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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 

Post#1261 » by Black Mage » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:41 am

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Wow, wow. That's all I can say. Way to keep your options open and cards close to your chest.


What exactly did the Sixers do to tip their hand? They told Thybulle they were interested and the kid clearly liked the idea of joining our stud team and made the decision to gamble everything to get there and shut down his pre-draft process on his own.

If you want to be upset, be upset with Thybulle's camp making such a huge gamble.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 

Post#1262 » by NYSixersFan » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:41 am

here's hoping free agency turns out a lot better than tonight
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Post#1263 » by USWAY » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:42 am

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Negrodamus wrote:
Mik317 wrote:lots of guys undrafted that should have went back to school.

rough lol


Naz Reid, yikes. Isn't there a stipulation where you can return back to school if you don't get drafted?

Maybe if they don't hire an agent, they can still go back to school?

They created the rule last year, but it hasn't been officially passed yet. Still pending.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 

Post#1264 » by PhilasFinest » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:42 am

NYSixersFan wrote:here's hoping free agency turns out a lot better than tonight


Doubt it.

Unless we land Kawhi Leonard, were probably going to try and "Runitback".....and our bench will be paper thin and never be able to help hold a lead.
SparksFly87 wrote:Towns got boat feet and gets off the ground very slow with a lack of explosiveness . He is a rich mans Henry Sims to me. No thanks .
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 

Post#1265 » by Negrodamus » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:43 am

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Wow, wow. That's all I can say. Way to keep your options open and cards close to your chest.


What exactly did the Sixers do to tip their hand? They told Thybulle they were interested and the kid clearly liked the idea of joining our stud team and made the decision to gamble everything to get there and shut down his pre-draft process on his own.

If you want to be upset, be upset with Thybulle's camp making such a huge gamble.


If you have zero flexibility on who you're drafting and you make a promise to a mediocre prospect at 24, you're bound to get burned. Too many people talk, there's agents, players, teams, all trying to get an advantage. Boston figured our situation out, we squirmed, we pay.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 

Post#1266 » by the_process » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:43 am

I would like Lawson as UDFA now. Right now.
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Post#1267 » by PhilasFinest » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:43 am

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SparksFly87 wrote:Towns got boat feet and gets off the ground very slow with a lack of explosiveness . He is a rich mans Henry Sims to me. No thanks .
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Post#1268 » by PhilasFinest » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:43 am

the_process wrote:I would like Lawson as UDFA now. Right now.


well take some stiffs who make no sense and yield a SL roster of defensive athletes who cant score.
SparksFly87 wrote:Towns got boat feet and gets off the ground very slow with a lack of explosiveness . He is a rich mans Henry Sims to me. No thanks .
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 

Post#1269 » by the_process » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:47 am

Black Mage wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
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Wow, wow. That's all I can say. Way to keep your options open and cards close to your chest.


What exactly did the Sixers do to tip their hand? They told Thybulle they were interested and the kid clearly liked the idea of joining our stud team and made the decision to gamble everything to get there and shut down his pre-draft process on his own.

If you want to be upset, be upset with Thybulle's camp making such a huge gamble.


But if they didn’t promise him, then they don’t overpay to move up and get him.

I feel that it’s likely Elton wanted Edwards at 34. I also feel like Ainge knew that, too. And tried it again. Except there, Elton wasn’t locked in and instead pivoted to Plan B.

I don’t have a problem promising a guy. Thybulle made out better than expected because of it. But that’s exactly the kind of situation you have to be leery of and have contingency plans in place for.
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Post#1270 » by kingofthecourt67 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:47 am

Lol are we really melting down over the second round right now? We’re about to incorporate 4 very young guys in the rotation next year. You can’t play a team with all rookies as the second unit Makes sense to consolidate and be ready to draft more bench players in later years.
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Post#1271 » by Tomjas » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:48 am

Negrodamus wrote:
Mik317 wrote:lots of guys undrafted that should have went back to school.

rough lol


Naz Reid, yikes. Isn't there a stipulation where you can return back to school if you don't get drafted?


If they decide by 5pm Monday

No idea if that’s the case where an agent has been appointed
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Post#1272 » by Negrodamus » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:49 am

Here's what I'll say about Shayok:

He shoots great at the rim (74%) on a relatively low assisted%. Shoots great in mid range and 3 point land. He's an 87% FT shooter so he's a lights out shooter. Seems to score well on three levels. He honestly does what Cam Johnson does but we're not sinking the 11th pick in him.

He's ass on defense. I don't think that part is going to change.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 

Post#1273 » by FireMorey » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:49 am

kingofthecourt67 wrote:Lol are we really melting down over the second round right now? We’re about to incorporate 4 very young guys in the rotation next year. You can’t play a team with all rookies as the second unit Makes sense to consolidate and be ready to draft more bench players in later years.


In this case it is worth being angry over. They are going to have limited funds after keeping their guys, needed as many cheap contracts as possible. With key 2nd round picks they basically punted the entire round. Now, once again, they will be forced to pick up guys for cheap and only able to promise backup roles, which didn't work out so well in the buyout market. The Sixers need a bench badly and severely hurt their chances of improving it tonight.

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Post#1274 » by HankTheTank » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:50 am

Just to reemphasize how dumb our front office is, Dallas got 45 and 2 future 2nds for 37. We got 57 and 2 future 2nds for 34. That same better trade was sitting out there. Incompetence
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 

Post#1275 » by Negrodamus » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:54 am

Brand citing Thybulles 35% career from 3 as some kind of validation of his shooting.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 

Post#1276 » by Black Mage » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:54 am

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Wow, wow. That's all I can say. Way to keep your options open and cards close to your chest.


What exactly did the Sixers do to tip their hand? They told Thybulle they were interested and the kid clearly liked the idea of joining our stud team and made the decision to gamble everything to get there and shut down his pre-draft process on his own.

If you want to be upset, be upset with Thybulle's camp making such a huge gamble.


But if they didn’t promise him, then they don’t overpay to move up and get him.

I feel that it’s likely Elton wanted Edwards at 34. I also feel like Ainge knew that, too. And tried it again. Except there, Elton wasn’t locked in and instead pivoted to Plan B.

I don’t have a problem promising a guy. Thybulle made out better than expected because of it. But that’s exactly the kind of situation you have to be leery of and have contingency plans in place for.


That isn't how promises work. A promise works meaning if Thybulle is still available at 24 then Sixers will take him. Them trading up indicates that Elton truly wanted him, not because a promise was made.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 

Post#1277 » by FireMorey » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:54 am

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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 

Post#1278 » by kingofthecourt67 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:55 am

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kingofthecourt67 wrote:Lol are we really melting down over the second round right now? We’re about to incorporate 4 very young guys in the rotation next year. You can’t play a team with all rookies as the second unit Makes sense to consolidate and be ready to draft more bench players in later years.


In this case it is worth being angry over. They are going to have limited funds after keeping their guys, needed as many cheap contracts as possible. With key 2nd round picks they basically punted the entire round. Now, once again, they will be forced to pick up guys for cheap and only able to promise backup roles, which didn't work out so well in the buyout market. The Sixers need a bench badly and severely hurt their chances of improving it tonight.

This isn't a day you regret in the Fall. it's a move you regret next spring.


That’s my point. Given how our roster is constructed with Smith, Shake, Thymbulle, Bolden, MLE, etc these second rounders were less likely to be contributing next year. Why not punt when we need to infuse more young talent into the team. We have enough young guys expected to contribute right now.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 

Post#1279 » by FireMorey » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:57 am

kingofthecourt67 wrote:
PhilaOwnsBoston wrote:
kingofthecourt67 wrote:Lol are we really melting down over the second round right now? We’re about to incorporate 4 very young guys in the rotation next year. You can’t play a team with all rookies as the second unit Makes sense to consolidate and be ready to draft more bench players in later years.


In this case it is worth being angry over. They are going to have limited funds after keeping their guys, needed as many cheap contracts as possible. With key 2nd round picks they basically punted the entire round. Now, once again, they will be forced to pick up guys for cheap and only able to promise backup roles, which didn't work out so well in the buyout market. The Sixers need a bench badly and severely hurt their chances of improving it tonight.

This isn't a day you regret in the Fall. it's a move you regret next spring.


That’s my point. Given how our roster is constructed with Smith, Shake, Thymbulle, Bolden, MLE, etc these second rounders were less likely to be contributing next year. Why not punt when we need to infuse more young talent into the team. We have enough young guys expected to contribute right now.


I think at 33 or 34 depending on how scenarios could have played out differently, there were guys who could have contributed right away.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 

Post#1280 » by Black Mage » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:57 am

Negrodamus wrote:Here's what I'll say about Shayok:

He shoots great at the rim (74%) on a relatively low assisted%. Shoots great in mid range and 3 point land. He's an 87% FT shooter so he's a lights out shooter. Seems to score well on three levels. He honestly does what Cam Johnson does but we're not sinking the 11th pick in him.

He's ass on defense. I don't think that part is going to change.


3 Level scorer with bad defense? We've seen that kind of player get drafted in the 1st all the time. My guess is he gets our 2nd two-way contract.

Shot looks good, like that it seems better off the dribble on pull ups than it does on catch and shoot. Not a high expectation, but if he can get to even below average to average defense then he might make it.

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