Official 2020 Mets Thread, p. 50

[HarthorneWingo]

rosenthal saying mets thinking about trading noah and resigning wheeler. Now that would be smart IMO.

Wheeler you probably can get on a fairly reasonable deal and then you can get 3-4 major young pieces for Noah.

Rather than trading Wheeler for a non difference making prospect.

The deal that was reported was Thor and Frazier for Raphael Devers (Boston). I'm also reading that the Dodgers are super interested. Maybe we can start a bidding war. Wake up, Brodie.

Ha, looks like it's between the Padres and the Braves.

https://www.sny.tv/mets/news

July 26, 1:27 PM:

While lots of teams have engaged the Mets about trading for Syndergaard, their "current stance" is that only the Braves and Padres have farm systems that are loaded enough to put together an acceptable package for him, reports Joel Sherman of the New York Post.

According to Sherman, the Mets have let interested teams know that in addition to a few top prospects, they would also want a pitcher back in the deal that can enter their starting rotation immediately.

[mpharris36]

rosenthal saying mets thinking about trading noah and resigning wheeler. Now that would be smart IMO.

Wheeler you probably can get on a fairly reasonable deal and then you can get 3-4 major young pieces for Noah.

Rather than trading Wheeler for a non difference making prospect.

The deal that was reported was Thor and Frazier for Raphael Devers (Boston). I'm also reading that the Dodgers are super interested. Maybe we can start a bidding war. Wake up, Brodie.

Ha, looks like it's between the Padres and the Braves.

https://www.sny.tv/mets/news

July 26, 1:27 PM:

While lots of teams have engaged the Mets about trading for Syndergaard, their "current stance" is that only the Braves and Padres have farm systems that are loaded enough to put together an acceptable package for him, reports Joel Sherman of the New York Post.

According to Sherman, the Mets have let interested teams know that in addition to a few top prospects, they would also want a pitcher back in the deal that can enter their starting rotation immediately.

they have the two best farm systems

[Garbagelo]

Brodie is horrible and will get rekt in any deal

[HarthorneWingo]

Brodie is horrible and will get rekt in any deal

I know.

[HarthorneWingo]

Puppy Power! Jeff McNeil has become my favorite Met. Along with Alonso. And deGrom.

[blueNorange]

in this lost season, mets have a good farm system.

simeon woods richardson is probably their best pitching prospect and an unknown they drafted in the 8th round last year named kevin smith.

he’s already in double a and has a 2.97 era in 19 starts with 111 k’s in 88 innings to go along with it.

[mpharris36]

in this lost season, mets have a good farm system.

simeon woods richardson is probably their best pitching prospect and an unknown they drafted in the 8th round last year named kevin smith.

he’s already in double a and has a 2.97 era in 19 starts with 111 k’s in 88 innings to go along with it.

I would call it pretty mediocre it lacks top level talent especially talent that is soon to be major league ready. Hence why a Noah/Diaz trade could get them a return of 3-4 top 50 prospects which could be huge in a sellers market.

[blueNorange]

in this lost season, mets have a good farm system.

simeon woods richardson is probably their best pitching prospect and an unknown they drafted in the 8th round last year named kevin smith.

he’s already in double a and has a 2.97 era in 19 starts with 111 k’s in 88 innings to go along with it.

I would call it pretty mediocre it lacks top level talent especially talent that is soon to be major league ready. Hence why a Noah/Diaz trade could get them a return of 3-4 top 50 prospects which could be huge in a sellers market.

i mean you’re wrong but i’m not here for a debate.

they drafted 3 first round talents, SWR is gonna be a top 100 prospect and he’s not even 19 yet, anthony kay is good, and as i mentioned.l
kevin smith has been a great find.

[mpharris36]

in this lost season, mets have a good farm system.

simeon woods richardson is probably their best pitching prospect and an unknown they drafted in the 8th round last year named kevin smith.

he’s already in double a and has a 2.97 era in 19 starts with 111 k’s in 88 innings to go along with it.

I would call it pretty mediocre it lacks top level talent especially talent that is soon to be major league ready. Hence why a Noah/Diaz trade could get them a return of 3-4 top 50 prospects which could be huge in a sellers market.

i mean you’re wrong but i’m not here for a debate.

they drafted 3 first round talents, SWR is gonna be a top 100 prospect and he’s not even 19 yet, anthony kay is good, and as i mentioned.l
kevin smith has been a great find.

ok sure. I'm wrong

Kay is 24 years old and struggling in AAA. He is a middle rotation starter at best.

Like I said no one really major league ready. I like SWR a lot but he's in low A ball he is 2-3 year away from even thinking about contributing.

Gimenez is on the verge of dropping out of the top 100 for having a poor year.

When two of your most recent draft picks crack your top 5 overall prospects in your system it shows your system is light. It might be good again in a couple years. But right now it lacks up and coming impact players. That is a fact.

[blueNorange]

kay throws 95 mph and has a plus change, his small sample at syracuse means crap.

[blueNorange]

szapucki is also a great prospect when he’s healthy.

[mpharris36]

kay throws 95 mph and has a plus change, his small sample at syracuse means crap.

not one major source has kay as a 1-2 type starter. He is more Steven Matz than big time pitcher.

Nothing wrong with that. But he's not a rotation changer.

Also for a lot of our system pitchers can they stay healthy? Thats a major concern

The hope for Kay in 2018 was to get through his first pro season healthy and amass about 100 innings. He checked those boxes and more, logging 122 2/3 frames and finishing on the cusp of Double-A. It's put him in good position to start moving a bit more quickly in 2019 and eventually settle in as a mid-rotation-type starter.

[HarthorneWingo]

kay throws 95 mph and has a plus change, his small sample at syracuse means crap.

not one major source has kay as a 1-2 type starter. He is more Steven Matz than big time pitcher.

Nothing wrong with that. But he's not a rotation changer.

Also for a lot of our system pitchers can they stay healthy? Thats a major concern

The hope for Kay in 2018 was to get through his first pro season healthy and amass about 100 innings. He checked those boxes and more, logging 122 2/3 frames and finishing on the cusp of Double-A. It's put him in good position to start moving a bit more quickly in 2019 and eventually settle in as a mid-rotation-type starter.

Well, sometimes these scouts are wrong and players come up and dominate. If Kay is a 3, then he'd make a great 5. Except that Vargas is pitching lights out for us! Who would've thunk?

Matz pitched a complete game shutout tonight. deGrom was lights out his last start ... and has been pitching increasingly better over the past 6 weeks, I believe. The BP may need some adjusting. But, other than that, standing pat may not be a bad idea. I'm not sure I trust Brodie to pull off another major deal and the Wilpons apparently feel the same way.

We need a new manager and GM. Though Mickey has improved lately.

[reub]

I'm very worried about Brodie who has already proven his incompetence.

Trade Wheeler. Trade Vargas. Trade Smith. Keep Noah. Keep Edwin. Fire Mickey and hire Girardi. Fire Brodie.

[HarthorneWingo]

I'm very worried about Brodie who has already proven his incompetence.

Trade Wheeler. Trade Vargas. Trade Smith. Keep Noah. Keep Edwin. Fire Mickey and hire Girardi. Fire Brodie.

Why not just stand pat until we get a real GM? I'd try and resign Wheeler who's still young. I'd try and get that done now before he goes on a roll.

Vargas is pitching lights out right now. But, again, unless we're going to get something decent, let's see if we can go on a roll with these guys. I don't trust Brodie and Jeffy to pull the trigger on the bigger trades. Of course, if we are made an offer we can't refuse, then that's another story.

In the meantime, my mantra is "do no damage."

[blueNorange]

kay throws 95 mph and has a plus change, his small sample at syracuse means crap.

not one major source has kay as a 1-2 type starter. He is more Steven Matz than big time pitcher.

Nothing wrong with that. But he's not a rotation changer.

Also for a lot of our system pitchers can they stay healthy? Thats a major concern

The hope for Kay in 2018 was to get through his first pro season healthy and amass about 100 innings. He checked those boxes and more, logging 122 2/3 frames and finishing on the cusp of Double-A. It's put him in good position to start moving a bit more quickly in 2019 and eventually settle in as a mid-rotation-type starter.

kay is far from a finished product and has 2 plus pitches.

Read on Twitter

[blueNorange]

here’s tidbits from a guy with actual sources with the mets, this is the most depressing **** i’ve read.

Been busy with personal stuff lately and haven’t visited boards in a while, but figured I’d stop by with some things I’ve heard. You can blame ownership on Keuchel and Kimbrel. Front office was extremely interested, never got full green light to make move. Their Edwin Díaz asking price is insane. They want a player better than Kelenic plus another top prospect. There is a lot of regret in that room for trading Kelenic. Ownership is let’s say less than happy.

I feel like they are really screwing up this opportunity. They are spending more time trying to ourstmart all of the other teams in a Syndergaard trade then focusing on other moves like Frazier, Vargas, and wheeler. They are ready to move on from him. Brodie has never held him in the same respect as other top clients and ownership is beyond tired of his antics. He’s been spoken to numerous times and he still comes off immature. These are not my opinions or words. They are determined to bring back another pitcher because Fred and Jeff refuse to rebuild. Brodie told them numerous in the interview process that this wasn’t a rebuild and the Wilpons are holding them to it. From what I was told, the padres on numerous occasions made outstanding offers for Noah and Wilpons shot it down becsuse it was for prospects.

There is a lot of disconnect right now between multiple front office people and ownership. Brodie is playing all sides and things could get ugly. People also may have always given Jay Horowitz a hard time, but he took a lot of bullets for this franchise. With him gone there has been a noticeable lack of professionalism coming from this team. The Mets are in a bad way right now, and seem to be blowing some real opportunities to help this franchise due to the time they are wasting on Syndergaard talks.

Another thing that I find outrageous is that Fred is furious on how d’Arnaud is playing right now. He is holding this against the front office.

[JKNICKS67]

in this lost season, mets have a good farm system.

simeon woods richardson is probably their best pitching prospect and an unknown they drafted in the 8th round last year named kevin smith.

he’s already in double a and has a 2.97 era in 19 starts with 111 k’s in 88 innings to go along with it.

I would call it pretty mediocre it lacks top level talent especially talent that is soon to be major league ready. Hence why a Noah/Diaz trade could get them a return of 3-4 top 50 prospects which could be huge in a sellers market.

i mean you’re wrong but i’m not here for a debate.

they drafted 3 first round talents, SWR is gonna be a top 100 prospect and he’s not even 19 yet, anthony kay is good, and as i mentioned.l
kevin smith has been a great find.

ronny mauricio is also a top 100 guy- also keep an eye on junior santos a 6'8 17 year old pitcher who throws hard with great command and francisco alvarez a 17 year old catch with big time upside

[Jeffrey]

Holy cow, Cano is horrible. Is he injured?

[blueNorange]

Holy cow, Cano is horrible. Is he injured?

nothing is wrong, he’s just joined a long list of good players that just fall off the face of the earth one they become a met.