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Re: Woj: Malcolm Brogdon S&T to Pacers for Picks (NO TPE) 

Post#1201 » by Brewhoopfan » Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:04 pm

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MVP2110 wrote:Gotta say personally I love LOB. Easily my favorite podcast to listen. Eric can be a little arrogant at times but I think his takes are usually well reasoned and thought out. Frank is absolutely fantastic to listen too, my favorite Bucks twitter/podcast person. I do wish Nehm or Velasquez would break some news from time to time though


Why? Like who cares? I've read similar criticisms a number of times over the years about the local guys who cover our team. You realize there are just a handful of humans across the three major sports in this country who actually "break" news, right?


Maybe breaking news isn't the best way to word it. Rather I wish they could give legitimate insight and find out the specifics on details(ex, what 2nd round picks did we get, what is the guarantee on Hill's 3rd year). Someone National might not care about those small details but someone local should try and find out. Haudricourt is a great example for the Brewers, Velasquez always seems to be able to confirm stories, but let's see him actually find something out, even if it's small.


We're all spoiled. There was a time when I would suffer through most of the 10 o'clock news on a crappy over the air feed just to get the fu---ing score. Now get off my lawn!
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Re: Woj: Malcolm Brogdon S&T to Pacers for Picks (NO TPE) 

Post#1202 » by Matches Malone » Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:05 pm

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Pachinko_ wrote:To this day what puts me off the most about LOB is when Nehm says the word "interesting", which seems to be by far his most used word. Dude, it's a non-word that means exactly nothing, which is perfectly fine for everyone else, but if you want to make a living out of talking you gotta say something more meaningful than that.

Other than that I appreciate every effort to cover the Bucks, there's so little out there that I'm not going to complain about people having different opinions than me or sounding a bit arrogant at times. It is what it is.


interesting.


I’ll raise your ‘interesting’ with a Frank Maedden “And, again...”


Followed by a long-winded explanation without taking a breath. haha but I do love the Madden.
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Post#1203 » by kid idioteque » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:59 pm

Pachinko_ wrote:To this day what puts me off the most about LOB is when Nehm says the word "interesting", which seems to be by far his most used word. Dude, it's a non-word that means exactly nothing, which is perfectly fine for everyone else, but if you want to make a living out of talking you gotta say something more meaningful than that.

Other than that I appreciate every effort to cover the Bucks, there's so little out there that I'm not going to complain about people having different opinions than me or sounding a bit arrogant at times. It is what it is.


Also, the way he introduces the podcast is nails-on-a-chalkboard.

"Welcome... to... luuucked... onnnnn... buckssssss."

Just the worst.

Also, they still use that horrible "own the future" rock song lmao.
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Post#1204 » by crkone » Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:15 pm

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Pachinko_ wrote:To this day what puts me off the most about LOB is when Nehm says the word "interesting", which seems to be by far his most used word. Dude, it's a non-word that means exactly nothing, which is perfectly fine for everyone else, but if you want to make a living out of talking you gotta say something more meaningful than that.

Other than that I appreciate every effort to cover the Bucks, there's so little out there that I'm not going to complain about people having different opinions than me or sounding a bit arrogant at times. It is what it is.


Also, the way he introduces the podcast is nails-on-a-chalkboard.

"Welcome... to... luuucked... onnnnn... buckssssss."

Just the worst.

Also, they still use that horrible "own the future" rock song lmao.


Yeah I listed to like 10 seconds of that **** and have been skipping ever since to just after introductions.

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Post#1205 » by bizarro » Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:17 pm

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interesting.


I’ll raise your ‘interesting’ with a Frank Maedden “And, again...”


Followed by a long-winded explanation without taking a breath. haha but I do love the Madden.


Absolutely. His solo pods rock. He just has a speaking habit. We all do. Like, I say ‘f###’ a lot. Often with no context.
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Post#1206 » by bizarro » Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:19 pm

kid idioteque wrote:
Pachinko_ wrote:To this day what puts me off the most about LOB is when Nehm says the word "interesting", which seems to be by far his most used word. Dude, it's a non-word that means exactly nothing, which is perfectly fine for everyone else, but if you want to make a living out of talking you gotta say something more meaningful than that.

Other than that I appreciate every effort to cover the Bucks, there's so little out there that I'm not going to complain about people having different opinions than me or sounding a bit arrogant at times. It is what it is.


Also, the way he introduces the podcast is nails-on-a-chalkboard.

"Welcome... to... luuucked... onnnnn... buckssssss."

Just the worst.

Also, they still use that horrible "own the future" rock song lmao.


Not to be a douche, and again, but technically it’s “Wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww-ulcommme to Locked on Bucks’.
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Post#1207 » by Ron Swanson » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:58 pm

Jesus, this topic delved into....something. I guess some people want to listen to a monotone voice with no opinions on anything listing off analytic and box score data from an Excel spreadsheet for an hour long podcast. To each their own.
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Post#1208 » by StickeeFingaz » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:44 pm

kid idioteque wrote:
Pachinko_ wrote:To this day what puts me off the most about LOB is when Nehm says the word "interesting", which seems to be by far his most used word. Dude, it's a non-word that means exactly nothing, which is perfectly fine for everyone else, but if you want to make a living out of talking you gotta say something more meaningful than that.

Other than that I appreciate every effort to cover the Bucks, there's so little out there that I'm not going to complain about people having different opinions than me or sounding a bit arrogant at times. It is what it is.


Also, the way he introduces the podcast is nails-on-a-chalkboard.

"Welcome... to... luuucked... onnnnn... buckssssss."

Just the worst.

Also, they still use that horrible "own the future" rock song lmao.


Chill man, I believe a fellow RealGMer made that song.


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Post#1209 » by trwi7 » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:55 pm

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kid idioteque wrote:
Pachinko_ wrote:To this day what puts me off the most about LOB is when Nehm says the word "interesting", which seems to be by far his most used word. Dude, it's a non-word that means exactly nothing, which is perfectly fine for everyone else, but if you want to make a living out of talking you gotta say something more meaningful than that.

Other than that I appreciate every effort to cover the Bucks, there's so little out there that I'm not going to complain about people having different opinions than me or sounding a bit arrogant at times. It is what it is.


Also, the way he introduces the podcast is nails-on-a-chalkboard.

"Welcome... to... luuucked... onnnnn... buckssssss."

Just the worst.

Also, they still use that horrible "own the future" rock song lmao.


Chill man, I believe a fellow RealGMer made that song.


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Post#1210 » by StickeeFingaz » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:57 pm

trwi7 wrote:
StickeeFingaz wrote:
kid idioteque wrote:
Also, the way he introduces the podcast is nails-on-a-chalkboard.

"Welcome... to... luuucked... onnnnn... buckssssss."

Just the worst.

Also, they still use that horrible "own the future" rock song lmao.


Chill man, I believe a fellow RealGMer made that song.


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So?


Just showing some respect to GuitarGodDan (I think that’s his name).


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Post#1211 » by MVP2110 » Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:43 pm

I love that song tbh.
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Post#1212 » by kid idioteque » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:46 pm

StickeeFingaz wrote:
kid idioteque wrote:
Pachinko_ wrote:To this day what puts me off the most about LOB is when Nehm says the word "interesting", which seems to be by far his most used word. Dude, it's a non-word that means exactly nothing, which is perfectly fine for everyone else, but if you want to make a living out of talking you gotta say something more meaningful than that.

Other than that I appreciate every effort to cover the Bucks, there's so little out there that I'm not going to complain about people having different opinions than me or sounding a bit arrogant at times. It is what it is.


Also, the way he introduces the podcast is nails-on-a-chalkboard.

"Welcome... to... luuucked... onnnnn... buckssssss."

Just the worst.

Also, they still use that horrible "own the future" rock song lmao.


Chill man, I believe a fellow RealGMer made that song.


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That doesn't make it not bad.
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Post#1213 » by MickeyDavis » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:44 pm

Let's get back on topic. Thx
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Post#1214 » by jmart762 » Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:30 pm

Win in Six podcast, people.

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Post#1215 » by HaroldinGMinor » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:26 pm

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Post#1216 » by DavidDunn21 » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:15 pm

jmart762 wrote:Win in Six podcast, people.

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Post#1217 » by jmart762 » Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:35 am

Just in general. People complain about LOB (I've stopped reading unless I'm really craving Bucks content and I've exhausted everything else) so I want them to know about an alternative.
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Post#1218 » by 8305 » Sat Aug 3, 2019 7:47 pm

To summarize, everyone is pretty skeptical about Brogdan's ability as a pg. Tell me if makes things any better. I think the expectation will be to give George Hill type play. Once Vic returns we will have a ball dominate wing much like you guys with Giannis. George Hill manned the pg spot for us for four years. He brought the ball up the floor, ran some pick and roll, spotted up for three's and occasionally took the ball to the basket. Otherwise his task was to fit into an offense where the goal was to share the ball. How does Brogdan fit into that job description? You guys have seen both Hill and Brogdan. Would seem like you should have a pretty good feel for this.
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Post#1219 » by bizarro » Sat Aug 3, 2019 8:16 pm

8305 wrote:To summarize, everyone is pretty skeptical about Brogdan's ability as a pg. Tell me if makes things any better. I think the expectation will be to give George Hill type play. Once Vic returns we will have a ball dominate wing much like you guys with Giannis. George Hill manned the pg spot for us for four years. He brought the ball up the floor, ran some pick and roll, spotted up for three's and occasionally took the ball to the basket. Otherwise his task was to fit into an offense where the goal was to share the ball. How does Brogdan fit into that job description? You guys have seen both Hill and Brogdan. Would seem like you should have a pretty good feel for this.



The issue is and will be - until proven otherwise - Brogdon is not a PG. He can handle stretches of ballhandling in a movement oriented offense - ie bringing the ball up the floor as the pseudo ‘initiator’ - BUT he is extremely limited in any other capacity. He is smart, big, and talented. BUT, this sudden notion that he’s an NBA PG is kind of crazy. His role on the Bucks - one he was very good at - was nothing near George Hill’s role if you look at it. Brog Dog was entirely an off-ball player but for those few moments when he was the aforementioned ‘initiator’. His entire game was off-ball. Look at the metrics: literally his entire 3 point shot relies on over 6’ of distance from his defender. AND, he relied on that distance and slow load to attack the basket. He needed Giannis to gather gravity and defenders to rush out to his wide open space to shoot...To attack the basket. He was the third slasher behind Giannis and Bled. He’s an off ball player to the core. Couple this with the fact he is best suited guarding 2’s and 3’s - like he really struggles fighting over high screens from bigs - and Indiana is in for some sobriety.

This being said, they’ll adapt. Malcolm is smart. He’s a good player. He can be highly efficient given a proper role and the gravity of a superstar. But, there is definitely going to be a growing phase to find out how this all works pre-Oladipo. I really wouldn’t be surprised to see lots od minutes with TJ as the 1 and Malcolm slipping to the 2.
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Post#1220 » by soxperry » Sat Aug 3, 2019 8:17 pm

8305 wrote:To summarize, everyone is pretty skeptical about Brogdan's ability as a pg. Tell me if makes things any better. I think the expectation will be to give George Hill type play. Once Vic returns we will have a ball dominate wing much like you guys with Giannis. George Hill manned the pg spot for us for four years. He brought the ball up the floor, ran some pick and roll, spotted up for three's and occasionally took the ball to the basket. Otherwise his task was to fit into an offense where the goal was to share the ball. How does Brogdan fit into that job description? You guys have seen both Hill and Brogdan. Would seem like you should have a pretty good feel for this.


Brogdon does a few things very well (catch and shoot 3s, free throws, layups), but is very average in basically every other category. Im sure he can be effective if your coach plays to his strengths.

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