NTB wrote:
I think the conclusion (he can be 3rd or 4th best player on a good team) is incompatible with the analysis.
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NTB wrote:
MathiasPW wrote:NTB wrote:
I think the conclusion (he can be 3rd or 4th best player on a good team) is incompatible with the analysis.
Crives wrote:The defense part was slightly encouraging to me...
I feel like Books effort on off ball D will improve when we don’t have drive the entire offense through him.
I am sure on ball defense will continue to improve... wouldn’t be surprised if Book is a + off ball defender in 3-4 years.
JDLAW wrote:The video analysis is terrible. It appears the guy went in with a predetermined message and then found the evidence could not let him be as critical as he wanted to be. I am getting so tired of the laziness of these people with their application of "empty stats" labeling. It is dishonest and disingenuous.
Edit - he got the 2pt FG percentage wrong also - it was actually 54%.
bwgood77 wrote:Crives wrote:The defense part was slightly encouraging to me...
I feel like Books effort on off ball D will improve when we don’t have drive the entire offense through him.
I am sure on ball defense will continue to improve... wouldn’t be surprised if Book is a + off ball defender in 3-4 years.
I don't know...he always seems to ball watch and completely not pay attention to his man...he really sags off of them too where he can't adequately close out in time.
His one on one defense can be solid, but all the off ball/team defense is what is concerning, which is also kind of what holds back Ayton and Oubre defensively. They can be good on ball but off it they can all get lost. Hopefully we see a lot of improvement here, but I think we will be hard pressed not to be bottom 2 or 3 defensively this year.
lilfishi22 wrote:More than ever....we are in the championship or bust endgame
Blonde wrote:If Jamal Murray can be the 2nd best player on a title contending team it’s ridiculous to say that Booker can’t be. I believe that Booker can be the best player on a good team, and the 2nd best player on a great team.
In2ition wrote:Here is the podcast that gave more info on the video he posted. TBH, I thought he missed the boat a little bit, when he didn't look into the numbers that Booker put up.
1. He didn't talk about not having an NBA level PG to relieve him and help him get open looks.
2. He didn't mention that he had the lost rate of open looks in the entire league.
3. He didn't mention that he had hand surgery on his shooting hand in training camp and missed the entire training camp and pre-season.
4. He also didn't mention that missing that time probably was a cause of the hamstring issues that he had and then those hamstring issues caused the back stiffness and issues.
5. Also, he didn't factor into his assist rates that he had the highest rate of potential assists that went unconverted in the league. All those things matter to the context of the type of player he is.
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lilfishi22 wrote:More than ever....we are in the championship or bust endgame
In2ition wrote:Ben is very smart and he is very good at what he does. I don't have a problem with him. Honestly, I've been waiting for this. I've heard him on podcasts before talking about Booker. He went in with a belief that Booker was a lot worse than he discovered. I still don't agree with him thinking that his ceiling is a 3rd or 4th option on a championship caliber team. He has an alpha mentality and turning him into a guy that becomes a 3 & D type of role player and not asked to do much other than shoot and score like he is JJ Reddick or Danny Green seems really shortsighted.
Another thing, the guys he compares to Booker aren't all that great or even have nearly the same stats and efficiency that Booker has had in his career so far.
darmani wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:More than ever....we are in the championship or bust endgame