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Free Agency 19- PtIII (The endgame!)

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Re: Free Agency 19- PtIII (The endgame!) 

Post#161 » by kblo247 » Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:12 am

tugs wrote:What's with the hate I mean do you expect KCP to be featured in the offense? He'll focus on shutting down opposing PGs and SGs that can't bully him down low. It's not like he'll play the whole 48 minutes. And he had a resurgence late in the RS and it's possible he'll build on that.

He's a specialist, my goodness. Some of you act like we overpaid for an underachieving/going down hill, has been superstar to save the franchise. C'mon.

People can also say KCP started bad but he basically went to his career averages and ended the year like he played the year before.

Fact is KCP wasn’t given the rope Hart got. He wasn’t the automatic starting SG fill in, Hart was. He got benched when he did dumb **** like foul a jump shooter while Hart hit 3pt guys left and right and stayed out there. KCP was mis managed, but he was basically his averages despite it.
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Re: Free Agency 19- PtIII (The endgame!) 

Post#162 » by Spens1 » Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:14 am

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KCP is already making under 10m per year lol


we can hold off on a minimum deal or two for now to bring in Morris (maybe delay the official Bradley signing).

Better than signing on a below average player like KCP for two more years.

This whole principle is fn stupid.

1 - KCP is better than Morris and has been most his career, especially defensively a

2 - Morris doesn’t want to be a laker as he laughed at the thought on Twitter

3 - Pelinka isn’t looking bad or making Jeanie look bad by taking away a deal from a laker whose been here going on 3 years, hasn’t caused a problem, and who hasn’t failed a physical

4 - Rich Paul and Klutch isn’t **** over one client in KCP for another client in Morris and costing himself


Rich Paul is an agent and they're not paying Bullock, you don't think he can't get his client paid in New York. Also how is KCP better than Morris. Morris averaged nearly 15PPG last year whilst the other, who is meant to be a 3&D player, was shooting badly beyond the arc and not even doing that great on defense.
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Re: Free Agency 19- PtIII (The endgame!) 

Post#163 » by kblo247 » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:56 am

Morris averages 14 and 6 as a starting 4, shoots 46% and 37% from three. KCP was a backup SG behind Ingram and averages 11 and made 0.1 less than Morris. Their shooting averages are simply different because kcp took 2 less shots a night while playing 4 less mins as a backup. KCP also beat him by 4 percentage points shooting 2s and was the better free throw shooter. Morris also had he lower defensive rating of the two. KCP is also 25 to his 29. KCP is better. Make him a starter, and he’s better than Morris who when he was a bench player in his career was an 11 and 4 guy himself.

And why the hell would kcp go to NY and lose his bird rights as a player? What benefits kcp in giving up his own rights, giving up his ability need to approve any trade invoking him, and uprooting his life? So yeah it’s nonsensical
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Re: Free Agency 19- PtIII (The endgame!) 

Post#164 » by lazybatman » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:58 am

Are we really gonna let Korver slip out.. waive the rooks, Troy Daniels, etc. Make it happen man!!
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Re: Free Agency 19- PtIII (The endgame!) 

Post#165 » by lazybatman » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:00 am

kblo247 wrote:Morris averages 14 and 6 as a starting 4, shoots 46% and 37% from three. KCP was a backup SG behind Ingram and averages 11 and made 0.1 less than Morris. Their shooting averages are simply different because kcp took 2 less shots a night while playing 4 less mins as a backup. KCP also beat him by 4 percentage points shooting 2s and was the better free throw shooter. Morris also had he lower defensive rating of the two. KCP is also 25 to his 29. KCP is better. Make him a starter, and he’s better than Morris who when he was a bench player in his career was an 11 and 4 guy himself.

And why the hell would kcp go to NY and lose his bird rights as a player? What benefits kcp in giving up his own rights, giving up his ability need to approve any trade invoking him, and uprooting his life? So yeah it’s nonsensical


That's some nice factual data. I've been giving KCP a hard time myself, for no reason apparently.

And, I agree, he does try on defense.
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Post#166 » by LakersSoul » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:35 am

lazybatman wrote:Are we really gonna let Korver slip out.. waive the rooks, Troy Daniels, etc. Make it happen man!!


Troy Daniels is as good of a shooter as Korver and younger. As for rookies, THT could take a 2-way which would free us to take Korver and Iggy.

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Re: Free Agency 19- PtIII (The endgame!) 

Post#167 » by King23James » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:59 am

Korver cannot defend at this age, he be easily worst defender on our team..
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Re: Free Agency 19- PtIII (The endgame!) 

Post#168 » by MadNESS » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:01 am

I say it’s Iggy or no one (we save a roster spot).
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Re: Free Agency 19- PtIII (The endgame!) 

Post#169 » by zimpy27 » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:30 am

Iggy is the perfect fit, adds another wing defender and playmaker with playoff experience.
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Re: Free Agency 19- PtIII (The endgame!) 

Post#170 » by Beethoven » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:08 am

kblo247 wrote:Morris averages 14 and 6 as a starting 4, shoots 46% and 37% from three. KCP was a backup SG behind Ingram and averages 11 and made 0.1 less than Morris. Their shooting averages are simply different because kcp took 2 less shots a night while playing 4 less mins as a backup. KCP also beat him by 4 percentage points shooting 2s and was the better free throw shooter. Morris also had he lower defensive rating of the two. KCP is also 25 to his 29. KCP is better. Make him a starter, and he’s better than Morris who when he was a bench player in his career was an 11 and 4 guy himself.

And why the hell would kcp go to NY and lose his bird rights as a player? What benefits kcp in giving up his own rights, giving up his ability need to approve any trade invoking him, and uprooting his life? So yeah it’s nonsensical

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Post#171 » by NBAWestFan » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:20 pm

Iggy sounds good

I would call Kobe at 40 before Korver at 38. Kobe at the end of the season.

I bet he could do some damage come playoff time better than Korver could.

Seems unlikely but 38 or 40 there is not alot of difference
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Post#172 » by Penberthy » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:35 pm

NBAWestFan wrote:Iggy sounds good

I would call Kobe at 40 before Korver at 38. Kobe at the end of the season.

I bet he could do some damage come playoff time better than Korver could.

Seems unlikely but 38 or 40 there is not alot of difference


Kobe legs' mileage is more a 60 year old. Korver has been standing at the 3pt line and jogging around his entire career. Big difference
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Re: Free Agency 19- PtIII (The endgame!) 

Post#173 » by stan francisco » Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:01 pm

KCP is over rated. Loses focus after 2 minutes. Plays half assed defense when he wants to, seems to run a lot without deliberation and purpose. Don’t mistake activity for achievement. His shot last season was spotty at best, unreliable. For $8M per, keep him.

We have too many guards. He’s my least favorite based on the eye test.

Hart got PT because he at least played hard, and was a more versatile rotating help defender than KCP. KCP often stares himself blind on his own man and sees nothing else, gets caught on screens, then hangs his head.
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Re: Free Agency 19- PtIII (The endgame!) 

Post#174 » by BEazy » Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:40 pm

Looks like Iggy is going to the Mavericks. Trey Lyles is our target as of right now.
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Re: Free Agency 19- PtIII (The endgame!) 

Post#175 » by TyCobb » Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:04 pm

I like Lyles.
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Re: Free Agency 19- PtIII (The endgame!) 

Post#176 » by myersia » Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:38 pm

TyCobb wrote:I like Lyles.


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Re: Free Agency 19- PtIII (The endgame!) 

Post#177 » by lazybatman » Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:50 pm

NBAWestFan wrote:Iggy sounds good

I would call Kobe at 40 before Korver at 38. Kobe at the end of the season.

I bet he could do some damage come playoff time better than Korver could.

Seems unlikely but 38 or 40 there is not alot of difference


Korver shoots the 3 way better than most humans, including Kobe. Clutch af.

Great off the ball movement and gravity helps with the spacing for our bigs.

Suits Lebron's bench squads, that can turn 1/10 games upon it's head.
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Re: Free Agency 19- PtIII (The endgame!) 

Post#178 » by lazybatman » Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:51 pm

myersia wrote:
TyCobb wrote:I like Lyles.


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Re: Free Agency 19- PtIII (The endgame!) 

Post#179 » by LAKESHOW » Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:56 pm

Bring me iggy and morris. Who gives a damn about the cap. Get those 2 and we good. Stash a guard in Dleague...lol
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Re: Free Agency 19- PtIII (The endgame!) 

Post#180 » by Spens1 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:52 am

I'd love to get Iggy and Morris as the last two. help get KCP to the knicks (give him the Reggie Bullock deal).

However, i'd wait maybe on Iggy due to a potential buyout of CP3 (I can't see CP3 wanting to waste his last years in OKC), idk i'm taking CP3 if he's available and let Cook play a combo guard role (well, more of a combo role).

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