Top 8 teams in the east

[Magic_Johnny12]

I'm expecting the Raptors to take a big step back this season.

Older Lowry, Ibaka and Gasol - , Norm + OG on your wings..... FVV as your back-up until Lowry gets injured then he becomes a starter and that will be hideous. Then the bargain basement dumpster diving collection Masai assembled in the off season. Looks like a throw-away season. Siakam is the only thing the current roster has going for it.

If Masai knows what he is doing (and I'm sure he does) he will try to get as much value out of his expirings as possible.

By deadline I could easily see Toronto imploding and selling the farm for picks and prospects and tanking for Lamelo <-- that was a joke haha

Lowry - 35m expiring

Gasol - 26m expiring

Ibaka - 23m expiring

FVV - 9m expiring

These are all big useful/impact playoff players, albeit on their last leg they could be a huge get for any playoff team.

How many playoff teams have both 20+mill in contracts to send out as well as assets to entice the Raps?

Bos
Mil
Det
Ind
Mia
Dal
Den
Hou
Lac
Min
Uta
Sas
Sac


A lot more teams then you think could make contracts work.

[Asif16]

I'm expecting the Raptors to take a big step back this season.

Older Lowry, Ibaka and Gasol - , Norm + OG on your wings..... FVV as your back-up until Lowry gets injured then he becomes a starter and that will be hideous. Then the bargain basement dumpster diving collection Masai assembled in the off season. Looks like a throw-away season. Siakam is the only thing the current roster has going for it.

If Masai knows what he is doing (and I'm sure he does) he will try to get as much value out of his expirings as possible.

By deadline I could easily see Toronto imploding and selling the farm for picks and prospects and tanking for Lamelo <-- that was a joke haha

Lowry - 35m expiring

Gasol - 26m expiring

Ibaka - 23m expiring

FVV - 9m expiring

These are all big useful/impact playoff players, albeit on their last leg they could be a huge get for any playoff team.

Chances of Raptors imploding this coming season is minimal at best. We have too much talent for that to happen. Honestly sounds like more of something you WANT to happen than something you believe will actually happen.

I dont expect us to dominating either but we're definitely not imploding.

[melo4three]

I'm expecting the Raptors to take a big step back this season.

Older Lowry, Ibaka and Gasol - , Norm + OG on your wings..... FVV as your back-up until Lowry gets injured then he becomes a starter and that will be hideous. Then the bargain basement dumpster diving collection Masai assembled in the off season. Looks like a throw-away season. Siakam is the only thing the current roster has going for it.

If Masai knows what he is doing (and I'm sure he does) he will try to get as much value out of his expirings as possible.

By deadline I could easily see Toronto imploding and selling the farm for picks and prospects and tanking for Lamelo <-- that was a joke haha

Lowry - 35m expiring

Gasol - 26m expiring

Ibaka - 23m expiring

FVV - 9m expiring

These are all big useful/impact playoff players, albeit on their last leg they could be a huge get for any playoff team.

Chances of Raptors imploding this coming season is minimal at best. We have too much talent for that to happen. Honestly sounds like more of something you WANT to happen than something you believe will actually happen.

I dont expect us to dominating either but we're definitely not imploding.

Except imploding is what yall should be doing. You don’t have a lot of good young talent and should be looking to acquire it fast before siakam gets old. Why waste time with a team that’s old and not a contender. Have them their championship tour get they rings and get assets at the trade deadline. Simple


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[Darth Celtic]

Preseason is 30 days away so now that the dust have settled who who got making the playoffs in the east

Here’s mine in order

76ers
Bucks
Celtics
pistons
Pacers
Nets
Magic
Raptors

not sure if I disagree about the teams. question your order a bit.

[Darth Celtic]

Regular season Raptors could take the top seed. Without Kawhi last season they were on pace for 64 wins, and they've added Gasol and OG plus good draft picks and FA signings, not to mention improvements in skill and confidence from Siakam, FVV and Powell.

Before Kawhi came to town, they were a 60 win team and the #1 seed. This team is built perfectly for the regular season and they have great chemistry and depth. Same core has been playing together for years.

There's literally no reason why they shouldn't win 55+ games. Anyone sleeping on them is just glancing past them with a (they lost Kawhi, easy 15-20 loss in the wins column). Kawhi only played 60 games last season. Anyone who does even a little bit of research will realize there's no legitimate reason why they shouldn't still be a 55-60 win regular season team. Playoffs of course, is another story.

Just remember that is super flawed logic. Remember KWL wasn't injured, it was load management. They got to pick the matchups to sit him on. Also, how many games did KWL and Green both miss? And going on a 70% winning rate in 20 game sample doesn't mean in 82 games you will still be on 20 game pace.

I'm not saying Raptors won't be a playoff team, but 55 games is kind of unrealistic unless they can pull off another big trade.

[LoveMyRaps]

1. Bucks
2. Raptors
3. Celtics
4. 76ers
5. Pacers
6. Magic
7. Heat
8. Nets

[The_Hater]

Lol ok instead of wasting time going back and forth, I’ll provide you with a quote from a recent Zach Lowe article talking about the Nets:

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27533126/is-big-two-better-big-three-nba-teams%3fplatform=amp

“The Clippers and Nets surround two stars with real depth that mostly skews young or toward guys in their primes. There is power and longevity in that model.”

See the “Real Depth” part? Let me guess, you are more knowledgeable about the NBA than Zach Lowe?

Let me guess: You don't know the Nets are without two stars this year. They got the 15th best player in the league surrounded by a bunch of role players. They're not going to do a darn thing this year.

In case you can’t read...Nobody said they were going to win the championship this year.

I hate to disturb a good rant, but you do realize that this thread is talking specifically about the current season? Nobody is making predictions for 2020-21 quite yet.

So with that in mind, I have no idea what point you were trying to make with your original post about the Nets having 2 stars?

[The_Hater]

It's shocking to me, that multiple people actually believe the Nets will be better than the Raptors.

Or having the Raptors as the 7th or 8th seed with Miami and Detroit above them.

It's almost as if people don't give any credence to the previous years performance at all. Raps roster is still near the top of the east quality.

I think that 6 different teams could finish as high as 3rd in the conference, this includes the Nets and the Heat but NOT the Pistons. I have the Pistons down around 35-37 wins.

That's not to say that some of those teams don't have much better odds of finishing 3rd than others, but I don't see a whole lot of a gap in between those 6 teams right now. Health. A couple of career years. Those factors can swing teams those 5-8 wins or losses that will greatly change where they finish.

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

Even the "top" teams, I don't have much faith in.

The east is bit of a mess this year.

[jlokine]

I'm expecting the Raptors to take a big step back this season.

Older Lowry, Ibaka and Gasol - , Norm + OG on your wings..... FVV as your back-up until Lowry gets injured then he becomes a starter and that will be hideous. Then the bargain basement dumpster diving collection Masai assembled in the off season. Looks like a throw-away season. Siakam is the only thing the current roster has going for it.

If Masai knows what he is doing (and I'm sure he does) he will try to get as much value out of his expirings as possible.

By deadline I could easily see Toronto imploding and selling the farm for picks and prospects and tanking for Lamelo <-- that was a joke haha

Lowry - 35m expiring

Gasol - 26m expiring

Ibaka - 23m expiring

FVV - 9m expiring

These are all big useful/impact playoff players, albeit on their last leg they could be a huge get for any playoff team.

Chances of Raptors imploding this coming season is minimal at best. We have too much talent for that to happen. Honestly sounds like more of something you WANT to happen than something you believe will actually happen.

I dont expect us to dominating either but we're definitely not imploding.

people have an obsession of NEEDING to get something and not allowing assets to walk.. honestly, if raptors are in playoff position, there's no chance lowry, gasol and ibaka are traded out. they are the type of assets you bring in for a playoff run. so if you have them for free (cause they r on ur team), i dont get why those people want to get rid of them.

[Stillwater]

1. Bucks
2. Celtics
3. 76'ers
4. Raptors
5. Pacers
6. Heat
7. Nets
8. Magic

[Hello Brooklyn]

Bucks
Sixers
Nets
Heat
Celtics
Pacers
Raptors
Magic

[RoyceDa59]

1. Bucks
2. Celtics
3. 76'ers
4. Raptors
5. Pacers
6. Heat
7. Nets
8. Magic

This actually looks the most realistic.

[Jadoogar]

I'm expecting the Raptors to take a big step back this season.

Older Lowry, Ibaka and Gasol - , Norm + OG on your wings..... FVV as your back-up until Lowry gets injured then he becomes a starter and that will be hideous. Then the bargain basement dumpster diving collection Masai assembled in the off season. Looks like a throw-away season. Siakam is the only thing the current roster has going for it.

If Masai knows what he is doing (and I'm sure he does) he will try to get as much value out of his expirings as possible.

By deadline I could easily see Toronto imploding and selling the farm for picks and prospects and tanking for Lamelo <-- that was a joke haha

Lowry - 35m expiring

Gasol - 26m expiring

Ibaka - 23m expiring

FVV - 9m expiring

These are all big useful/impact playoff players, albeit on their last leg they could be a huge get for any playoff team.

The problem with trading such large expiring is making contract match in a trade.

[Duffman100]

If Masai knows what he is doing (and I'm sure he does) he will try to get as much value out of his expirings as possible.

By deadline I could easily see Toronto imploding and selling the farm for picks and prospects and tanking for Lamelo <-- that was a joke haha

Lowry - 35m expiring

Gasol - 26m expiring

Ibaka - 23m expiring

FVV - 9m expiring

These are all big useful/impact playoff players, albeit on their last leg they could be a huge get for any playoff team.

Chances of Raptors imploding this coming season is minimal at best. We have too much talent for that to happen. Honestly sounds like more of something you WANT to happen than something you believe will actually happen.

I dont expect us to dominating either but we're definitely not imploding.

Except imploding is what yall should be doing. You don’t have a lot of good young talent and should be looking to acquire it fast before siakam gets old. Why waste time with a team that’s old and not a contender. Have them their championship tour get they rings and get assets at the trade deadline. Simple


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Maybe from a pure basketball standpoint, maybe.

But as management, maybe whatever you're getting back for your veterans isn't equal to another 2nd round or conference finals and the legitimacy and revenue that brings?

You go deep in the playoffs, maybe hope on an injury to a rival or late season acquisition and have an outside shot of making the finals again. That isn't the worst idea.

[JAYZGOAT]

Maybe learn to read properly first before you decide to be condescending in your posts.

Awkward for you.....

I'm not the one calling out the wrong poster because all I can see are team logos. You realize that different users can use the same logo, right?

I wa a referring to the Nets fan, not reload.

[GeorgeMarcus]

RS record:
Bucks
Sixers
Raptors
Pacers
Celtics
Magic
Nets

Odds to win Finals:
Sixers
Bucks
Raptors
Pacers
Celtics
Nets
Magic

[udfa]

1. Bucks
2. Sixers
3. Heat
4. Pacers
5. Celtics
6. Nets
7. Raptors
8. Magic

[Higgs Boston]

Bucks
Sixers
Celtics
Pacers
Raptors
Nets
Heat
Orlando or Atlanta

[XxIronChainzxX]

If Masai knows what he is doing (and I'm sure he does) he will try to get as much value out of his expirings as possible.

By deadline I could easily see Toronto imploding and selling the farm for picks and prospects and tanking for Lamelo <-- that was a joke haha

Lowry - 35m expiring

Gasol - 26m expiring

Ibaka - 23m expiring

FVV - 9m expiring

These are all big useful/impact playoff players, albeit on their last leg they could be a huge get for any playoff team.

Chances of Raptors imploding this coming season is minimal at best. We have too much talent for that to happen. Honestly sounds like more of something you WANT to happen than something you believe will actually happen.

I dont expect us to dominating either but we're definitely not imploding.

Except imploding is what yall should be doing. You don’t have a lot of good young talent and should be looking to acquire it fast before siakam gets old. Why waste time with a team that’s old and not a contender. Have them their championship tour get they rings and get assets at the trade deadline. Simple


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This is what people said about bailing on DD / Lowry after they got humiliated by the Wizards. Or the first time they got swept by the Cavs. Masai won't tank unless the team spirals first.