Woj: Lakers trade Wagner, Bonga, Jones, '22 2nd rder to Wizards
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keynote wrote:I don't have much hopes for Bonga and Jones. They'll get reps on the Go-Go. But Wagner and a 2nd for nothing isn't bad. It's found money. Maybe Wagner will blossom like Bryant; maybe he won't. But he'll get an opportunity, which is fine with me. Go Blue!
But if Bonga and Jones do start well, I'll be going to some Go-Go games. The Go-Go's might actually be a profitable enterprise. Get a tv contract and some decent announcers... and... allow gambling... yup. Money maker.
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Dat2U wrote:I don't think it's a sure bet either SHOULD make a roster.
I'm pretty sure that Wagner and Bonga have guaranteed contracts for the 2019-20 season. If we cut them, we won't save any money. They'll stick around for a season at least.
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I say waive Dwight Howard and go ahead and still sign Voigtmann.
Sato Bonga Robinson
Beal McRae Sanon
Brown Jr Schofield
Hachimura White
Bryant Voigtmann Wagner
It would be nice to still have Otto Porter
Sato Bonga Robinson
Beal McRae Sanon
Brown Jr Schofield
Hachimura White
Bryant Voigtmann Wagner
It would be nice to still have Otto Porter
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If Aaron White makes the roster at all, why would it be for anything more than the 1st-year player minimum of $897,158? My guess is that they'll leave him overseas for another year since we just acquired so many guaranteed contracts in the Laker trade. So that leaves us the $13.3M in luxtax room. We would still have the MLE and the BAE.
As of now, it looks like one of Troy Brown or Admiral Schofield will start at SF and Rui starts at PF. We have no backup PF. We definitely need 1 MLE veteran forward plus another respectable veteran forward (Jeff Green?)
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This team still has no outside shooting. Wouldn't shock me if they look at Seth Curry.
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A 2nd unit of Bonga-Sanon-Schofield-White-Wagner has the potential to be the worst lineup in NBA history LOL.
On the flip side, imagine a lineup of Sato-Beal-Brown jr-Otto-Hachimura
On the flip side, imagine a lineup of Sato-Beal-Brown jr-Otto-Hachimura
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Why would the Wiz sign White - other than him playing a position they need - poorly? His Euro stats are underwhelming https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/players/aaron-white-1.html. I hate to say this about anyone, but he's nothing more than a poor man's Sam Dekker.
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Late to the party, god damn, I like this move, wtf are the Lakers doing
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NatP4 wrote:I say waive Dwight Howard and go ahead and still sign Voigtmann.
Sato Bonga Robinson
Beal McRae Sanon
Brown Jr Schofield
Hachimura White
Bryant Voigtmann Wagner
It would be nice to still have Otto Porter
Waive Dwight for Voigtmann...hell no. That guy is a 3rd Center at best. If Dwight is healthy do yo know what kind of value he will have on the market.
Again, Bojan is going to get almost 20M per, Horford is about to get a 4/110M deal...
Dwight at 5.7M could be a real get for a team that cant afford to add salary. He is a walking 2nd round pick, dont waive him.
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Ruzious wrote:Why would the Wiz sign White - other than him playing a position they need - poorly? His Euro stats are underwhelming https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/players/aaron-white-1.html. I hate to say this about anyone, but he's nothing more than a poor man's Sam Dekker.
I don't think he'll ever play in the NBA. He probably can make more overseas.
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Rafael122 wrote:This team still has no outside shooting. Wouldn't shock me if they look at Seth Curry.
The Euro bigs were getting can shoot. Also got beal
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pcbothwel wrote:NatP4 wrote:I say waive Dwight Howard and go ahead and still sign Voigtmann.
Sato Bonga Robinson
Beal McRae Sanon
Brown Jr Schofield
Hachimura White
Bryant Voigtmann Wagner
It would be nice to still have Otto Porter
Waive Dwight for Voigtmann...hell no. That guy is a 3rd Center at best. If Dwight is healthy do yo know what kind of value he will have on the market.
Again, Bojan is going to get almost 20M per, Horford is about to get a 4/110M deal...
Dwight at 5.7M could be a real get for a team that cant afford to add salary. He is a walking 2nd round pick, dont waive him.
Agree to a point but do you play him 30 mpg if you have Bryant? No. Do you play him 20? Maybe but then what is he worth? Can he stay healthy? I'd rather let Bryant learn than play Howard starter's minutes just so you think you might be able to get a 2nd rounder from him. And I'm probably reversing what I said a few weeks ago when I thought we could get something for him. If you can get a future pick, fine. But my guess is this organization doesn't want him here for several reasons.
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truwizfan4evr wrote:Rafael122 wrote:This team still has no outside shooting. Wouldn't shock me if they look at Seth Curry.
The Euro bigs were getting can shoot. Also got beal
On paper, he's right. Schofield, Rui, and Wagner have chances to be pretty good shooters as does Bryant. Maybe TBJ improves but sure, other than Beal, they lack proven shooters. Cory Joseph wouldn't add much either as he's a career 32.7% 3pt shooter and 44.4% overall.
My fault, I forgot the ultimate stretch five? Ian MaThreemi.
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80sballboy wrote:pcbothwel wrote:NatP4 wrote:I say waive Dwight Howard and go ahead and still sign Voigtmann.
Sato Bonga Robinson
Beal McRae Sanon
Brown Jr Schofield
Hachimura White
Bryant Voigtmann Wagner
It would be nice to still have Otto Porter
Waive Dwight for Voigtmann...hell no. That guy is a 3rd Center at best. If Dwight is healthy do yo know what kind of value he will have on the market.
Again, Bojan is going to get almost 20M per, Horford is about to get a 4/110M deal...
Dwight at 5.7M could be a real get for a team that cant afford to add salary. He is a walking 2nd round pick, dont waive him.
Agree to a point but do you play him 30 mpg if you have Bryant? No. Do you play him 20? Maybe but then what is he worth? Can he stay healthy? I'd rather let Bryant learn than play Howard starter's minutes just so you think you might be able to get a 2nd rounder from him. And I'm probably reversing what I said a few weeks ago when I thought we could get something for him. If you can get a future pick, fine. But my guess is this organization doesn't want him here for several reasons.
There are 48 MPG at every position. Dwight can get 15 MPG with Bryant getting 25 MPG. The other 8 (Give or take) gets used in small ball.
You tell him straight up... We believe you have something left in the tank. Be a good sport and help the young guys, rebound, and play D. We'll move you to a contender where you will get playing time and in the playoffs.
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80sballboy wrote:truwizfan4evr wrote:Rafael122 wrote:This team still has no outside shooting. Wouldn't shock me if they look at Seth Curry.
The Euro bigs were getting can shoot. Also got beal
On paper, he's right. Schofield, Rui, and Wagner have chances to be pretty good shooters as does Bryant. Maybe TBJ improves but sure, other than Beal, they lack proven shooters. Cory Joseph wouldn't add much either as he's a career 32.7% 3pt shooter and 44.4% overall.
My fault, I forgot the ultimate stretch five? Ian MaThreemi.
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pcbothwel wrote:80sballboy wrote:pcbothwel wrote:
Waive Dwight for Voigtmann...hell no. That guy is a 3rd Center at best. If Dwight is healthy do yo know what kind of value he will have on the market.
Again, Bojan is going to get almost 20M per, Horford is about to get a 4/110M deal...
Dwight at 5.7M could be a real get for a team that cant afford to add salary. He is a walking 2nd round pick, dont waive him.
Agree to a point but do you play him 30 mpg if you have Bryant? No. Do you play him 20? Maybe but then what is he worth? Can he stay healthy? I'd rather let Bryant learn than play Howard starter's minutes just so you think you might be able to get a 2nd rounder from him. And I'm probably reversing what I said a few weeks ago when I thought we could get something for him. If you can get a future pick, fine. But my guess is this organization doesn't want him here for several reasons.
There are 48 MPG at every position. Dwight can get 15 MPG with Bryant getting 25 MPG. The other 8 (Give or take) gets used in small ball.
You tell him straight up... We believe you have something left in the tank. Be a good sport and help the young guys, rebound, and play D. We'll move you to a contender where you will get playing time and in the playoffs.
That's fine but I continue to hear rumblings that they want to get rid of him. When you go for "character" guys in the draft like Rui and Schofield, Beal is practically a Saint and Troy seems like a good kid, I don't know if they want Dwight Howard mentoring the younger guys.
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80sballboy wrote:Jemerrio Jones, and I can't believe I'm dissecting him (slow summer day), but his G-League numbers are not horrific, shooting-wise. It is amazing that is a guy who is 6-5, not considered a great leaper and isn't huge (I've seen him listed anywhere from 175 to 210 pounds) is that good a rebounder.
https://gleague.nba.com/player/jemerrio-jones/
I’ve never seen him play , but if he can defend and gives max effort he’ll get a chance to crack the rotation
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If we must cut someone it will more than likely be the lower undrafted guys but, if it's not an issue just cut Ian and eat the dead cap, it's one-year don't even bother stretching him. Just buy him out and move on and he can go sign with the Lakers for the min.
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truwizfan4evr wrote:Rafael122 wrote:This team still has no outside shooting. Wouldn't shock me if they look at Seth Curry.
The Euro bigs were getting can shoot. Also got beal
Sato (if retained) can also knock down shots. Thomas Bryant shoots as well. We have 3pt shooting throughout the roster, just missing a dedicated gunner in the starting lineup - like say a Bogdanovic type.
The hole in the roster now is to replace Ariza’s role , we need a starting SF who can launch threes and defend big wings. Someone like Otto but who isn’t being paid a bajillion dollars