ShowtimeFan wrote:I do not believe the new Coach and his staff will keep the Matador-defense Luke ran last year, so yeah, it should MUCH better...
Agree. I don't know much about Vogel but his team's seem to play well on defense.
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ShowtimeFan wrote:I do not believe the new Coach and his staff will keep the Matador-defense Luke ran last year, so yeah, it should MUCH better...
Danny Darko wrote:Nice breakdown on Vogel's mission to fix the D:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2847145-can-frank-vogel-turn-around-the-lakers-defense?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_medium=referral
The Los Angeles Lakers were average defensively last year, and average does not win NBA championships. It won't even get you in the playoffs in the West.
dAdo dA dEvil wrote:The barometer on D will be LeBron. We all know that AD, McGee and Green are good defenders. If we start Bradley / Caruso at point then we will also be good at that spot defensive wise. If LeBron plays D this season then we'll be very good. If LeBron will play D like last year we'll still be good.
thebigbird wrote:dAdo dA dEvil wrote:The barometer on D will be LeBron. We all know that AD, McGee and Green are good defenders. If we start Bradley / Caruso at point then we will also be good at that spot defensive wise. If LeBron plays D this season then we'll be very good. If LeBron will play D like last year we'll still be good.
LeBron was above average on defense last year, don't let the twitter videos fool you. Top 10% in DRPM and above average to elite in almost every individual defensive category. If he plays on defense like he did last year then the Lakers will be great on that end with the new additions.
dAdo dA dEvil wrote:thebigbird wrote:dAdo dA dEvil wrote:The barometer on D will be LeBron. We all know that AD, McGee and Green are good defenders. If we start Bradley / Caruso at point then we will also be good at that spot defensive wise. If LeBron plays D this season then we'll be very good. If LeBron will play D like last year we'll still be good.
LeBron was above average on defense last year, don't let the twitter videos fool you. Top 10% in DRPM and above average to elite in almost every individual defensive category. If he plays on defense like he did last year then the Lakers will be great on that end with the new additions.
Definitely no twitter videos fool me. I don't have a twitter account either. I based on the games that I watched and he's definitely not an above average defender for me. But I think the addition of AD will motivate him to play D better than last year. As what I've said, we are already a good defensive team with AD, McGee, Green and Bradley / Caruso. If LeBron will step it up a notch than he did last year then we will be very good.
Ainosterhaspie wrote:A Bradley/Green/James/Davis core is going to be very good defensively. Not sure who the fifth would be for their best defensive unit, but that core can let you go big or small depending on the matchup.
James' recent defensive shortcomings are partially due to not having the right pieces around him. He's never played with a rim protector like Davis. That is going to help him. He should be able to play to his strength of being an off ball disruptor more.
This team could be scary good defensively if they want to, but given James' tendency to save himself for the post season, it may not really show until then.
zimpy27 wrote:I added up the defensive RPM scores of last season for the starting lineup of teams this coming season.
Caruso, Green, LeBron, AD, Cousins actually has the highest score in the league.
Defensive stats love Cousins, both seasons on the Pelicans he had the best defensive RPM and defensive rating per 100 with AD coming second both years.
The starting unit could be the number 1 defensive lineup in the league but the bench defense is very bad. Caruso had the worst defensive RPM of the Lakers starters at 0.77. Only two bench players had an RPM above 0, Dudley with 0.74 and McGee with 0.16.
What ranking would you give the defense of this team?
IAMRANDYMARSH wrote:zimpy27 wrote:I added up the defensive RPM scores of last season for the starting lineup of teams this coming season.
Caruso, Green, LeBron, AD, Cousins actually has the highest score in the league.
Defensive stats love Cousins, both seasons on the Pelicans he had the best defensive RPM and defensive rating per 100 with AD coming second both years.
The starting unit could be the number 1 defensive lineup in the league but the bench defense is very bad. Caruso had the worst defensive RPM of the Lakers starters at 0.77. Only two bench players had an RPM above 0, Dudley with 0.74 and McGee with 0.16.
What ranking would you give the defense of this team?
I think this team can be top 10 defensively and i think certain guys, such as Avery Bradley and KCP are going to surprise a lot of people. Stat-heads are generally low on Bradley but lot is due to injuries and his job on this team is going to be to harass small guards such as Curry and Dame, which he still can do. People have been hating on KCP to a point where he's starting to be a bit underrated in my opinion.
The one area where i do have some concerns are at the wing position. Lebron can turn it on and off, which is great, but Dudley is old, Kuz isn't great and we're too dependent on Danny Green in my opinion.
Max Headrom wrote:IAMRANDYMARSH wrote:zimpy27 wrote:I added up the defensive RPM scores of last season for the starting lineup of teams this coming season.
Caruso, Green, LeBron, AD, Cousins actually has the highest score in the league.
Defensive stats love Cousins, both seasons on the Pelicans he had the best defensive RPM and defensive rating per 100 with AD coming second both years.
The starting unit could be the number 1 defensive lineup in the league but the bench defense is very bad. Caruso had the worst defensive RPM of the Lakers starters at 0.77. Only two bench players had an RPM above 0, Dudley with 0.74 and McGee with 0.16.
What ranking would you give the defense of this team?
I think this team can be top 10 defensively and i think certain guys, such as Avery Bradley and KCP are going to surprise a lot of people. Stat-heads are generally low on Bradley but lot is due to injuries and his job on this team is going to be to harass small guards such as Curry and Dame, which he still can do. People have been hating on KCP to a point where he's starting to be a bit underrated in my opinion.
The one area where i do have some concerns are at the wing position. Lebron can turn it on and off, which is great, but Dudley is old, Kuz isn't great and we're too dependent on Danny Green in my opinion.
As someone that had to watch Bradley up until the trade deadline last year I can honestly say he was so frustrating to watch. He definitely isn't as good defensively as he was in Boston and he doesn't realize or embrace his role. He actually had the nerve to question Doc because he thought the offense should've ran through him more after being treated to the Grizzlies and I was dumbfounded by that.
He fouls a lot, gambles a lot and takes a lot of long two's. Just trying to temper expectations because it's not that I had really high hopes for him, I just didn't expect him to be as bad as he was last season.
what would jack bauer do? wrote:Max Headrom wrote:IAMRANDYMARSH wrote:
I think this team can be top 10 defensively and i think certain guys, such as Avery Bradley and KCP are going to surprise a lot of people. Stat-heads are generally low on Bradley but lot is due to injuries and his job on this team is going to be to harass small guards such as Curry and Dame, which he still can do. People have been hating on KCP to a point where he's starting to be a bit underrated in my opinion.
The one area where i do have some concerns are at the wing position. Lebron can turn it on and off, which is great, but Dudley is old, Kuz isn't great and we're too dependent on Danny Green in my opinion.
As someone that had to watch Bradley up until the trade deadline last year I can honestly say he was so frustrating to watch. He definitely isn't as good defensively as he was in Boston and he doesn't realize or embrace his role. He actually had the nerve to question Doc because he thought the offense should've ran through him more after being treated to the Grizzlies and I was dumbfounded by that.
He fouls a lot, gambles a lot and takes a lot of long two's. Just trying to temper expectations because it's not that I had really high hopes for him, I just didn't expect him to be as bad as he was last season.
Well, Bradley had a strong post all star, but then again guys always play harder when they're trying to showcase for their next contract. Which actually bodes well for us since he's on a short deal again.
An nba video coordinator (mo dahkil) on espnla says he's dropped weight and looks ready to have a good year. I hope that helps him in defending point guards and also finally having an injury-free season.
I think the revenge factor will be brought up to a max and he'll give us outstanding performances on opening night and on Christmas even if he has another worst case subpar season overall. And shoot, anything is better than having Rondo on the floor.
john248 wrote:Vogel wasn't the architect of the defense during his time with the Pacers which was why Bird considered him expendable.
john248 wrote:And that's just it. We don't know what he will bring in terms of his defensive schemes. It really isn't so much dissecting his defense from Indiana but rather he wasn't really the guy behind it at all as Bird kept Dan Burke as an assistant coach in charge of the defense for years. Really what we're hoping here is that Lionel Hollins can build this defense from the ground up even if it was David Joerger was really doing most of the heavy lifting back when the Grizzlies were making their run. Same when Lawrence Frank was an assistant coach under Kidd for a few months before Kidd got insecure and banned Frank from the bench.
Maybe this is a glass half empty point of view. But this coaching staff is a huge question mark and are tasked to come up with a defensive identity.