Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread

[Negrodamus]

I don't think this is purely hope on the Rockets part. He was just down there earlier this month. There has been constant rumors about a mutual interest between the two. Now Woj is reporting it.

Also, I don't think Jimmy is bluffing. If he doesn't get his way, I could see him going elsewhere.

[nitocobola]

Ok let's say that the sixers accept to do a sign an trade, without involing cp3, because no one wants that toxic contract, how could this work?
The sixers don't want capela which makes things even worse.

[PhilasFinest]

The Sixers are not going to sign and trade him to Houston.

If Butler says he's leaving regardless, they might consider it if they can get decent compensation.

He won't and they wouldn't take back bad contracts, just having the cap room is more beneficial.

It would be more beneficial IF you had someone lined up to sign....If Harris is staying and gets a 5 year max and Butler says he wants out and would be willing to go to Houston via S&T, I think you'd have to look into it depending on the pitch.

If a package of Gordon (good contract and fit) Capela and Picks is on the table, you might have to take it and try to assemble a roster around that compared to just hoping you can sign somebody. Maybe you flip Capela to a 3rd team and get back better fitting pieces to round out the roster.

Outside of a long shot with Kawhi and DeAngelo Russell....who are you realistically adding via FA without overpaying to come here?

[nitocobola]

I don't think this is purely hope on the Rockets part. He was just down there earlier this month. There has been constant rumors about a mutual interest between the two. Now Woj is reporting it.

Also, I don't think Jimmy is bluffing. If he doesn't get his way, I could see him going elsewhere.

I think that jimmy wants that five year deal but he doesn't want to live in philly. So yeah it makes sense for the most part.
Maybe he is looking to leave on "good terms" with the fans and with a sign and trade the sixers aren't left with nothing.

[PhilasFinest]

Ok let's say that the sixers accept to do a sign an trade, without involing cp3, because no one wants that toxic contract, how could this work?
The sixers don't want capela which makes things even worse.

Capela could be someone you re-route and bring in a 3rd team to acquire better fitting piece(s).
Id also imagine any trade involves Eric Gordon, who is on a respectable salary and only signed for 2 seasons.

[cool93]

The thing is, I would prefer telling Butler that we won't accommodate trade and his 5 year offer is still on the table. If he signs with some **** team like Knicks, so be it. We'll have cap space to sign someone.

We want to win a championship, creating a superteam in Houston is not the way to do it.

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[FireMorey]

If Butler says he's leaving regardless, they might consider it if they can get decent compensation.

He won't and they wouldn't take back bad contracts, just having the cap room is more beneficial.

It would be more beneficial IF you had someone lined up to sign....If Harris is staying and gets a 5 year max and Butler says he wants out and would be willing to go to Houston via S&T, I think you'd have to look into it depending on the pitch.

If a package of Gordon (good contract and fit) Capela and Picks is on the table, you might have to take it and try to assemble a roster around that compared to just hoping you can sign somebody. Maybe you flip Capela to a 3rd team and get back better fitting pieces to round out the roster.

Outside of a long shot with Kawhi and DeAngelo Russell....who are you realistically adding via FA without overpaying to come here?

You don’t have to take anything. Be no one’s bitch. As mike Scott said “I ain’t no bitch”

Don’t let anyone try to bully you into anything. Go out and take what you want, be an alpha organization.

[Negrodamus]

Problem is: Eric Gordon kinda sucks.

[Monix]

Is Butler willing to opt in like Paul did?

IIRC, then Butler for Gordon and Tucker would work ...

[PhilasFinest]

The thing is, I would prefer telling Butler that we won't accommodate trade and his 5 year offer is still on the table. If he signs with some **** team like Knicks, so be it. We'll have cap space to sign someone.

We want to win a championship, creating a superteam in Houston is not the way to do it.

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James Harden is a menace, but is Butler/Harden/ 34 year old CP3 really a super-team? How do they co-exist considering they are all high usage players that typically need the ball in their hands to be at maximum value.

Who else are they going to have to round out that roster if they use guys like Gordon/Capela to acquire Butler?

[BullyKing]

Problem is: Eric Gordon kinda sucks.

Yeah, I don't either. I'd rather have the Rockets dump him on someone like the Pacers for space and trade us Capela and a 1st for Butler and then we trade Capela for more picks. Couldn't you get Danny Green for just a little more? Would rather take our chances with $37 million and a restocked asset pool.

[cool93]

The thing is, I would prefer telling Butler that we won't accommodate trade and his 5 year offer is still on the table. If he signs with some **** team like Knicks, so be it. We'll have cap space to sign someone.

We want to win a championship, creating a superteam in Houston is not the way to do it.

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James Harden is a menace, but is Butler/Harden/ 34 year old CP3 really a super-team? How do they co-exist considering they are all high usage players that typically need the ball in their hands to be at maximum value.

Who else are they going to have to round out that roster if they use guys like Gordon/Capela to acquire Butler?

Cp3/Butler/Harden/Tucker/lob catching C

It's a scary lineup. They'll find bench, they have Morey.

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[Negrodamus]

If we do something like this, I hope we own the Rockets draft in like 2022 through 2024 when the Rockets are paying Paul and Butler massive dollars as they are disintegrating on the floor.

[kingofthecourt67]

Lol Morey is a clown. We’re not bailing him out of his dumpster fire situation that he created. Most overrated GM in the NBA.

[nitocobola]

Ok let's say that the sixers accept to do a sign an trade, without involing cp3, because no one wants that toxic contract, how could this work?
The sixers don't want capela which makes things even worse.

Capela could be someone you re-route and bring in a 3rd team to acquire better fitting piece(s).
Id also imagine any trade involves Eric Gordon, who is on a respectable salary and only signed for 2 seasons.

Honestly, a player like gordon doesn't move the needle at all. He is not even on a cheap contract. With capela you get some value if you can involve a third team yeah..
To make that trade the sixers should ask for future unprotected rounds picks from houston, if that's not the case I don't see how it could work.

[Sixerscan]

Just Morey kicking some rocks to see if anything shakes loose. No big deal.

[XDevilBoiX]

If we do something like this, I hope we own the Rockets draft in like 2022 through 2024 when the Rockets are paying Paul and Butler massive dollars as they are disintegrating on the floor.

Hope Sixers ask for the 4 1st to start talking. How badly do they want Butler, reroute the players elsewhere.

[Tony Franciosa]

Lol Morey is a clown. We’re not bailing him out of his dumpster fire situation that he created. Most overrated GM in the NBA.

he's also desperate - wasting Harden's prime without getting out of the WCF is going to be a huge fail for him.

[PhilasFinest]

Ok let's say that the sixers accept to do a sign an trade, without involing cp3, because no one wants that toxic contract, how could this work?
The sixers don't want capela which makes things even worse.

Capela could be someone you re-route and bring in a 3rd team to acquire better fitting piece(s).
Id also imagine any trade involves Eric Gordon, who is on a respectable salary and only signed for 2 seasons.

Honestly, a player like gordon doesn't move the needle at all. He is not even on a cheap contract. With capela you get some value if you can involve a third team yeah..
To make that trade the sixers should ask for future unprotected rounds picks from houston, if that's not the case I don't see how it could work.

Not saying hes "moving the needle" , but he's a SG who can shoot the 3 with volume and score 16-20 ppg.If your losing Butler, your going to need that type of role filled. I don't think 13.5/14M for a guy like Gordon is a bad contract in today's NBA.

I guess it all depends on the market and IF your bring back Harris. If you can get a guy like D'Lo to pair with Harris, sure forget about that trade.

But with a somewhat flooded marked, what are guys like Terrence Ross, Danny Green, Jeremy Lamb and JJ Redick going to command with multiple teams having money? Same with Middleton/Brogdon/Barnes?

[NoDopeOnSundays]

I posted this in the main thread, but something like -

Jimmy to Houston
Capella/Gordon to Sacramento
Bogdanovic & multiple first rounders to Philly

Sac has a ton of capspace and has been linked to Capella on a few different occasions, you get your Reddick replacement in Bogdan (bigger and younger), and still have caproom to pursue Russell / Kemba / Brogdon. You only do this if Jimmy says he's going to Brooklyn or Houston, and you're sure you can get one of those 3 guards.