Wizards 2019 Offseason Thread

[Illmatic12]

Here's a comprehensive updated look at our cap sheet, including recent signings of Hachimura, Smith, Thomas. You won't find a better salary cap resource online than this:

https://earlybirdrights.com/salary-cap/was/2019-20/

$115.3M in guaranteed salary for 19-20.
In my opinion, the best available FA we could realistically sign with the DPE is Rondae Hollis-Jefferson. The other avenue we have to acquire a player is the Jonathon Simmons contract, which I think we could use to execute an S&T but not 100% sure how that would work.

[Rafael122]

Here's a comprehensive updated look at our cap sheet, including recent signings of Hachimura, Smith, Thomas:

https://earlybirdrights.com/salary-cap/was/2019-20/


In my opinion, the best available FA we could realistically sign with the DPE is Rondae Hollis-Jefferson. The other avenue we have to acquire a player is the Jonathon Simmons contract, which I think we could use to execute an S&T but not 100% sure how that would work.

If RHJ had a reliable jumper, count me in, but this team needs perimeter shooting.

[Illmatic12]

Here's a comprehensive updated look at our cap sheet, including recent signings of Hachimura, Smith, Thomas:

https://earlybirdrights.com/salary-cap/was/2019-20/


In my opinion, the best available FA we could realistically sign with the DPE is Rondae Hollis-Jefferson. The other avenue we have to acquire a player is the Jonathon Simmons contract, which I think we could use to execute an S&T but not 100% sure how that would work.

If RHJ had a reliable jumper, count me in, but this team needs perimeter shooting.

RHJ is effectively a small ball center on offense, which mitigates the lack of shooting because you can play him next to floor-spacers. And defensively he can switch onto any position, we really need a player with his defensive versatility.

He's a useful young player but fell out of Brooklyn's rotation because they want 3pt gunners at every position. He seems motivated to prove that he can be a competent shooter, why not give him the chance in Washington? Only 24yo and I think it'd be a mistake to pass if we had the chance to sign him.

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[nate33]

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If that's supposed to encourage me, it doesn't.

Yes, he made 10 in a row, but that's a very low release point and it takes him an eternity to get the shot off. His form is ugly too. He has a hitch in his release. The guy is a career 22% shooter from 3-point range and he shot 18% last season.

[Illmatic12]

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If that's supposed to encourage me, it doesn't.

Yes, he made 10 in a row, but that's a very low release point and it takes him an eternity to get the shot off. His form is ugly too. He has a hitch in his release. The guy is a career 22% shooter from 3-point range and he shot 18% last season.

It wasn't supposed to be encouraging. Just a little aside that I threw in there

It's easy to focus on what he can't do .. sure he's a non-shooter. But what he can do is play small ball C , finish, draw FTs on drives, rebound and defend multiple positions .

[gambitx777]

Apply for that exception means nothing. Other than it's basically a free MLE that the league can give us. We won't get dinged if he comes back this year if they give it to us and we still get to keep it if we trade him. It's just smart of us to try to get. If they say no they say no but if they give it too us great.

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[nate33]

It wasn't supposed to be encouraging. Just a little aside that I threw in there

It's easy to focus on what he can't do .. sure he's a non-shooter. But what he can do is play small ball C , finish, draw FTs on drives, rebound and defend multiple positions .

I automatically translate the term "smallball center" into "the guy doesn't have a position". I'm sure he would be useful at times when the other team doesn't have a legit big man on the floor and you want to go with a 5-man switch-everything lineup, but that's not all that common. And, in general, when you do go smallball, one of the reasons to do so is so that you can get 5 shooters on the floor and generate spacing. RHJ doesn't do that.

The guy is a bench role player. Sure, if he's available for a the BAE or something, it might be worth it. But I'd rather go after guys with a true position. Right now, I'm thinking Jabari Parker or Noah Vonleh.

[Illmatic12]

It wasn't supposed to be encouraging. Just a little aside that I threw in there

It's easy to focus on what he can't do .. sure he's a non-shooter. But what he can do is play small ball C , finish, draw FTs on drives, rebound and defend multiple positions .

I automatically translate the term "smallball center" into "the guy doesn't have a position". I'm sure he would be useful at times when the other team doesn't have a legit big man on the floor and you want to go with a 5-man switch-everything lineup, but that's not all that common. And, in general, when you do go smallball, one of the reasons to do so is so that you can get 5 shooters on the floor and generate spacing. RHJ doesn't do that.

The guy is a bench role player. Sure, if he's available for a the BAE or something, it might be worth it. But I'd rather go after guys with a true position. Right now, I'm thinking Jabari Parker or Noah Vonleh.

You go smallball to get 5 quicker players on the court who will outrace other teams in transition. RHJ can be useful in an uptempo lineup where he can run the floor for easy baskets, and make cuts off the ball.

Jabari and Vonleh are also bench/situational players . Let’s face it we’re scraping the bottom of the barrel here for these last few roster spots. I just don’t think it makes any sense to build a modern NBA roster without a single player who can effectively guard wings, and RHJ is one of the few FAs left on the market who can do that.

Are you not concerned about the defensive talent on the roster?

[nate33]

It wasn't supposed to be encouraging. Just a little aside that I threw in there

It's easy to focus on what he can't do .. sure he's a non-shooter. But what he can do is play small ball C , finish, draw FTs on drives, rebound and defend multiple positions .

I automatically translate the term "smallball center" into "the guy doesn't have a position". I'm sure he would be useful at times when the other team doesn't have a legit big man on the floor and you want to go with a 5-man switch-everything lineup, but that's not all that common. And, in general, when you do go smallball, one of the reasons to do so is so that you can get 5 shooters on the floor and generate spacing. RHJ doesn't do that.

The guy is a bench role player. Sure, if he's available for a the BAE or something, it might be worth it. But I'd rather go after guys with a true position. Right now, I'm thinking Jabari Parker or Noah Vonleh.

You go smallball to get 5 quicker players on the court who will outrace other teams in transition. RHJ can be useful in an uptempo lineup where he can run the floor for easy baskets, and make cuts off the ball.

Jabari and Vonleh are also bench/situational players . Let’s face it we’re scraping the bottom of the barrel here for these last few roster spots. I just don’t think it makes any sense to build a modern NBA roster without a single player who can effectively guard wings, and RHJ is one of the few FAs left on the market who can do that.

Are you not concerned about the defensive talent on the roster?

Vonleh is an excellent defensive player. And I think Brown and Schofield will become our wing defenders. Are they really any worse than Porter and Oubre were?

[Illmatic12]

I automatically translate the term "smallball center" into "the guy doesn't have a position". I'm sure he would be useful at times when the other team doesn't have a legit big man on the floor and you want to go with a 5-man switch-everything lineup, but that's not all that common. And, in general, when you do go smallball, one of the reasons to do so is so that you can get 5 shooters on the floor and generate spacing. RHJ doesn't do that.

The guy is a bench role player. Sure, if he's available for a the BAE or something, it might be worth it. But I'd rather go after guys with a true position. Right now, I'm thinking Jabari Parker or Noah Vonleh.

You go smallball to get 5 quicker players on the court who will outrace other teams in transition. RHJ can be useful in an uptempo lineup where he can run the floor for easy baskets, and make cuts off the ball.

Jabari and Vonleh are also bench/situational players . Let’s face it we’re scraping the bottom of the barrel here for these last few roster spots. I just don’t think it makes any sense to build a modern NBA roster without a single player who can effectively guard wings, and RHJ is one of the few FAs left on the market who can do that.

Are you not concerned about the defensive talent on the roster?

Vonleh is an excellent defensive player. And I think Brown and Schofield will become our wing defenders. Are they really any worse than Porter and Oubre were?

I’ve had my eye on Vonleh , he would be a good pick up but I’m doubtful that we can sign him. He’s played himself into a multi-year deal which Washington can’t offer.

Brown lacks the strength to guard bigger wings, and from what I know Schofield is not an NBA ready defender, plus he’s more of an SG-size than someone you envision guarding 3/4s. If either of them break out defensively that would be a huge unexpected bonus but we shouldn’t count on it. Same with Hachimura

[payitforward]

If that’s it. If it’s add IT then are done for the offseason I’d say I’m not overwhelmed. A little underwhelmed I guess after the early promise of some decent moved with the TPEs. Mildly whelmed.

In the Saty trade lost a guy I liked, an energizer bunny who was truly the catalyst for the unselfish “everybody eats” style of play that won us some games we had no business winning. We replaced him with future chances to select players. And the opportunity to upgrade our picks.

But then we recruited a couple guys in the back court who are filling out roster spots. Good guys. Hard workers. Good attitude. But not guys who will win us much. Still they don’t cost much. Other than losses and defensive problems. And a spot on the bench for someone who may be better over time.

In that respect I’d rather have the roster spot to land a breakout player from Summer league or the D league or who is hidden on another team’s bench behind a proven all star.

If PG was what we were looking for I was more intrigued by our UFA signings. Not just Justin. But Corey Davis who seemed like he had the moxie to rise above the chatter and signal noise that is the Summer League and show he had game at both ends. At least those two Justin and Corey are noted for being scrappy defenders.


We have needed PG defense for years. A guy who will pressure the point of attack and can keep in front of the speedy killers and make them work for their points. It’s demoralizing for your front court players and teaches them bad habits of leaving their man and floating in a no mans land underneath if they constantly have to spin to chase a quick guy who has broken through. That’s a foul more often than not if they try to defend from chasing. So why try to defend it. Coaches pull you when you get fouled.

But okay. At least we recruited those UFA players in the first place? And the guys ahead of them are cheap?

We still may trade Simmons. We still have a decent sized TPE. But if this is the shape of our roster. Yeah. We have no defense. No rebounding. And no one to exemplify how to play the right way at that end.

(Jones I guess? Who likely won’t play).

I really wish we could undo the Ish Smith signing and use that money to grab Noah Vonleh. Adding Vonleh and Davis to the rotation would certainly amp up the defensive intensity.

It's July 2d, how can we be done for the off-season? We're trying to get a disabled player exception, & we still have the Morris TPE (right...?).

We have 16 guys at this point, so obviously something is going to change. If my arithmetic is correct their combined salary = @$121.5m (I'm estimating $1m each for Schofield & Robinson). Do I have that about right, nate?

Is Ish fully guaranteed for both seasons, btw?

[Illmatic12]

Vonleh signs for 1yr/$2M.. Lakers and Bulls had interest but it looks like he prioritized playing time, he can have a large role in Minny's frontcourt

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Also, if that's the market for Vonleh then I'm optimistic we can sign RHJ or Jabari on a 1yr deal for relative pennies.

[Illmatic12]

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[keynote]

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Smart by Green. He's already established himself as a beloved Wizards alum as far as this organization is concerned. He can spend the twilight of his career on playoff teams, and still be assured a cushy media or front office gig in DC when he retires, based on the strength of a short cup of coffee on our roster and his eternally-valuable "local ties."

[truwizfan4evr]

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Smart by Green. He's already established himself as a beloved Wizards alum as far as this organization is concerned. He can spend the twilight of his career on playoff teams, and still be assured a cushy media or front office gig in DC when he retires, based on the strength of a short cup of coffee on our roster and his eternally-valuable "local ties."

This jazz team looking scary now they added Conley,Bogan and uncle Jeff. They got offensive players to help Mitchell.

[Mojo Amok]

I was thinking Utah would be a perfect on-court fit for Jeff just based on his issues being mitigated by Gobert's presence. I wasn't thinking that he would actually go just because he probably would prefer a major market city, but that's a great get for the Jazz. That's going to be a really easy team to root for next year.

[payitforward]

If we had any way to do it, I'd love to steal Jake Layman from Portland. Probably not, however....

[80sballboy]

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[gambitx777]

Jake layman and Stanley Johnson as well as Johannes Voigtmann, remain on the top of my wish list. If we get that exception it make that easier to pull off. Bringing in those three and cutting McRae, TP, Simmons and getting howard off the books valences the team out nicely

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[SUPERBALLMAN]

Here's a comprehensive updated look at our cap sheet, including recent signings of Hachimura, Smith, Thomas. You won't find a better salary cap resource online than this:

https://earlybirdrights.com/salary-cap/was/2019-20/

$115.3M in guaranteed salary for 19-20.
In my opinion, the best available FA we could realistically sign with the DPE is Rondae Hollis-Jefferson. The other avenue we have to acquire a player is the Jonathon Simmons contract, which I think we could use to execute an S&T but not 100% sure how that would work.

I completely forgot about acquiring Jonathon Simmons !!