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Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough

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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#121 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:16 pm

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Context wrote:guys take it from me please...I was with a good friend of mine who ruptured their achilles. I took care of them until they could walk again and its not what you think its is...I had extensive conversations with their doctor...
First of all, do you have any idea how strong that tendon is? You have to view this differently...when my friend had the surgery
the doctor did over 300 stitches...Let that sink in guys 300...I know he looks weak hoping around like that :lol:
but it's only because it needs to heal first-before he can put weight on it. Wait till he tries to put pressure on that foot for the first time- he will probably think he's never going to play again...all of this worry in "mental". It's about what KD's idea of this injury is
-what our idea of this injury is-when the bottom line is- he didn't get his foot amputated- he can come back from this-but he has to
believe it and go threw the grind of it and complete the process with the discipline and repetition- something my friend could not do...

Look the reason that I believe KD can come back strong from this- is because another great player did it (Dominick Wilkins) and I believe
KD has the mental make up to believe that he can do it and the mental male up to put the work in! He's done it all his life...

Thats all it takes to get almost anything you want accomplish -PERIOD!


Belief is all you've got on this one, because the facts about the nature of the injury for NBA players, especially one in their 30s, don't actually back up any such conviction

Your friend doesn't happen to play in the NBA do they? That's right, that's a whole other kettle of fish

Dominick Wilkins- you have no other "great" player that was 30 years old with the SAME body type- I'll wait Clyde :D
I love your posts and usually agree with you but I sense that we're about to get it in :lol: prepare yourself- i have some experience in this field my good buddy :lol:


Did Nique have fractured feet preceding their achilles? KD's feet, calves and now achilles are all issues now. He ain't right down there.

I'm not saying he won't be back and productive to some unknown degree, but you believing in that because Nique did it doesn't make it more probable when most players are significantly diminished by it.

You do realize we can't really debate this very much, because neither of us know how he'll turn out. You can argue probabilities which is what we may be doing now, but quite honestly I don't see how you can say the history of these injuries is favorable in his 30s by pointing to Nique who is an outlier case.

Guys with feet issues can end up with significant compensatory injuries and we don't know why KD was having calf issues and if they are related to structural support from the feet up, but his injury history is probably connected to the achilles now. That's why I'm skeptical of this belief in him. It is not a knock against his will to overcome. It is just a disbelief due to his physical issues from the soles of his feet up to his knee and he may never be close to what he was as a result.

You want to risk it on him?

Cool

Your prerogative and that's not something I want to debate. I simply don't think he is worth the risk after his prior injuries that may be structurally related and at his age.

If it comes down to a gut check instead of facts, I respect my gut and I'll respect your faith, but I will still call your conviction faith rather than certitude. You cannot be certain of his level of play when he returns. None of us can. You can believe in him if you wish to.
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#122 » by Triple C » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:17 pm

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It's now Chris Haynes (Yahoo!) and Ian Begley (SNY) vs Stephen A Smith and the real lesson here is the reporting on this stuff has been so misguided it's pathetic. What do I know? That the Knicks have no reason to believe they aren't still very much in the game to sign Kevin Durant. What I've heard is KD hasn't told anyone his plans nor does he want it to be a media circus.
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#123 » by BowlRips » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:19 pm

WOJ on Get Up!

- KD to the Nets is definitely not a “done deal”
- KD is making decision irrespective of Kyrie
- KD is going to make his decision taking into account his business and market

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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#124 » by Deeeez Knicks » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:20 pm

This is a roller coaster ride. I think we bottomed out at signing Mudiay and Cousins. We are coming back up now
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#125 » by GEOLINK » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:20 pm

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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#126 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:22 pm

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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#127 » by iLLmatic860 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:23 pm

Stannis wrote:Media-wise, it's a lose-lose for the Knicks. They sign Durant, they just signed an injured player. If they don't, they just got embarrassed by letting the Nets get him.

Its not a lose lose. We didnt gut our team. Kd is a complimentary piece to the young guys. He will have a huge impact on them.
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#128 » by Context » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:24 pm

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Belief is all you've got on this one, because the facts about the nature of the injury for NBA players, especially one in their 30s, don't actually back up any such conviction

Your friend doesn't happen to play in the NBA do they? That's right, that's a whole other kettle of fish

Dominick Wilkins- you have no other "great" player that was 30 years old with the SAME body type- I'll wait Clyde :D
I love your posts and usually agree with you but I sense that we're about to get it in :lol: prepare yourself- i have some experience in this field my good buddy :lol:


Did Nique have fractured feet preceding their achilles? KD's feet, calves and now achilles are all issues now. He ain't right down there.

I'm not saying he won't be back and productive to some unknown degree, but you believing in that because Nique did it doesn't make it more probable when most players are significantly diminished by it.

You do realize we can't really debate this very much, because neither of us know how he'll turn out. You can argue probabilities which is what we may be doing now, but quite honestly I don't see how you can say the history of these injuries is favorable in his 30s by pointing to Nique who is an outlier case.

Guys with feet issues can end up with significant compensatory injuries and we don't know why KD was having calf issues and if they are related to structural support from the feet up, but his injury history is probably connected to the achilles now. That's why I'm skeptical of this belief in him. It is not a knock against his will to overcome. It is just a disbelief due to his physical issues from the soles of his feet up to his knee and he may never be close to what he was as a result.

You want to risk it on him?

Cool

Your prerogative and that's not something I want to debate. I simply don't think he is worth the risk after his prior injuries that may be structurally related and at his age.

If it comes down to a gut check instead of facts, I respect my gut and I'll respect your faith, but I will still call your conviction faith rather than certitude. You cannot be certain of his level of play when he returns. None of us can. You can believe in him if you wish to.

I want to have a discussion with you on this but I cant if you are going to compare average players to KD. Yes I said that because
KD is one of the best out of 400 plus players in this league...do you think that's fair? If so then we can get back to it 8-)
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#129 » by GONYK » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:24 pm

Guys should put their KD Knick authentics on layaway now.

You'll have about a year and change to pay it off :lol:
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#130 » by god shammgod » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:25 pm

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Stannis wrote:Media-wise, it's a lose-lose for the Knicks. They sign Durant, they just signed an injured player. If they don't, they just got embarrassed by letting the Nets get him.

Its not a lose lose. We didnt gut our team. Kd is a complimentary piece to the young guys. He will have a huge impact on them.


he's talking about how the media will present it. he's right about that, they have a negative slant ready for any outcome.
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#131 » by JXL » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:26 pm

BowlRips wrote:WOJ on Get Up!

- KD to the Nets is definitely not a “done deal”
- KD is making decision irrespective of Kyrie
- KD is going to make his decision taking into account his business and market

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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#132 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:26 pm

DaT WaVeY RiCaN wrote:
Stannis wrote:Media-wise, it's a lose-lose for the Knicks. They sign Durant, they just signed an injured player. If they don't, they just got embarrassed by letting the Nets get him.

Its not a lose lose. We didnt gut our team. Kd is a complimentary piece to the young guys. He will have a huge impact on them.


That is assuming KD is a great leader and a brilliant mentor and I don't see any indications for or against those assumptions.

So he's a star. That's not going to change the culture by itself.

Saying he's going to have a huge impact from the sidelines is too much hype.
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#133 » by GEOLINK » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:26 pm

BowlRips wrote:WOJ on Get Up!

- KD to the Nets is definitely not a “done deal”
- KD is making decision irrespective of Kyrie
- KD is going to make his decision taking into account his business and market

Duddeeeeee

So we get Durant and Nets get Kyrie is what it sounds like.

What the hell is Kyrie thinking.
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#134 » by sol537 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:27 pm

KD is a huge risk. Probably a 40-60 gamble with 40% being the chance of it working out (ie where he's 80% of his old self for the last 2-3 years of his contract). I think we have to make the hard decision and pass on him despite whatever hush hush agreements they may have had with his agent. The conditions have changes.

There are other ways to build towards contention and we're in a great position.
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#135 » by bigfnjoe96 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:28 pm

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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#136 » by god shammgod » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:29 pm

i said early that kd was coming and kawhi probably wouldn't even meet with us. i'm probably gonna be right about both and hate myself after for being so.
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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#137 » by El Poochio » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:30 pm

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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#139 » by Stannis » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:33 pm

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Re: Offseason Thread: Sunday Funday can't come fast enough 

Post#140 » by El Poochio » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:34 pm

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BowlRips wrote:WOJ on Get Up!

- KD to the Nets is definitely not a “done deal”
- KD is making decision irrespective of Kyrie
- KD is going to make his decision taking into account his business and market

Duddeeeeee

So we get Durant and Nets get Kyrie is what it sounds like.

What the hell is Kyrie thinking.


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