Thunder Offseason Thread

spearsy23 · Post #2141 » by **spearsy23** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 1:09 pm

Old Man Game wrote:Anyone know if SGA was slated to be at Summer League for the Clips? I presume he won't make an appearance beyond the bench for us.

He wasn't. Way too good for it.

Post #2142 » by **ThunderBolt** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 1:09 pm

spearsy23 wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:

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Presti deserves a lot of credit here. It sounds like he got Toronto into the bidding, which is likely why the price was so high.

This is why I'm so torn on sam. It's like he's this diabolical genius at times that morphs into Ernie Grunfeld after he's shocked the world.

I think he's between worlds. Acquiring talent and assets is something he's REALLY good at, but putting the finishing touches around those assets and making sure they fit together is a problem. He's been much better when not trying to walk that 'sustainability vs winning' line.

Agreed. I think the deal really was the perfect storm with the clock ticking for LAC and the raptors in on the deal. I'm not sure this deal happens if teams didn't feel the pressure of missing out on a deal.

Old Man Game · Post #2143 » by **Old Man Game** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 1:10 pm

spearsy23 wrote:
Old Man Game wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote: This is why I'm so torn on sam. It's like he's this diabolical genius at times that morphs into Ernie Grunfeld after he's shocked the world.

Not to dump on Presti but let's not get too excited. He was playing with a full house from the sound of it. That hasn't been the case in awhile around here.

But you play the cards you're dealt, and he got them to keep adding to the pot.

Definitely. He did good. I'm very happy with the return. Just not to go overboard analyzing it.

spearsy23 · Post #2144 » by **spearsy23** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 1:11 pm

Old Man Game wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:So russ was part of what Presti offered? Hope we can trade Russ ASAP

Did they ask Russ' permission to trade him there before offering that or nah?

I would guarantee it, especially since shams reported George and Russ were both dissatisfied. Also proves that pg's request wasn't to get away from Russ.

Post #2145 » by **ThunderBolt** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 1:12 pm

Old Man Game wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:So russ was part of what Presti offered? Hope we can trade Russ ASAP

Did they ask Russ' permission to trade him there before offering that or nah?

I'll take "who cares?" for $200 alex.

Post #2146 » by **Dadouv47** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 1:14 pm

At this point we already know :
- PG13 wanted to leave and to play with Kawhi
- PG13 was fine to keep playing with Russ
- Russ and PG13 both unhappy and wanted to leave

Feel like always Russ is going to be screwed

spearsy23 · Post #2147 » by **spearsy23** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 1:14 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:
Old Man Game wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:So russ was part of what Presti offered? Hope we can trade Russ ASAP

Did they ask Russ' permission to trade him there before offering that or nah?

I'll take "who cares?" for $200 alex.

I would think everyone. It's going to be a pretty big indicator of rather we're looking to maximize value or do what's best for him.

Post #2148 » by **slick_watts** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 1:14 pm

Old Man Game wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:So russ was part of what Presti offered? Hope we can trade Russ ASAP

Did they ask Russ' permission to trade him there before offering that or nah?

no.

Post #2149 » by **ThunderBolt** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 1:14 pm

spearsy23 wrote:
Old Man Game wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:So russ was part of what Presti offered? Hope we can trade Russ ASAP

Did they ask Russ' permission to trade him there before offering that or nah?

I would guarantee it, especially since shams reported George and Russ were both dissatisfied. Also proves that pg's request wasn't to get away from Russ.

This puts to bed the idea that we will still try to build around russ. He gone.

Post #2150 » by **Dadouv47** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 1:16 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:
Old Man Game wrote:
Did they ask Russ' permission to trade him there before offering that or nah?

I would guarantee it, especially since shams reported George and Russ were both dissatisfied. Also proves that pg's request wasn't to get away from Russ.

This puts to bed the idea that we'll still try to build around russ. He gone.

Not sure this year though. Well he will do his best to get traded ASAP.

Old Man Game · Post #2151 » by **Old Man Game** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 1:17 pm

Wonder if a player's agent has ever informed him of the Thunder's contract offer in free agency and said, 'and don't forget, this is the same team that fully guaranteed Ronnie Price's camp deal and had to pay him 2 full years. They really do right by players.'

Player: "Wow. Give me that contract. I'm ready to sign."

Post #2152 » by **ThunderBolt** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 1:17 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:I would guarantee it, especially since shams reported George and Russ were both dissatisfied. Also proves that pg's request wasn't to get away from Russ.

This puts to bed the idea that we'll still try to build around russ. He gone.

Not sure this year though. Well he will do his best to get traded ASAP.

It has to be this year. We can't risk him having another knee surgery.

spearsy23 · Post #2153 » by **spearsy23** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 1:18 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:
Old Man Game wrote:
Did they ask Russ' permission to trade him there before offering that or nah?

I would guarantee it, especially since shams reported George and Russ were both dissatisfied. Also proves that pg's request wasn't to get away from Russ.

This puts to bed the idea that we will still try to build around russ. He gone.

Kinda with dadouv here, I'm not sure he is. I don't know that there's a trade that makes sense right now.

He should get in on that Golden State/Brooklyn s&t. That would be hilarious.

spearsy23 · Post #2154 » by **spearsy23** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 1:19 pm

Old Man Game wrote:Wonder if a player's agent has ever informed him of the Thunder's contract offer in free agency and said, 'and don't forget, this is the same team that fully guaranteed Ronnie Price's camp deal and had to pay him 2 full years. They really do right by players.'

Player: "Wow. Give me that contract. I'm ready to sign."

Probably Ronnie price

Post #2155 » by **Dadouv47** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 1:21 pm

Knicks could attract a star next year and gamble on Westbrook for a year. Not many teams are in a good position to trade for Russ right now.

Old Man Game · Post #2156 » by **Old Man Game** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 1:22 pm

spearsy23 wrote:
Old Man Game wrote:Wonder if a player's agent has ever informed him of the Thunder's contract offer in free agency and said, 'and don't forget, this is the same team that fully guaranteed Ronnie Price's camp deal and had to pay him 2 full years. They really do right by players.'

Player: "Wow. Give me that contract. I'm ready to sign."

Probably Ronnie price

And then Ronnie's agent was like, Ronnie, Ronnie wake up. You fell asleep in my office again. You've got to find your own place.

spearsy23 · Post #2157 » by **spearsy23** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 1:24 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:Knicks could attract a star next year and gamble on Westbrook for a year. Not many teams are in a good position to trade for Russ right now.

You should take a look at next year's free agency class. Woof.

Post #2158 » by **slick_watts** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 1:24 pm

i trust all the kd haters hate paul george now too, right?

Post #2159 » by **Dadouv47** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 1:24 pm

If Russ isn't traded in 2-3 days I think it's safe to say he will stay at least until the trade deadline

Post #2160 » by **Dadouv47** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 1:26 pm

slick_watts wrote:i trust all the kd haters hate paul george now too, right?

Nope. PG13 wanted to join LA and ended up staying 2 years in OKC.