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kingofthecourt67 wrote:Lol Morey is a clown. We’re not bailing him out of his dumpster fire situation that he created. Most overrated GM in the NBA.
Negrodamus wrote:
Adam Silver wrote:"Gross incompetence is acceptable; strategic gaming of a flawed system is not."
kriss73 wrote:Aint' happen
I highly doubt they're going to find a third team for both Capela and one of Gordon/Tucker (both expirings by the way)
SparksFly87 wrote:Towns got boat feet and gets off the ground very slow with a lack of explosiveness . He is a rich mans Henry Sims to me. No thanks .
Negrodamus wrote:
Welp...
EDIT: The tweet title is misleading. But Woj is suggesting Butler might push us to do a sign-and-trade.
Fischella wrote:I think none of you guys that are pro-Embiid no how basketball works today.. is way easier to win it all with Omer Asik than Olajuwon.
Actually if you ask me which Center I want for my perfect championship caliber team, I will chose Asik hands down
kriss73 wrote:Aint' happen
I highly doubt they're going to find a third team for both Capela and one of Gordon/Tucker (both expirings by the way)
Arsenal wrote:kriss73 wrote:Aint' happen
I highly doubt they're going to find a third team for both Capela and one of Gordon/Tucker (both expirings by the way)
I think Steve Kyler is confused. The BYC rules would apply to us only, not to the Rockets, as we're the only ones handing out a new larger contract (to Butler). The contracts the Rockets are trading out are old and therefore no BYC rules apply to them.
So Rockets sending out Gordon + Capela works just fine. More likely they send out Gordon + Tucker + Nene which also works.
I'm okay with the deal assuming they dump all the players on other teams and we just pocket straight draft picks. Then use our cap on D'Lo and Danny Green, resign Tobias, and we're in a good spot.
Adam Silver wrote:"Gross incompetence is acceptable; strategic gaming of a flawed system is not."
smittybanton wrote:I'm not sure we cojldn't find teams to take Gordon and/or Capela. I believe there are several teams who could use a proven scorer and a defensive minded cost controlled center.
The Brooklyn Nets are out there looking for a five, as are the Dallas Mavericks, the Boston Celtics and the LA Clippers. These teams want to be good and have a need for Eric Gordon as well. I wouldnt be surprised if Boston offered us Gordon Hayward to get out of his contract. Can we fleece them for picks for once? Can we get Landry Shamet and Danilo Gallinari from the Clippers? I would not be interested in Harrison Barnes, nor anything the Nets have to offer.
The Thunder and the Blazers have to listen to any trade offer that can keep them competitive and save them luxury tax money. The Thunder would love to give us Steven Adams and Dennis Schroder for Gordon and Capela. I would be quite pleased with Jeremi Grant and Adams. As for the Blazers, Nurkic had a gruesome injury and Enes Kanter is a free agent who is not a good defender. The obvious ask is for CJ McCollum.
Eric Gordon doesn’t fit with the Pelicans, but neither does Jrue Holiday. Clint Capela fits perfectly, since they have a bunch of young guns, with only Jahlil Okafor at center. Gordon and Capela for Jrue Holiday!
The Hornets, Bucks, Kings and Warriors should be in the market for fives. But no deal is apparent to me there. The Knicks and the Lakers are very interesting, because they have a lot of capspace, which means we could give them Gordon and/or Capela without taking salary back. Just Kuzma from the Lakers? If the Knicks wanted Capela, I would take Mitchell Robinson off their hands and still have a bunch of capspace.
Could get interesting!
Negrodamus wrote:kingofthecourt67 wrote:Lol Morey is a clown. We’re not bailing him out of his dumpster fire situation that he created. Most overrated GM in the NBA.
Wouldn't say this is "bailing him out" but rather throwing more fuel on that fire. Three ball dominant guards with zero legitimate front court options isn't going to get you far.
Arsenal wrote:smittybanton wrote:I'm not sure we cojldn't find teams to take Gordon and/or Capela. I believe there are several teams who could use a proven scorer and a defensive minded cost controlled center.
The Brooklyn Nets are out there looking for a five, as are the Dallas Mavericks, the Boston Celtics and the LA Clippers. These teams want to be good and have a need for Eric Gordon as well. I wouldnt be surprised if Boston offered us Gordon Hayward to get out of his contract. Can we fleece them for picks for once? Can we get Landry Shamet and Danilo Gallinari from the Clippers? I would not be interested in Harrison Barnes, nor anything the Nets have to offer.
The Thunder and the Blazers have to listen to any trade offer that can keep them competitive and save them luxury tax money. The Thunder would love to give us Steven Adams and Dennis Schroder for Gordon and Capela. I would be quite pleased with Jeremi Grant and Adams. As for the Blazers, Nurkic had a gruesome injury and Enes Kanter is a free agent who is not a good defender. The obvious ask is for CJ McCollum.
Eric Gordon doesn’t fit with the Pelicans, but neither does Jrue Holiday. Clint Capela fits perfectly, since they have a bunch of young guns, with only Jahlil Okafor at center. Gordon and Capela for Jrue Holiday!
The Hornets, Bucks, Kings and Warriors should be in the market for fives. But no deal is apparent to me there. The Knicks and the Lakers are very interesting, because they have a lot of capspace, which means we could give them Gordon and/or Capela without taking salary back. Just Kuzma from the Lakers? If the Knicks wanted Capela, I would take Mitchell Robinson off their hands and still have a bunch of capspace.
Could get interesting!
It's not going to be on us to find takers for the Rockets players. That will be up to them. From our perspective I believe we'll want nothing but draft picks.
Winejk wrote:Negrodamus wrote:kingofthecourt67 wrote:Lol Morey is a clown. We’re not bailing him out of his dumpster fire situation that he created. Most overrated GM in the NBA.
Wouldn't say this is "bailing him out" but rather throwing more fuel on that fire. Three ball dominant guards with zero legitimate front court options isn't going to get you far.
Can't imagine Butler happy being the third option. It'll mean he'll be a spot up shooter for most of the time when Harden is doing his thing.
Miami meeting and Rockets S&T is all smoke by Butler's agent, Darryl More and whoever else.
Winejk wrote:Negrodamus wrote:kingofthecourt67 wrote:Lol Morey is a clown. We’re not bailing him out of his dumpster fire situation that he created. Most overrated GM in the NBA.
Wouldn't say this is "bailing him out" but rather throwing more fuel on that fire. Three ball dominant guards with zero legitimate front court options isn't going to get you far.
Can't imagine Butler happy being the third option. It'll mean he'll be a spot up shooter for most of the time when Harden is doing his thing.
Miami meeting and Rockets S&T is all smoke by Butler's agent, Darryl More and whoever else.
Ben wrote:Winejk wrote:Negrodamus wrote:
Wouldn't say this is "bailing him out" but rather throwing more fuel on that fire. Three ball dominant guards with zero legitimate front court options isn't going to get you far.
Can't imagine Butler happy being the third option. It'll mean he'll be a spot up shooter for most of the time when Harden is doing his thing.
Miami meeting and Rockets S&T is all smoke by Butler's agent, Darryl More and whoever else.
I agree. Just doesn't make any sense. Butler is going to say to the Sixers: I not only want to go to Houston, but am willing to sign with a different team altogether (and lose the fifth year max) if you won't S&T me to the Rockets. That's how much I don't want to be here in Philly.
Just doesn't ring true. I mean, if the Sixers prefer to convert Butler into other assets, and thus prefer a Houston S&T, that'd be one thing. (I for one sure as heck don't want a declining Eric Gordon in his place.) But not this nonsense about Butler trying to force Philly into a S&T.
If Houston first goes and dumps Capela's and Gordon's contracts for no returning salary so that they can sign Butler outright, then maybe I'll get a little more convinced. Until then this seems like smoke.
Arsenal wrote:Ben wrote:Winejk wrote:
Can't imagine Butler happy being the third option. It'll mean he'll be a spot up shooter for most of the time when Harden is doing his thing.
Miami meeting and Rockets S&T is all smoke by Butler's agent, Darryl More and whoever else.
I agree. Just doesn't make any sense. Butler is going to say to the Sixers: I not only want to go to Houston, but am willing to sign with a different team altogether (and lose the fifth year max) if you won't S&T me to the Rockets. That's how much I don't want to be here in Philly.
Just doesn't ring true. I mean, if the Sixers prefer to convert Butler into other assets, and thus prefer a Houston S&T, that'd be one thing. (I for one sure as heck don't want a declining Eric Gordon in his place.) But not this nonsense about Butler trying to force Philly into a S&T.
If Houston first goes and dumps Capela's and Gordon's contracts for no returning salary so that they can sign Butler outright, then maybe I'll get a little more convinced. Until then this seems like smoke.
They can't sign him outright even if they dump Capela and Gordon. Trading them away in a 3 way deal allows them to take back Butler's MAX in a trade.