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The full 4 year MLE sounds pretty fair then. If we don't just sign him to a 4-40 or 4-36nate33 wrote:Rafael122 wrote:Listening to Fred Katz' podcast, he said sources close to the Athletic expect Bryant's camp to ask for about $10 mil per.
I think it's a reasonable ask. I would hope that the Wizards can negotiate that down to about $8M.
gambitx777 wrote:The full 4 year MLE sounds pretty fair then. If we don't just sign him to a 4-40 or 4-36nate33 wrote:Rafael122 wrote:Listening to Fred Katz' podcast, he said sources close to the Athletic expect Bryant's camp to ask for about $10 mil per.
I think it's a reasonable ask. I would hope that the Wizards can negotiate that down to about $8M.
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dckingsfan wrote:gambitx777 wrote:The full 4 year MLE sounds pretty fair then. If we don't just sign him to a 4-40 or 4-36nate33 wrote:I think it's a reasonable ask. I would hope that the Wizards can negotiate that down to about $8M.
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So, would the MLE be $9,246,000? Would that follow all four years or would it follow the MLE for each year forward?
gambitx777 wrote:MLE
2019/20$9,246,000
2020/21$9,708,300
2021/22$10,170,600
2022/23$10,632,900
Total$39,757,800
I think.dckingsfan wrote:gambitx777 wrote:The full 4 year MLE sounds pretty fair then. If we don't just sign him to a 4-40 or 4-36
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So, would the MLE be $9,246,000? Would that follow all four years or would it follow the MLE for each year forward?
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Bickerstaff: who's up for kickball?!!
Ed Wood: Only if it's the no-pants variety.
Rafael122 wrote:I took a quick look at the 2020 free agents list and holy hell is it bad. Top 10 free agents: 3 are restricted, Hayward has a player option that he will pick up. Davis is staying in LA, DeRozan has a player option so who knows if he'll stay. Draymond Green might be the only true max guy next offseason. Drummond has an opt out, but it's $28 million...there's little reason to think he'd get more than that on the open market. It wouldn't shock me if the Wizards used the MLE this offseason, there's really no one else to use the money on next year. If you're the Knicks or Clippers or even Nets, and they strike out on the big names, it's going to look bleak.
The kicker is the cap's estimated to go up $10 million which is the largest increase since '16.
pcbothwel wrote:Rafael122 wrote:I took a quick look at the 2020 free agents list and holy hell is it bad. Top 10 free agents: 3 are restricted, Hayward has a player option that he will pick up. Davis is staying in LA, DeRozan has a player option so who knows if he'll stay. Draymond Green might be the only true max guy next offseason. Drummond has an opt out, but it's $28 million...there's little reason to think he'd get more than that on the open market. It wouldn't shock me if the Wizards used the MLE this offseason, there's really no one else to use the money on next year. If you're the Knicks or Clippers or even Nets, and they strike out on the big names, it's going to look bleak.
The kicker is the cap's estimated to go up $10 million which is the largest increase since '16.
Yup... I think you're going to see some guys take big one year deal to get in on the 2020 FA class.
Also, This makes Beal that much more valuable. No reason to move him now
Bickerstaff: who's up for kickball?!!
Ed Wood: Only if it's the no-pants variety.
FAH1223 wrote:
payitforward wrote:FAH1223 wrote:
Does someone here have an espn insider account? If so, can you copy/paste here the section of that article about the Wizards?
Richaun Holmes -- not Parker
Vonleh -- not Parker not Portis
McConnell -- with Sato (& I hope Robinson works out too!)
Sato / McConnell / Robinson / Wall -- but his return changes this...
Beal / Brown / Garrison the pale (but, he's on a 2-way deal, so...)
? / Schofield / ?
Vonleh / Rui / Holmes
Bryant / Howard / Mahinmi
plus ...?
dckingsfan wrote:Thanks - guessing that they could settle anywhere under than line...gambitx777 wrote:MLE
2019/20$9,246,000
2020/21$9,708,300
2021/22$10,170,600
2022/23$10,632,900
Total$39,757,800
I think.dckingsfan wrote:So, would the MLE be $9,246,000? Would that follow all four years or would it follow the MLE for each year forward?
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FAH1223 wrote:
nate33 wrote:They seem to think the market for Jabari Parker is really weak. They were throwing around 1-year $8M as a possible contract. I don't see it. I think he gets at least the MLE for at least 2 guaranteed years.
Illmatic12 wrote:Why would we need to use the MLE on Thomas? They’ll just sign him with Bird rights
doclinkin wrote:nate33 wrote:They seem to think the market for Jabari Parker is really weak. They were throwing around 1-year $8M as a possible contract. I don't see it. I think he gets at least the MLE for at least 2 guaranteed years.
I don’t know. I think Parker’s statement that you “don’t get paid for defense“ really works against them at this point. Ironically. Every team has an analytical guy now, and players like Draymond Green have earned max contracts entirely for their defense. The fact that Parker has gotten bounced from two teams specifically for lackadaisical defense tends to suppress his market. It’s not like he has shown up as a bad character guy otherwise. You don’t read about him having fights in night clubs or in locker rooms or whatever, it’s just that people are concerned about chemistry and his affect on the rest of the team if he’s going to show up lazy and give a half assed effort. I think he still has a lot to prove.
And I think an agent might look for a shorter term deal with options at the backend so that if he can rehabilitate his image as a total team player he can point to his knee injuries as the culprit for his early career and recruit a long-term deal at a higher dollar rate.
FAH1223 wrote:doclinkin wrote:nate33 wrote:They seem to think the market for Jabari Parker is really weak. They were throwing around 1-year $8M as a possible contract. I don't see it. I think he gets at least the MLE for at least 2 guaranteed years.
I don’t know. I think Parker’s statement that you “don’t get paid for defense“ really works against them at this point. Ironically. Every team has an analytical guy now, and players like Draymond Green have earned max contracts entirely for their defense. The fact that Parker has gotten bounced from two teams specifically for lackadaisical defense tends to suppress his market. It’s not like he has shown up as a bad character guy otherwise. You don’t read about him having fights in night clubs or in locker rooms or whatever, it’s just that people are concerned about chemistry and his affect on the rest of the team if he’s going to show up lazy and give a half assed effort. I think he still has a lot to prove.
And I think an agent might look for a shorter term deal with options at the backend so that if he can rehabilitate his image as a total team player he can point to his knee injuries as the culprit for his early career and recruit a long-term deal at a higher dollar rate.
Rudy Gay got a 1 year $10M deal last offseason with the Spurs.
Maybe that's the barometer?
nate33 wrote:Rudy Gay was almost a decade older and was coming off an Achilles injury.
nate33 wrote:FAH1223 wrote:
I thought it was weird that they made such a big deal out of not signing any free agents to a deal longer than 2 years (with the lone exception of Bryant). What's so special about 2021? If Beal departs, it's not like having a ton of cap room will be beneficial. We would not be a destination for any first tier free agents.
I'm totally comfortable with longer contracts for younger players as long as the deals are fair. If Sato wants a 3-year deal, what's the problem? If we sign a youngish free agent like Noah Vonleh or Delon Wright, what's wrong with 4 years?
They seem to think the market for Jabari Parker is really weak. They were throwing around 1-year $8M as a possible contract. I don't see it. I think he gets at least the MLE for at least 2 guaranteed years.