Jedzz wrote:Glut of Bigs, lean on PGs. I hope this means I'll never see two tiny PGs on the floor again when they go small.
Odds are good, considering there are only two players on the current roster listed at shorter than 6-foot-5.
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Jedzz wrote:Glut of Bigs, lean on PGs. I hope this means I'll never see two tiny PGs on the floor again when they go small.
tsherkin wrote:The important thing to take away here is that Klomp is wrong.
Esohny wrote:Why are you asking Klomp? "He's" actually a bot that posts random blurbs from a database.
Klomp wrote:I'm putting the tired in retired mod at the moment
Klomp wrote:Jedzz wrote:Glut of Bigs, lean on PGs. I hope this means I'll never see two tiny PGs on the floor again when they go small.
Odds are good, considering there are only two players on the current roster listed at shorter than 6-foot-5.
Jedzz wrote:Glut of Bigs, lean on PGs. I hope this means I'll never see two tiny PGs on the floor again when they go small.
Worm Guts wrote:I think it will be tough for both Dieng and Bell to get minutes. There’s only really room for one backup center.
DaKid wrote:Klomp wrote:Jedzz wrote:Glut of Bigs, lean on PGs. I hope this means I'll never see two tiny PGs on the floor again when they go small.
Odds are good, considering there are only two players on the current roster listed at shorter than 6-foot-5.
I have a feeling we're going to have times where there is no pg on the floor with Wiggins or another wing initiating the offense. I'm all for Wiggins getting time at point forward
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horaceworthy wrote:I don’t really see a glut. Reid’s a project that will hopefully spend most of the year in Iowa and aside from KAT and Gorgui they’re all essentially on minimum contracts.
One of Gorgui, Bell and Vonleh will likely end up unhappy with their minutes, that’s just the reality of using the 15 roster spots. Even in the pace and space era I’m not sure you can go into a season with less than 4 nba caliber bigs.
tsherkin wrote:The important thing to take away here is that Klomp is wrong.
Esohny wrote:Why are you asking Klomp? "He's" actually a bot that posts random blurbs from a database.
Klomp wrote:I'm putting the tired in retired mod at the moment
tsherkin wrote:The important thing to take away here is that Klomp is wrong.
Esohny wrote:Why are you asking Klomp? "He's" actually a bot that posts random blurbs from a database.
Klomp wrote:I'm putting the tired in retired mod at the moment
Klomp wrote:I think the interesting thing will be the minutes distributions, especially when it comes to someone like Towns.
His minutes actually dropped from 33.8 to 32.2 last year under Saunders, and that was with arguably less depth behind him. I think 32 is a pretty good number, but could see it even lower.
That's an easy way to ensure everyone gets their time.
I actually could see everyone get time.
Just as an example....
Covington (16) / Bell (16) / Vonleh (16)
Towns (32) / Dieng (16)
Jedzz wrote:Klomp wrote:I think the interesting thing will be the minutes distributions, especially when it comes to someone like Towns.
His minutes actually dropped from 33.8 to 32.2 last year under Saunders, and that was with arguably less depth behind him. I think 32 is a pretty good number, but could see it even lower.
That's an easy way to ensure everyone gets their time.
I actually could see everyone get time.
Just as an example....
Covington (16) / Bell (16) / Vonleh (16)
Towns (32) / Dieng (16)
I lke the idea of not running Towns into the ground full seasons.
Here's another idea. Don't use Covington at the 4 even that much. That too will help others get involved. Keep it to 10 minutes or less at the 4.
KGdaBom wrote:Jedzz wrote:Klomp wrote:I think the interesting thing will be the minutes distributions, especially when it comes to someone like Towns.
His minutes actually dropped from 33.8 to 32.2 last year under Saunders, and that was with arguably less depth behind him. I think 32 is a pretty good number, but could see it even lower.
That's an easy way to ensure everyone gets their time.
I actually could see everyone get time.
Just as an example....
Covington (16) / Bell (16) / Vonleh (16)
Towns (32) / Dieng (16)
I lke the idea of not running Towns into the ground full seasons.
Here's another idea. Don't use Covington at the 4 even that much. That too will help others get involved. Keep it to 10 minutes or less at the 4.
KAT should play at absolute minimum 32 minutes IMO. He's durable and has never given the tiniest hint at needing his load managed to that extent. Somewhere between 36 and 32 minutes is OK. The more Covington plays SF I bet it means the more Wiggins plays SG curtailing Culver's time on the court. I don't want that. RoCo should get at least 16 minutes at the PF.
theGreatRC wrote:Wonder if we'll see a motivated Teague since this is the last year of his deal & he gets to play in a "freer" offense that wants 3s, layups and fast movement.
Really scared for our PG rotation this year, but I still think we're saving ourselves for the eventual DLO trade
mplsfonz23 wrote:theGreatRC wrote:Wonder if we'll see a motivated Teague since this is the last year of his deal & he gets to play in a "freer" offense that wants 3s, layups and fast movement.
Really scared for our PG rotation this year, but I still think we're saving ourselves for the eventual DLO trade
This is what I think too. However, I hope we don't sell our future to GS for him. I think Rosas is trying to find a willing sucker to take Wiggins off of our hands, then goes all in to get DLO. That will be his best chance to keep KAT here long term.
I just hope it doesn't turn out like the KG/THud signing.
minimus wrote:mplsfonz23 wrote:theGreatRC wrote:Wonder if we'll see a motivated Teague since this is the last year of his deal & he gets to play in a "freer" offense that wants 3s, layups and fast movement.
Really scared for our PG rotation this year, but I still think we're saving ourselves for the eventual DLO trade
This is what I think too. However, I hope we don't sell our future to GS for him. I think Rosas is trying to find a willing sucker to take Wiggins off of our hands, then goes all in to get DLO. That will be his best chance to keep KAT here long term.
I just hope it doesn't turn out like the KG/THud signing.
Now I am thinking that all these Wiggins videos are promotional in order to trade him later.
P.S. If we can somehow manage to trade Wiggins with only one FRP attached to get DLo it will be an ideal scenario for us.
minimus wrote:KGdaBom wrote:Jedzz wrote:
I lke the idea of not running Towns into the ground full seasons.
Here's another idea. Don't use Covington at the 4 even that much. That too will help others get involved. Keep it to 10 minutes or less at the 4.
KAT should play at absolute minimum 32 minutes IMO. He's durable and has never given the tiniest hint at needing his load managed to that extent. Somewhere between 36 and 32 minutes is OK. The more Covington plays SF I bet it means the more Wiggins plays SG curtailing Culver's time on the court. I don't want that. RoCo should get at least 16 minutes at the PF.
I'm okay with KAT playing way below league average mpg, I'd keep RoCo under 30 minutes as well. I'm okay with reducing playing time after b2b games or games with overtimes or games after long travels. Keeping KAT and other guys healthy while playing competetive basketball should #1 priority
Playing time is valuable resource. Get maximum out of these minutes from KAT/Wiggins/RoCo trio, use minutes left to develop young players. Once our leaders are on the bench it should be up to our bench to step up, both in intensity and hustle.
I dont want to see meangless injuries that can hurt our season again.
Killboard wrote:minimus wrote:mplsfonz23 wrote:
This is what I think too. However, I hope we don't sell our future to GS for him. I think Rosas is trying to find a willing sucker to take Wiggins off of our hands, then goes all in to get DLO. That will be his best chance to keep KAT here long term.
I just hope it doesn't turn out like the KG/THud signing.
Now I am thinking that all these Wiggins videos are promotional in order to trade him later.
P.S. If we can somehow manage to trade Wiggins with only one FRP attached to get DLo it will be an ideal scenario for us.
That's not happening. We could dump Wiggins with only a 1st attached at some point, for a equally bad but shorter contract. Still the Warriors arent taking back whatever we got in return and would require at least Roco.
So would be Wiggins+1st+Roco+something else for Dlo and taking back bad money(for a shorter contract) at very least.
But I dont think a S&T for Russell this offseason was a big risk, basically because you were using Teague money for 75% of that contract. With him choosing the Warriors we keep our flexibility for 2021-2022 in case someone want to come here by then, so that's good. The bad is we lose 2 years of KAT extension in which I think would be competitive basketball with still plenty of upside.
Flexibilty before 2021-2022 will be bad no matter (except somebody is praying to get Dieng or Wiggins, highly unlikely to me) and I dont think anybody as good as DLo is getting here in the meantime without losing major pieces.
TheZachAttack wrote:I 100% think the best move is to play Covington as much as possible at the 4. We do have a glut of bigs, but we also have a glut of wings. There should be as few possible minutes with the starting group on the floor with two primary bigs. This opens up driving lanes for Wiggins, Teague, Culver, Okogie, etc.
I fully expect that there will be guys who are not happy with playing time between Vonleh/Bell/Dieng. I fully expect that those guys are largely Bell and Dieng. Dieng due to long-term fit on this team and Bell due to Vonleh being a better player.
I would rather play lineups with Towns/Teague + 3 of Covington/Layman/Wiggins/Culver/Okogie/Nowell than pair Towns with one of Vonleh/Dieng/Bell and take the wings off the floor.
I will gladly take the floor spacing and increase in switchability and mobility (on both sides of the floor) over the rebounding concerns and 1 on 1 defensive concerns in the post with the smaller lineup.
Lineups with 3 wings 100% allow our players to best maximize their skillsets and complement eachother rather than taking from eachother. I want Wiggins coming off a hand-off downhill with 1 guy (or none in the paint if Towns is spotted up) as his man trails him on his hip rather than driving into two bigs and having to slow down or move east and west and then dealing with 3 defenders, not being able to get all the way to the rim, and taking tough midrange shots.
May the best big win playing time (I am hoping it's Vonleh for the best long term team outcome) and let's fully embrace modern basketball.
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