too good to go to a place like the Lakers and take a back seat to LeBron but maybe since he just proved he can be the best player on a championship team he then says screw it I'll take the easier route. Im not counting the Lakers out on him until it's official.

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[BobbieL]

I don't like Rich Paul and some of his tactics but ultimately his clients are grown ass men who hire him and can fire him. I have a hard time just blaming Paul in this stuff.

And for as messy as it played out the pels are in a hell of a lot better spot than they would have been if AD just lead them on and walked next summer.

Oh I want to say this ahead of time if Kawhi goes to the Lakers I might just take up watching hockey or something. I could somewhat handle the warriors super team because I never really hated them and did like watching their style of play. But a Lakers super team is a whole other animal.

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I really hope he plays another year in Toronto. Otherwise I think he goes to the Clippers. He lives north of San Diego in offseason. So a chopper ride to Staples . But o think the clippers practice facility is closer to his home.

As for the Suns - calling my shot. Yes I am calling it

Clarke and Russell

[nevetsov]

If we swapped TJo's useable $20m expiring for Mozgov's slightly less useable $16m expiring, how much cap space would that give us?

Orlando could use a scrappy, playable PG and it only costs $4m more than a guy that can't see the court for them.

For us, we are going to upgrade the PG spot anyway, so one of TJo/Melton/Okobo becomes redundant. May as well spend that money on a guy who can hopefully fill the role of 10-15 minute backup C. Especially if it gets us $4m closer to a top tier PG.

Edit - I'd even include Josh for Augustin, to give them a SF prospect and to get us a quality backup PG.

FA, Augustin, Melton, Okobo
Booker, Bridges
Oubre, Warren
Clarke, Bender (room exception?)
Ayton, Mozgov

Closeout lineup has Oubre at PF and either Bridges or Warren on in place of Clarke.

Johnson, Fultz
Fournier, Grant
Jackson, Iwundu
Gordon, Isaac
Bamba, Birch

Plus whatever upgrades they get from their cap space/ picks.

[nevetsov]

As for the Suns - calling my shot. Yes I am calling it

Clarke and Russell

Yep, my money's on that too.

[lilfishi22]

I think Kawhi is probably going to do a long term deal with Toronto. Gives him financial security considering his injury concern and given that he brought Toronto to the Promised Land (still can't believe it!), I don't think there would be any issues or hard feelings if he decides he wants to be traded.

Unless he really believes in Pascal I'm sceptical he does a long term deal in Toronto. That team is set to age out pretty quickly and it's not easy to get FAs to go north of the border.

A 1+1 seems more likely but with his leg issues he might not want to do that. Although if he did wait until he gets to 10 years service time to do the 5 year deal he could make a bunch of money because the % raises. It would be interesting if toronto offer him a 5 year deal with the stipulation that if he came to them after a year or two and asked out they would trade him.

If he's only looking at 5 yr deals then who knows where he lands. He's an unpredictable dude. On one hand he's almost too good to go to a place like the Lakers and take a back seat to LeBron but maybe since he just proved he can be the best player on a championship team he then says screw it I'll take the easier route. Im not counting the Lakers out on him until it's official.

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It's less to do with their long term projections of the team and more about his own financial security. He knows himself best and I would think he'd want the security of a 5 yr deal rather than a 1+1. A 1+1 makes sense too but he's potentially leaving a lot on the table if he gets hurt. I think it would make sense on both sides for them to agree on a 5yr max deal. Kawhi gets his security, Toronto doesn't lose a major asset, they can try and make another run and if Kawhi decides to get traded, I really don't think it would turn ugly.
Kawhi has basically built himself infinite goodwill and I think if he was to sign on for 5yrs, they'll have an understanding they would honor his request respectfully if he wants out later.

Kawhi can only sign a 4yr deal if he goes elsewhere btw. Only Toronto can offer him the Bird rights 5yr max.

[Frank Lee]

I’d like to find a way to get Hernangomez

I’d prefer him over both Bender and Holmes

And think he can play next to Ayton as well, but I also think Ayton would be an effective PF. His perimeter D is underrated. #hopingtoseeanewwrinkle

[AtheJ415]

Trade idea :

Suns trade TJ and #6 to the Bulls for Otto Porter , then we sign russell

Russell
Booker
Oubre
Porter
Ayton

Otto makes $24 million. What are we signing DLO with in this scenario?

[lilfishi22]

Trade idea :

Suns trade TJ and #6 to the Bulls for Otto Porter , then we sign russell

Russell
Booker
Oubre
Porter
Ayton

Otto makes $24 million. What are we signing DLO with in this scenario?

Dreams

[Ghost of Kleine]

I don't like Rich Paul and some of his tactics but ultimately his clients are grown ass men who hire him and can fire him. I have a hard time just blaming Paul in this stuff.

And for as messy as it played out the pels are in a hell of a lot better spot than they would have been if AD just lead them on and walked next summer.

Oh I want to say this ahead of time if Kawhi goes to the Lakers I might just take up watching hockey or something. I could somewhat handle the warriors super team because I never really hated them and did like watching their style of play. But a Lakers super team is a whole other animal.

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I really hope he plays another year in Toronto. Otherwise I think he goes to the Clippers. He lives north of San Diego in offseason. So a chopper ride to Staples . But o think the clippers practice facility is closer to his home.

As for the Suns - calling my shot. Yes I am calling it

Clarke and Russell

That would be pretty solid honestly!

[Kerrsed]

I’d like to find a way to get Hernangomez

I’d prefer him over both Bender and Holmes

And think he can play next to Ayton as well, but I also think Ayton would be an effective PF. His perimeter D is underrated. #hopingtoseeanewwrinkle

One name that stands out to me as a defensive PF that can actually be had but no one is talking about is James Johnson.

Miami is looking for ways to gain capspace for the 2020 FA and could be looking to give away a pick or two in order to do so (Reports say Riley will trade the pick to clear cap space). I'd take him and start him if we get the #13 pick. While most wont be impressed by that name they might like another Miami PF that could also be substituted in the same scenario, Kelly Olynyk. Tyler Johnson could be traded back to them once he opts in, as his contract would expire perfectly in time for whatever Riley has up his sleeve, while getting out of Johnson's or Olynyk 2 remaining years.

If we did that, we could net us a starting PF and still have the capspace (Actually about double the current $7.Something million we currently have) to get us PatBev in FA. We get about $8M more cap space THIS SEASON (And a starting PF), while Miami gets around $16M more cap space NEXT SEASON.

[Ghost of Kleine]

So this is what someone feels Ball is worth???
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Hoops23General ManagerUnread post#10 » Today 2:39 am

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Damkac wrote:

Hoops23 wrote:Lavar Ball doesnt have the control to Lonzo,but NOP has.

If they trade Ball, it means they draft Garland at #4. Which I think they shouldnt use for a PG because I think they should make Ball as their future at PG.

Assuming they want to trade Lonzo, the only assets I think is worth trading him for with the Sun is Ayton or # 6.


Ayton for Ball? How about Zion for Josh Jackson instead?


not talking about a straight Ball for Ayton. It can be Ayton for Ball plus ****. 
I mentioned Ayton and the pick, because they are the attractive asset to trade for Ball. Booker is untouchable, I think


Gotta love this craziness honestly.

[Slim Charless]

I think Kawhi is probably going to do a long term deal with Toronto. Gives him financial security considering his injury concern and given that he brought Toronto to the Promised Land (still can't believe it!), I don't think there would be any issues or hard feelings if he decides he wants to be traded.

Yeah I wonder if this AD trade might impact him. The clips most likely would be second class citizens in LA (again) now. So any merchandising and all of the bonus stuff that comes from living in LA in gonna be tempered.

Plus, like you said thats alot of money to turn down both what the raps can pay and all the Kawhi stuff that he'll sell up there. Plus raps are a better team and will get a ton of cap room nxt season

[AtheJ415]

Drafting Clarke or Culver and getting Russell would be ideal. Russell is about as good a PG as we have a shot of getting and hasn't peaked. While some would want a defensive PG, none as good as Russell overall are available. And while Bev would be great and all and cost less, the gap between his salary and Russell's is Tyler Johnson and Jackson. That gap is worth it to get Russell.