Jaylen Brown to Houston

babyjax13 · Post #1 » by **babyjax13** » Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:11 am

I've been wondering why we haven't seen anything with Iman Shumpert or Nene, and I think the answer is that Houston is $5.3 million below the tax apron. This leaves them just enough room to grab a player recently drafted to fill out their depth chart [they have some ung. players they can cut to push this up to about $16.1 million...but I don't think they want to cut all these players). Two names stuck out to me (as potential PJ Tucker "replacements"): OG Anunoby and Jaylen Brown. Went with Brown, as he's a bit more of a complete product.

Boston trades: Jaylen Brown
Houston trades: Nene/Shumpert, 2020 HOU 1st, 2022 HOU 1st

Protections would obviously be negotiated, but I expect both picks to be unprotected. Houston adds a young player that can be a pretty decent third option for them, while Boston clarifies their rotation, making room for Hayward/Tatum/Smart and the rookies to play the bulk of the minutes on the wings.

Houston rotation:
Capela/Chandler/Faried (if resigned)
Tucker/Brown/Hartenstein
Brown/House/Green
Harden/Gordon
Westbrook/Harden/Rivers

LarsV8 · Post #2 » by **LarsV8** » Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:39 am

Jaylen Brown isn't very good.

Maybe without the 2022 first, but two firsts is meh.

Magic_Johnny12 · Post #3 » by **Magic_Johnny12** » Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:54 am

PLENTY of teams could and will beat this offer.

Magic_Johnny12 · Post #4 » by **Magic_Johnny12** » Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:55 am

LarsV8 wrote:Shumpert/Nene isn't very good.

Maybe without the 2022 first, but two firsts is meh.

Fixed that for you bud.

LarsV8 · Post #5 » by **LarsV8** » Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:56 am

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
Fixed that for you bud.

Trades about picks not fillers

Magic_Johnny12 · Post #6 » by **Magic_Johnny12** » Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:59 am

LarsV8 wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
Fixed that for you bud.

Trades about picks not fillers

Those picks won’t net you Sterling Brown let alone Jaylen. C’mon dude.

LarsV8 · Post #7 » by **LarsV8** » Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:00 am

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
Those picks won’t net you Sterling Brown let alone Jaylen. C’mon dude.

Not interested, sorry.

Coxy · Post #8 » by **Coxy** » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:16 am

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:PLENTY of teams could and will beat this offer.

Absolutely. Ainge could get way more for Brown.

Drax · Post #9 » by **Drax** » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:00 am

babyjax13 wrote:... while Boston clarifies their rotation, making room for Hayward/Tatum/Smart and the rookies to play the bulk of the minutes on the wings.

Wait what? I don't get this, why has the rotation to be clarified? Boston will play small line ups all season, out of necessity and by design. Ainge build the rosters since he hired Stevens with one pattern in mind, one ball handler, three wings and one big man.

2017/18 opening night starting five: Irving - Brown - Hayward - Tatum - Horford
2018/19 opening night starting five: Irving - Brown - Hayward - Tatum - Horford
2019/20 projected starting five: Walker - Brown - Hayward - Tatum - Kanter/Theis

There is some consistency here. While Brown may be the player to be traded in the future, it won't be for picks and bit players. He only will be traded for a clear upgrade, otherwise i think consistency will prevail.

Post #10 » by **ThunderBolt** » Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:00 am

What’s the reason for Boston doing this trade? This seems like a very weak return.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #11 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:19 am

Hayward for EG/Capela they might do..

Chicago-Bull-E · Post #12 » by **Chicago-Bull-E** » Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:32 am

Terrible for Boston

j-ragg · Post #13 » by **j-ragg** » Sat Aug 10, 2019 1:11 pm

This would be selling way too low for Boston.

JRoy · Post #14 » by **JRoy** » Sat Aug 10, 2019 1:31 pm

This doesn’t seem realistic.

Houston’s in a tough spot; no trade assets they can really afford to deal, late draft picks and a number of holes in their roster.

Houston might be better served looking for players (with warts) that are affordable with the assets available.

That isn’t Jaylen Brown.

Karate Diop · Post #15 » by **Karate Diop** » Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:01 pm

Coxy wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:PLENTY of teams could and will beat this offer.

Absolutely. Ainge could get way more for Brown.

He'd ask for more but would he be able to pull the trigger if a competent GM counters with a more realistic proposal?

Ainge is gun shy and is so in love with certain guys on his roster that he's overvaluing them now...

NoZoLakers · Post #16 » by **NoZoLakers** » Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:51 pm

Ainge doesnt do well with late 1st

babyjax13 · Post #17 » by **babyjax13** » Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:58 pm

Drax wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:... while Boston clarifies their rotation, making room for Hayward/Tatum/Smart and the rookies to play the bulk of the minutes on the wings.

Wait what? I don't get this, why has the rotation to be clarified? Boston will play small line ups all season, out of necessity and by design. Ainge build the rosters since he hired Stevens with one pattern in mind, one ball handler, three wings and one big man.

2017/18 opening night starting five: Irving - Brown - Hayward - Tatum - Horford
2018/19 opening night starting five: Irving - Brown - Hayward - Tatum - Horford
2019/20 projected starting five: Walker - Brown - Hayward - Tatum - Kanter/Theis

There is some consistency here. While Brown may be the player to be traded in the future, it won't be for picks and bit players. He only will be traded for a clear upgrade, otherwise i think consistency will prevail.

I guess I see Tatum being most effective as a 3? I could be completely wrong. Also, I guess I'm projecting that 2022 pick to be higher than others are, and someone maxing Brown (which Boston might not match). IDK. Anunoby might be more realistic, then.

Post #18 » by **SmartWentCrazy** » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:17 pm

I dont see Boston trading Brown for future late firsts. Im guessing that they pivot after last season and look to further develop the player.

Djh7475 · Post #19 » by **Djh7475** » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:10 pm

Celtics already have 2 extra future 1sts (the Memphis one being a likely top 5 pick) along with a recent influx of youth as well as youth that we’re focusing on as focal points of our present future (which is where Jaylen falls). Carsen Edwards, Romeo Langford, Jaylen Brown, Jayson Tatum, Robert Williams, Grant Williams, and Semi Ojeleye are all young guys we believe in and expect to grow. Trading a young 2-way starting wing that we love for scrubs and future 1sts isn’t anything we’d be interested in.

All we need is an elite defensive young 5 like Capella which is what we’re hoping Robert Williams turns into, so him not being included makes the Celtics worse in the short and long term. I don’t see where this deal makes sense on any level.

Patsfan1081 · Post #20 » by **Patsfan1081** » Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:25 am

LarsV8 wrote:Jaylen Brown isn't very good.

Maybe without the 2022 first, but two firsts is meh.

Yeah that 18/5/1.5 he put up in the playoffs as a soph really showed the kid has no potential as a prospect. I'm not even sure why he got a invite to join the U.S. team.