NBA TV just broke some news: Tyus Jones agrees to contract with Memphis

Loyal[]Wolf · Post #141 » by **Loyal[]Wolf** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:14 am

Thank God! Great job Rosas, a Timberwolves GM with a brain for once. Wish you the best Tyus in Memphis.

SO_MONEY · Post #142 » by **SO_MONEY** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:14 am

TheDominator273 wrote:What a **** decision it was to not match this. Grizzlies gifted us a deal keeping us under the luxury tax with a fair contract for a top backup PG in the league.

I don't see him as a top back-up. He is a severely limited player and MEM overpaid. Bon Voyage!

wolves_89 · Post #143 » by **wolves_89** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:14 am

Klomp wrote:
wolves_89 wrote:I can't say that I'm pleased with our Teague/Napier PG rotation. Watching Jeff Teague dribble the shot clock away while accomplishing absolutely nothing is painful to watch, so I had high hopes that the Wolves would do something to upgrade the PG position. Unfortunately it looks like we downgraded, while also reducing our depth and having nobody that is likely to be around after this season. I liked the talk coming out of Rosas (going after DLO and rumors of wanting Garland), I just really don't like the results.

I don't think this is a finished product yet, even if that PG group opens the season. I think they're looking down the road, not just at this season. Tyus fills a need this season, but I bet his contract would've gotten in the way in future seasons.

I think Jones contract will have neutral to slightly positive value after this season. I don't really see the Wolves doing much in free agency, so any significant improvement is likely to be through a trade and Jones contract could be a small asset or at worst salary filler in a deal. I just don't see the downside of matching him.

KGdaBom · Post #144 » by **KGdaBom** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:17 am

If we had signed him for 4 $25 million when we had the chance I would be in favor of it. Now that it's 3 $28 million that is simply too rich. Good luck Tyus.

Post #145 » by **Klomp** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:18 am

SO_MONEY wrote:The shame in this is we didn't trade him when we had the chance.

Sure, but I'm fine that Rosas didn't want to compound Thibs' mistake by making his own

Loyal[]Wolf · Post #146 » by **Loyal[]Wolf** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:19 am

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SO_MONEY · Post #147 » by **SO_MONEY** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:20 am

Klomp wrote:
SO_MONEY wrote:The shame in this is we didn't trade him when we had the chance.

Sure, but I'm fine that Rosas didn't want to compound Thibs' mistake by making his own

Absolutely, just an observation.

Murphs56 · Post #148 » by **Murphs56** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:21 am

This was the right move

MN7725 · Post #149 » by **MN7725** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:22 am

Loyal[]Wolf wrote:

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nice that they at least have a plan/goal if true

i just doubt Wolves will do better in 2020 FA then they did in 2017 FA

Post #150 » by **Klomp** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:24 am

wolves_89 wrote:I think Jones contract will have neutral to slightly positive value after this season. I don't really see the Wolves doing much in free agency, so any significant improvement is likely to be through a trade and Jones contract could be a small asset or at worst salary filler in a deal. I just don't see the downside of matching him.

I don't see it the same way. I think the contract he got is the high end of his price range. I don't really see his contract being viewed as a bargain/positive value in a year, especially playing most of his minutes behind Morant.

And while you say we won't do much in FA because we're over the salary cap, every dollar added puts us one dollar closer to the luxury tax both this year and beyond. It would've limited our already-limited FA options that much more. Even as a possible trade piece for us during the season, I don't see it because of his price point for someone destined to be a backup.

Just wouldn't have been a very wise move. Only thing that really hurts right now is the #OneOfUs angle.

Piecake · Post #151 » by **Piecake** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:25 am

MN7725 wrote:
Loyal[]Wolf wrote:

Read on Twitter

nice that they at least have a plan/goal if true

i just doubt Wolves will do better in 2020 FA then they did in 2017 FA

Another way to use cap space is to be a facilitator to acquire draft picks.

Murphs56 · Post #152 » by **Murphs56** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:26 am

MN7725 wrote:
Loyal[]Wolf wrote:

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nice that they at least have a plan/goal if true

i just doubt Wolves will do better in 2020 FA then they did in 2017 FA

Next summer isn't a great class at all

Post #153 » by **Klomp** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:27 am

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Post #154 » by **Klomp** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:30 am

Murphs56 wrote:
MN7725 wrote:i just doubt Wolves will do better in 2020 FA then they did in 2017 FA

Next summer isn't a great class at all

Max cap space can be useful to acquire trade targets too, either ones already on a max or ones ready to start a contract extension. I don't have a list of names in front of me, but it's what the Rockets did when acquiring James Harden.

MN7725 · Post #155 » by **MN7725** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:32 am

Murphs56 wrote:
MN7725 wrote:
Loyal[]Wolf wrote:

Read on Twitter

nice that they at least have a plan/goal if true

i just doubt Wolves will do better in 2020 FA then they did in 2017 FA

Next summer isn't a great class at all

the year/class doesnt matter

wolves won't have a more attractive FA situation then they did in 2017 with newly acquired prime Butler and KAT at the time as "#1 player GMs want to build"

MN7725 · Post #156 » by **MN7725** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:37 am

Piecake wrote:
MN7725 wrote:
Loyal[]Wolf wrote:

Read on Twitter

nice that they at least have a plan/goal if true

i just doubt Wolves will do better in 2020 FA then they did in 2017 FA

Another way to use cap space is to be a facilitator to acquire draft picks.

true, but garbage usually comes attached with those picks

become capped out again for a pick in the late teens/20s

Post #157 » by **Klomp** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:37 am

Quick math....

The 2020-21 salary cap is projected at $118 million, last I saw. That would put the rookie extension max slot at $29,500,000. Which means the goal is to get our 2020 cap down from $99,540,316 to $88,500,000. That's actually pretty doable.

Murphs56 · Post #158 » by **Murphs56** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:39 am

This move tells me Rosas is going to do everything he can to get out from some of those bad contracts this season.

KGdaBom · Post #159 » by **KGdaBom** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:39 am

Klomp wrote:

Read on Twitter

That is very true. Wolves/Vikings/Twins have always been to cowardly to make the tough decision and just let the player go. Anthony Barr for example.

Loyal[]Wolf · Post #160 » by **Loyal[]Wolf** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:44 am

KGdaBom wrote:
Klomp wrote:

Read on Twitter

That is very true. Wolves/Vikings/Twins have always been to cowardly to make the tough decision and just let the player go. Anthony Barr for example.

We finally have a GM with balls for once... :lol: