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Luigi wrote:GobertReport wrote:Luigi wrote:Harris without Ingles won't be good enough.
I think we've seen the plan for Harris: we offer him a big but not max contract with a player option, and look for vet mins after that.
Plan B looks good to me. We gotta get some Lebron defenders. Hezonja, Carroll, Ariza are on my shortlist.
How do we offer him a close to max?
Check out the plans a page or two back from babyjax13 and stitches. They did some solid work on that
Luigi wrote:Harris without Ingles won't be good enough.
I think we've seen the plan for Harris: we offer him a big but not max contract with a player option, and look for vet mins after that.
Plan B looks good to me. We gotta get some Lebron defenders. Hezonja, Carroll, Ariza are on my shortlist.
JazzMatt13 wrote:just because I think aliens probably have to do with JFK, doesn't mean my theory that Jazz will never get Wiggins, isn't true.
babyjax13 wrote:Luigi wrote:Harris without Ingles won't be good enough.
I think we've seen the plan for Harris: we offer him a big but not max contract with a player option, and look for vet mins after that.
Plan B looks good to me. We gotta get some Lebron defenders. Hezonja, Carroll, Ariza are on my shortlist.
Thad Young should be at the top of that list. Probably the best switching power forward in the league (maaaaybe PJ Tucker is ahead) and the best LeBron defender there is.
GobertReport wrote:KDBG wrote:The reason why I think there were reports that Harris is interested in signing here, is cause of this. I don't think money is the most important factor. He's been interested to come here for at least a year it seems with rumors dating back to that time. But, the reason why the reports said it was a long shot cause of money reasons, was just stating the obvious. But I think most local media members, besides David Locke, don't know the exact inner workings of the franchise. Teams talk, players talk, and know exactly what's going on. I still don't think it's 100%, but I think the chances of us getting him are way higher than people think. Just trying to read between the lines here.
Who is the dude in the white shirt?
GobertReport wrote:
Interesting to say the least, I’m guessing we are focusing on a shooting 4 and depth.
JazzMatt13 wrote:just because I think aliens probably have to do with JFK, doesn't mean my theory that Jazz will never get Wiggins, isn't true.
babyjax13 wrote:GobertReport wrote:
Interesting to say the least, I’m guessing we are focusing on a shooting 4 and depth.
God that would be amazing.
Gobert/min./min.
Tobias/[.5 room mle]/min.
Ingles/O'neale/min.
Mitchell/[.5 room mle]/O'neale
Conley/min./min.
. I had moved on to plan B, but this looks incredible. Luigi wrote:babyjax13 wrote:GobertReport wrote:
Interesting to say the least, I’m guessing we are focusing on a shooting 4 and depth.
God that would be amazing.
Gobert/min./min.
Tobias/[.5 room mle]/min.
Ingles/O'neale/min.
Mitchell/[.5 room mle]/O'neale
Conley/min./min.
Wow, I am fired up for Harris again
But help me understand this twitter business. What's going on here? Salt city hoops gives us option 4. Then is Tony Jones saying that the problem with option 4 is that the Jazz just don't wanna move Exum?
JazzMatt13 wrote:just because I think aliens probably have to do with JFK, doesn't mean my theory that Jazz will never get Wiggins, isn't true.
babyjax13 wrote:Luigi wrote:babyjax13 wrote:
God that would be amazing.
Gobert/min./min.
Tobias/[.5 room mle]/min.
Ingles/O'neale/min.
Mitchell/[.5 room mle]/O'neale
Conley/min./min.
Wow, I am fired up for Harris again
But help me understand this twitter business. What's going on here? Salt city hoops gives us option 4. Then is Tony Jones saying that the problem with option 4 is that the Jazz just don't wanna move Exum?
I'll honestly have to do the math again tomorrow, because this seems like just shuffling the order (and maybe they forgot about minimum roster charges).
. If we strike out on Harris, this is the safest news to push. Fans will think they've always been here:
babyjax13 wrote:Tom349 wrote:Any chance Porter decides to bet on himself and take the bi annual exception or whatever it is we have with the option to opt out next season when the free agent pool is very shallow. Could be an ideal situation for him given he would be guaranteed playing time and in a functional organisation/team for the first time in his career. Here's the list of FA's (missing a couple) he would coming up against next off season.
Power Forwards
Davis Bertans (28)
Draymond Green (30)
Serge Ibaka (31)
Jon Leuer (31)
Patrick Patterson (31)
Dwight Powell (29)
Marvin Williams (34)
Centers
Aron Baynes (34)
Bismack Biyombo (28)
Montrezl Harrell (26)
John Henson (30)
Dwight Howard (35)
Alex Len (27)
Meyers Leonard (28)
Ian Mahinmi (34)
Timofey Mozgov (34)
Mason Plumlee (30)
Miles Plumlee (32)
Tristan Thompson (29)
Hassan Whiteside (31)
Half those names will be lucky to be offered a contract next season. A good year with Utah and he could set himself up very nicely. Also interesting to note that his agent is Mark Bartelstein who although the agent of Hayward is also the agent of Ingles and if memory serves me correct he has a good relationship with the Jazz despite how things played out with Hayward.
No, no chance. Plus, we don't have the BAE to offer. He also wouldn't be competing against centers, and he is more of a small forward than a power forward (though he can play the 4).
Luigi wrote:babyjax13 wrote:GobertReport wrote:
Interesting to say the least, I’m guessing we are focusing on a shooting 4 and depth.
God that would be amazing.
Gobert/min./min.
Tobias/[.5 room mle]/min.
Ingles/O'neale/min.
Mitchell/[.5 room mle]/O'neale
Conley/min./min.
Wow, I am fired up for Harris again
But help me understand this twitter business. What's going on here? Salt city hoops gives us option 4. Then is Tony Jones saying that the problem with option 4 is that the Jazz just don't wanna move Exum?
What in the heck are you talking about? No one would do a sign and trade for Rubio.Calhamid94 wrote:The jazz should have done a sign and trade with Rubio for Sabonis and a pick. We could have gotten some key pieces if we did that with Rubio!
KqWIN wrote:Think we should shift our focus away from Harris and back to reality.
I think we'll be lucky to have 2 solid rotation players between Royce, Exum, and Niang. That means were going to need at least two rotation guys from our room exception, minimums, or second round picks to just get through the season. That's a tough task. I think it's very important that we nail down a reliable Ariza/Carroll type.
stitches wrote:The best thing about Favors is that he actually provides one solid PF and one amazing rotation C - in other words he practically fills 2 roster roles for us. I still think between the Bermuda triangle the PG-big combo's inability to shoot and be a threat to score was a much bigger problem than the big-big inability to shoot. Favors+Gobert actually had a +10 net rating season on the floor together the last time we had a good shooting PG(Hill) and that was with Favors being severely limited by injuries that year.
On the reliable Ariza/Carroll type(besides Ariza and Carroll):
-Danuel House
-Reggie Bullock
-RHJ might be one but I'm not sure about his ability to stay on the floor in the playoffs because of his shaky shooting
-Dorian Finney-Smith... same...
From the min-guys:
-Thabo - the more I'm thinking about it the more I think he would be amazing for the min if we can get him back
-Hezonja
-Stanley Johnson
-Wayne Selden
Those are the ones I've marked as possible additions.