Lowe - Timberwolves Still Want D-Russell

[KGdaBom]

Doesn't matter if they are or not. It wouldn't take Culver to move Teauge that is an MASSIVE overpay. And like I said unrealistic.

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Teague alone isn't enough salary to get Russell here. Plus it does matter because that is basically what you are doing, trading teague and okogie/Culver for russell

Then you send out Okogie. Or KBD. And kick a 2nd to the Nets. Culver is a MASSIVE overpay. Or you just hope Russell won't get the MAX. Either way Culver won't be involved.

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We should not be sending out our best contracts. We should be sending out Wiggins, Dieng and Teague.

[DaKid]

It is just a person trolling because they didn't like the Culver pick and it is quite transparent.

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Lol, I'm not trolling at all. It really has nothing to do with Culver as a player. It's a possibility that he is included in a trade to get a better player. He still hasn't played a second in the NBA which is why a 3rd team might want him over okogie. If he is required to get us a s&t Russell, why would you say no?

Because it exceeds the amount of value required to obtain Russell.

Teague by himself is not enough salary to get Russell. Nobody is taking back dieng's contract along with teague unless we give them a 1st. I don't know why we would give up roco and teague or roco and dieng if they will take culver and teague. Outside of those, the only other possibility is trading Wiggins or teague and okogie. Unlike most others, I would much rather combine Towns, Wiggins and DLo than move him and I'm not sure they would find a suitor anyway. I have nothing against Culver, but I have seen okogie against NBA players and I like what he brings to the team. I don't have a clue how Culver will play against NBA players but I'm not sure I think he will be better than okogie.

[SO_MONEY]

Teague & Culver > Russell?

Doesn't matter if they are or not. It wouldn't take Culver to move Teauge that is an MASSIVE overpay. And like I said unrealistic.

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I've maintained all along that Teague can likely be moved by himself without giving any assets. If we do maybe a 2nd round pick swap.

It will take at least a 2nd, but I think we can avoid giving a 1st which is the big concern.

[DaKid]

Doesn't matter if they are or not. It wouldn't take Culver to move Teauge that is an MASSIVE overpay. And like I said unrealistic.

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I've maintained all along that Teague can likely be moved by himself without giving any assets. If we do maybe a 2nd round pick swap.

It will take at least a 2nd, but I think we can avoid giving a 1st which is the big concern.

Teague by himself is only $19m. We need to send out between $22m and $23m to bring back russell

[KGdaBom]

Alright what am I missing? How did we go from getting rid of Wiggins which I loved back to getting rid of Okogie, Culver and 1st rd picks which I hate???

It is just a person trolling because they didn't like the Culver pick and it is quite transparent.

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Lol, I'm not trolling at all. It really has nothing to do with Culver as a player. It's a possibility that he is included in a trade to get a better player. He still hasn't played a second in the NBA which is why a 3rd team might want him over okogie. If he is required to get us a s&t Russell, why would you say no?

The Troll we were talking about is GeekFreak. Sending out the #6 overall draft pick on a rookie contract to pay Russell the Max is the reason not to. There has to be a better way than sending our best contracts out. Wiggins for Cap space would do it. Come on somebody take Wiggins and all we want is the cap space.

[Slim Tubby]

Doesn't matter if they are or not. It wouldn't take Culver to move Teauge that is an MASSIVE overpay. And like I said unrealistic.

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I've maintained all along that Teague can likely be moved by himself without giving any assets. If we do maybe a 2nd round pick swap.

It will take at least a 2nd, but I think we can avoid giving a 1st which is the big concern.

Call me crazy but I feel we could actually get a SRP back for a decent PG like Teague on an expiring contract with the right team.


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[SO_MONEY]

Lol, I'm not trolling at all. It really has nothing to do with Culver as a player. It's a possibility that he is included in a trade to get a better player. He still hasn't played a second in the NBA which is why a 3rd team might want him over okogie. If he is required to get us a s&t Russell, why would you say no?

Because it exceeds the amount of value required to obtain Russell.

Teague by himself is not enough salary to get Russell. Nobody is taking back dieng's contract along with teague unless we give them a 1st. I don't know why we would give up roco and teague or roco and dieng if they will take culver and teague. Outside of those, the only other possibility is trading Wiggins or teague and okogie. Unlike most others, I would much rather combine Towns, Wiggins and DLo than move him and I'm not sure they would find a suitor anyway. I have nothing against Culver, but I have seen okogie against NBA players and I like what he brings to the team. I don't have a clue how Culver will play against NBA players but I'm not sure I think he will be better than okogie.

Again all of that exceeds the amount of value required to obtain DLo, none of that is going to happen. RoCo won't be involved either. Why do you want to overpay???????????????????????????????

[KGdaBom]

I've maintained all along that Teague can likely be moved by himself without giving any assets. If we do maybe a 2nd round pick swap.

It will take at least a 2nd, but I think we can avoid giving a 1st which is the big concern.

Call me crazy but I feel we could actually get a SRP back for a decent PG like Teague on an expiring contract with the right team.


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That's what I think so I won't call you crazy. Problem is we probably can't do that in a timely fashion so we might have to be the ones sending out the 2nd round pick.

[SO_MONEY]

I've maintained all along that Teague can likely be moved by himself without giving any assets. If we do maybe a 2nd round pick swap.

It will take at least a 2nd, but I think we can avoid giving a 1st which is the big concern.

Call me crazy but I feel we could actually get a SRP back for a decent PG like Teague on an expiring contract with the right team.


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That would be the hope. However that becomes less likely when teams know we need to move him.

[Norseman79]

Other teams are also aware of the contracts our players have, and what we are trying to do. Why would they go out of their way to help us? If we want to move Dieng, it could cost Okogie (just an example). If you aren't willing to give up Okoge, then you are stuck with Dieng and can't complain about it. That can be said for each of the contracts that people want to be moved.

[DaKid]

Because it exceeds the amount of value required to obtain Russell.

Teague by himself is not enough salary to get Russell. Nobody is taking back dieng's contract along with teague unless we give them a 1st. I don't know why we would give up roco and teague or roco and dieng if they will take culver and teague. Outside of those, the only other possibility is trading Wiggins or teague and okogie. Unlike most others, I would much rather combine Towns, Wiggins and DLo than move him and I'm not sure they would find a suitor anyway. I have nothing against Culver, but I have seen okogie against NBA players and I like what he brings to the team. I don't have a clue how Culver will play against NBA players but I'm not sure I think he will be better than okogie.

Again all of that exceeds the amount of value required to obtain DLo, none of that is going to happen. RoCo won't be involved either. Why do you want to overpay???????????????????????????????

So what exactly are you trading to bring back russell?

[KGdaBom]

Doesn't matter if they are or not. It wouldn't take Culver to move Teauge that is an MASSIVE overpay. And like I said unrealistic.

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I've maintained all along that Teague can likely be moved by himself without giving any assets. If we do maybe a 2nd round pick swap.

It will take at least a 2nd, but I think we can avoid giving a 1st which is the big concern.

Fair enough. I feel that if we could take our time trading Teague we could be the ones getting the SRP, but since we have to do it fast we are probably giving the SRP.

[KGdaBom]

Teague by himself is not enough salary to get Russell. Nobody is taking back dieng's contract along with teague unless we give them a 1st. I don't know why we would give up roco and teague or roco and dieng if they will take culver and teague. Outside of those, the only other possibility is trading Wiggins or teague and okogie. Unlike most others, I would much rather combine Towns, Wiggins and DLo than move him and I'm not sure they would find a suitor anyway. I have nothing against Culver, but I have seen okogie against NBA players and I like what he brings to the team. I don't have a clue how Culver will play against NBA players but I'm not sure I think he will be better than okogie.

Again all of that exceeds the amount of value required to obtain DLo, none of that is going to happen. RoCo won't be involved either. Why do you want to overpay???????????????????????????????

So what exactly are you trading to bring back russell?

As little as possible LOL. I'm not Rosas and neither are you, but he didn't cave on Covington during draft night. I don't think he will cave on Culver or Covington in a Russell trade.

[Slim Tubby]

It will take at least a 2nd, but I think we can avoid giving a 1st which is the big concern.

Call me crazy but I feel we could actually get a SRP back for a decent PG like Teague on an expiring contract with the right team.


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That would be the hope. However that becomes less likely when teams know we need to move him.

Good takes by both you and KG.


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[Takingbaconback]

Other teams are also aware of the contracts our players have, and what we are trying to do. Why would they go out of their way to help us? If we want to move Dieng, it could cost Okogie (just an example). If you aren't willing to give up Okoge, then you are stuck with Dieng and can't complain about it. That can be said for each of the contracts that people want to be moved.

If you look at how Wizards traded for Bonga, Wagner, and Jones for Lakers to get space for max contract, it doesn't seem like teams are concerned with helping other teams if they see it positively for them. Dieng and unprotected first to a team far from contention and an unappealing FA destination (which seems like there are many teams) is feasible as Dieng is an expiring contract next year. They would acquire an asset this year and possibly another by trading Dieng for a bad contract and another asset next year. Since the team in question would not be able to use their cap space well in FA anyways, they can acquire more assets while they bide their time for contention

[DaKid]

Because it exceeds the amount of value required to obtain Russell.

Teague by himself is not enough salary to get Russell. Nobody is taking back dieng's contract along with teague unless we give them a 1st. I don't know why we would give up roco and teague or roco and dieng if they will take culver and teague. Outside of those, the only other possibility is trading Wiggins or teague and okogie. Unlike most others, I would much rather combine Towns, Wiggins and DLo than move him and I'm not sure they would find a suitor anyway. I have nothing against Culver, but I have seen okogie against NBA players and I like what he brings to the team. I don't have a clue how Culver will play against NBA players but I'm not sure I think he will be better than okogie.

Again all of that exceeds the amount of value required to obtain DLo, none of that is going to happen. RoCo won't be involved either. Why do you want to overpay???????????????????????????????

It will take over $27m in cap space to sign DLo outright. It will take between $22m and $23m outgoing to be able to have nets s&t Russell to us.

[DaKid]

Other teams are also aware of the contracts our players have, and what we are trying to do. Why would they go out of their way to help us? If we want to move Dieng, it could cost Okogie (just an example). If you aren't willing to give up Okoge, then you are stuck with Dieng and can't complain about it. That can be said for each of the contracts that people want to be moved.

If you look at how Wizards traded for Bonga, Wagner, and Jones for Lakers to get space for max contract, it doesn't seem like teams are concerned with helping other teams if they see it positively for them. Dieng and unprotected first to a team far from contention and an unappealing FA destination (which seems like there are many teams) is feasible as Dieng is an expiring contract next year

To get DLo though, they would have to do that with both dieng and teague

[SO_MONEY]

Teague by himself is not enough salary to get Russell. Nobody is taking back dieng's contract along with teague unless we give them a 1st. I don't know why we would give up roco and teague or roco and dieng if they will take culver and teague. Outside of those, the only other possibility is trading Wiggins or teague and okogie. Unlike most others, I would much rather combine Towns, Wiggins and DLo than move him and I'm not sure they would find a suitor anyway. I have nothing against Culver, but I have seen okogie against NBA players and I like what he brings to the team. I don't have a clue how Culver will play against NBA players but I'm not sure I think he will be better than okogie.

Again all of that exceeds the amount of value required to obtain DLo, none of that is going to happen. RoCo won't be involved either. Why do you want to overpay???????????????????????????????

So what exactly are you trading to bring back russell?

The outline is pretty clear and been speculated on by many sources. Teauge, KBD, other and/or 2nd or highly protected 1st to Team 3, TWO 2nds to the Nets, Russell to Minnesota. Something to that effect and that is enough from a modern historical perspective regarding S&Ts. So why do you want to overpay??????????????????????????

[Norseman79]

Other teams are also aware of the contracts our players have, and what we are trying to do. Why would they go out of their way to help us? If we want to move Dieng, it could cost Okogie (just an example). If you aren't willing to give up Okoge, then you are stuck with Dieng and can't complain about it. That can be said for each of the contracts that people want to be moved.

If you look at how Wizards traded for Bonga, Wagner, and Jones for Lakers to get space for max contract, it doesn't seem like teams are concerned with helping other teams if they see it positively for them. Dieng and unprotected first to a team far from contention and an unappealing FA destination (which seems like there are many teams) is feasible as Dieng is an expiring contract next year. They would acquire an asset this year and possibly another by trading Dieng for a bad contract and another asset next year. Since the team in question would not be able to use their cap space well in FA anyways, they can acquire more assets while they bide their time for contention

This is true, which is why I was trying to say that in order to move our players we need to attach things other teams would want to them.

[Slim Tubby]

Other teams are also aware of the contracts our players have, and what we are trying to do. Why would they go out of their way to help us? If we want to move Dieng, it could cost Okogie (just an example). If you aren't willing to give up Okoge, then you are stuck with Dieng and can't complain about it. That can be said for each of the contracts that people want to be moved.

If you look at how Wizards traded for Bonga, Wagner, and Jones for Lakers to get space for max contract, it doesn't seem like teams are concerned with helping other teams if they see it positively for them. Dieng and unprotected first to a team far from contention and an unappealing FA destination (which seems like there are many teams) is feasible as Dieng is an expiring contract next year

Boy...an overpaid but productive player and an unprotected FRP is way too much for anyone to consider reasonably IMO.


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