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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#121 » by bon » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:22 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
RoyceDa59 wrote:
Stillwater wrote:1. Bucks
2. Celtics
3. 76'ers
4. Raptors
5. Pacers
6. Heat
7. Nets
8. Magic


This actually looks the most realistic.


Yeah if you're smoking crack. the Nets' roster going into 19-20 is improved.

lets see how this plays out. one team added talent while yours lost one of the top 3 basketball players in the world. i have a feeling these predictions about the Raptors still being a top team w/o Leonard will look hilarious by January.

That one team was vastly superior to the other one that snuck into the playoffs.

Just sit tight until KD heals up, because Kyrie isn't the upgrade you're looking for to be relevant again
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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#122 » by Bad-Thoma » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:04 pm

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dorkestra wrote:1. Philadelphia 76ers
2. Milwaukee Bucks
3. Indiana Pacers
4. Toronto Raptors
5. Orlando Magic
6. Miami Heat
7. Brooklyn Nets
8. Detroit Pistons

Honorable Mention: Hawks (who may edge up the Pistons here) Wizards, Bulls


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Haha honestly though, I don't have any hard feelings against Butler - will always root for him - and wouldn't be surprised if the Heat were a little better than 6th seed next year.


Actually I was referring to not having the Celtics in your top 11 teams in the east
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Post#123 » by CalOrl11 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:10 pm

1. Philly
2. Bucks
3. Pacers
4. Celtics
5. Magic
6. Raptors
7. Nets
8. Heat
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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#124 » by Canadafan » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:28 pm

RoyceDa59 wrote:Regular season Raptors could take the top seed. Without Kawhi last season they were on pace for 64 wins, and they've added Gasol and OG plus good draft picks and FA signings, not to mention improvements in skill and confidence from Siakam, FVV and Powell.

Before Kawhi came to town, they were a 60 win team and the #1 seed. This team is built perfectly for the regular season and they have great chemistry and depth. Same core has been playing together for years.

There's literally no reason why they shouldn't win 55+ games. Anyone sleeping on them is just glancing past them with a (they lost Kawhi, easy 15-20 loss in the wins column). Kawhi only played 60 games last season. Anyone who does even a little bit of research will realize there's no legitimate reason why they shouldn't still be a 55-60 win regular season team. Playoffs of course, is another story.


DeRozan and Poetl played a bigggg part in their regular season success.
With their championship hangover they could slip up and miss the playoffs.
More likely to just get the 5th or 6th seed if I had to bet
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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#125 » by Asif16 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:18 pm

1. Bucks
2. Philly
3. Raptors
4. Pacers
5. Celtics /Nets
6. Nets / Celtics
7. Magic
8. Heat
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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#126 » by Asif16 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:20 pm

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RoyceDa59 wrote:
Stillwater wrote:1. Bucks
2. Celtics
3. 76'ers
4. Raptors
5. Pacers
6. Heat
7. Nets
8. Magic


This actually looks the most realistic.


2nd this


Celtics are way too mediocre to be the 2nd seed.
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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#127 » by Canadafan » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:38 pm

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melo4three wrote:
Asif16 wrote:
Chances of Raptors imploding this coming season is minimal at best. We have too much talent for that to happen. Honestly sounds like more of something you WANT to happen than something you believe will actually happen.

I dont expect us to dominating either but we're definitely not imploding.


Except imploding is what yall should be doing. You don’t have a lot of good young talent and should be looking to acquire it fast before siakam gets old. Why waste time with a team that’s old and not a contender. Have them their championship tour get they rings and get assets at the trade deadline. Simple


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Maybe from a pure basketball standpoint, maybe.

But as management, maybe whatever you're getting back for your veterans isn't equal to another 2nd round or conference finals and the legitimacy and revenue that brings?

You go deep in the playoffs, maybe hope on an injury to a rival or late season acquisition and have an outside shot of making the finals again. That isn't the worst idea.


And there it is :noway:
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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#128 » by Duffman100 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:42 pm

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Duffman100 wrote:
melo4three wrote:
Except imploding is what yall should be doing. You don’t have a lot of good young talent and should be looking to acquire it fast before siakam gets old. Why waste time with a team that’s old and not a contender. Have them their championship tour get they rings and get assets at the trade deadline. Simple


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Maybe from a pure basketball standpoint, maybe.

But as management, maybe whatever you're getting back for your veterans isn't equal to another 2nd round or conference finals and the legitimacy and revenue that brings?

You go deep in the playoffs, maybe hope on an injury to a rival or late season acquisition and have an outside shot of making the finals again. That isn't the worst idea.


And there it is :noway:


What? It's the only real way the Raps make the finals this year. And if there is an injury, we're in a prime position to take advantage.

Nobody WANTS an injury to happen, but if you're in the position to take advantage you hold position.
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Post#129 » by ProspectPark » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:43 pm

Canadafan wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
melo4three wrote:
Except imploding is what yall should be doing. You don’t have a lot of good young talent and should be looking to acquire it fast before siakam gets old. Why waste time with a team that’s old and not a contender. Have them their championship tour get they rings and get assets at the trade deadline. Simple


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Maybe from a pure basketball standpoint, maybe.

But as management, maybe whatever you're getting back for your veterans isn't equal to another 2nd round or conference finals and the legitimacy and revenue that brings?

You go deep in the playoffs, maybe hope on an injury to a rival or late season acquisition and have an outside shot of making the finals again. That isn't the worst idea.


And there it is :noway:


:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#130 » by Duffman100 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:49 pm

Canadafan wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
melo4three wrote:
Except imploding is what yall should be doing. You don’t have a lot of good young talent and should be looking to acquire it fast before siakam gets old. Why waste time with a team that’s old and not a contender. Have them their championship tour get they rings and get assets at the trade deadline. Simple


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Maybe from a pure basketball standpoint, maybe.

But as management, maybe whatever you're getting back for your veterans isn't equal to another 2nd round or conference finals and the legitimacy and revenue that brings?

You go deep in the playoffs, maybe hope on an injury to a rival or late season acquisition and have an outside shot of making the finals again. That isn't the worst idea.


And there it is :noway:


Oh right, you're a well known Raptors troll. Well, enjoy your season of irrelevance again.
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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#131 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:50 pm

melo4three wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
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Let me guess 538 is also wrong about the Nets depth?

Headline
“KD And Kyrie Were The Final Pieces Of Brooklyn’s Brilliant Rebuild”

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/fivethirtyeight.com/features/kevin-durant-kyrie-irving-brooklyn-nets/amp/

Quote from article:

“But the Nets have added the finishing touches on what, until now, was simply a strong base.”


The Nets swapped out D'Angelo Russell and Rondae Hollis-Jefferson for Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant. Yet somehow these geniuses on RealGm look at that as a step backwards.



The nets lost a lot of their culture and gained cancerous divas, yeah they slightly upgraded in talent but I also think they overachieved last year because of strong bonds. The upgrade in talent will get them back to about where they were last year.


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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#132 » by Canadafan » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:52 pm

1. Philadelphia 76ers
2. Milwaukee Bucks
3. Indiana Pacers
4. Boston Celtics
5. Brooklyn Nets
6. Detroit Pistons
7. Toronto Raptors
8. Orlando Magic

1st round playoffs Giannis is sidelined with an injury to start the playoffs and doesnt try playing until game 5. Then after playing most of the first quarter his Achilles explodes and never comes back. In game 6, Middleton goes down with an injury and never comes back. Raps in 6 :lol:
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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#133 » by L3GEND4RY » Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:08 pm

Asif16 wrote:
L3GEND4RY wrote:
RoyceDa59 wrote:
This actually looks the most realistic.


2nd this


Celtics are way too mediocre to be the 2nd seed.


Right. Because outside of the Bucks and possibly the Sixers, the rest of the East is stacked.
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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#134 » by Duffman100 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:10 pm

Canadafan wrote:1. Philadelphia 76ers
2. Milwaukee Bucks
3. Indiana Pacers
4. Boston Celtics
5. Brooklyn Nets
6. Detroit Pistons
7. Toronto Raptors
8. Orlando Magic

1st round playoffs Giannis is sidelined with an injury to start the playoffs and doesnt try playing until game 5. Then after playing most of the first quarter his Achilles explodes and never comes back. In game 6, Middleton goes down with an injury and never comes back. Raps in 6 :lol:
Hehehe jk jk


:lol: pistons above the Raps. Good luck with that.
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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#135 » by Asif16 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:28 pm

Canadafan wrote:1. Philadelphia 76ers
2. Milwaukee Bucks
3. Indiana Pacers
4. Boston Celtics
5. Brooklyn Nets
6. Detroit Pistons
7. Toronto Raptors
8. Orlando Magic

1st round playoffs Giannis is sidelined with an injury to start the playoffs and doesnt try playing until game 5. Then after playing most of the first quarter his Achilles explodes and never comes back. In game 6, Middleton goes down with an injury and never comes back. Raps in 6 :lol:
Hehehe jk jk


Detroit is straight booty hole. Probably more like 12/13th seed. And thats only because Hornets and Knicks are so bad
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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#136 » by FlatearthZorro » Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:30 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
RoyceDa59 wrote:
Stillwater wrote:1. Bucks
2. Celtics
3. 76'ers
4. Raptors
5. Pacers
6. Heat
7. Nets
8. Magic


This actually looks the most realistic.


Yeah if you're smoking crack. the Nets' roster going into 19-20 is improved.

lets see how this plays out. one team added talent while yours lost one of the top 3 basketball players in the world. i have a feeling these predictions about the Raptors still being a top team w/o Leonard will look hilarious by January.


What did you improve, exactly? Okay let's say Kyrie is slightly better than Russell, IF Kyrie fits the team. Both are scoring PGs who don't play much defense. Which players on your team will play defense? I'm just wondering, cause most of the current players on your roster are negatives on defense.
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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#137 » by FlatearthZorro » Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:33 pm

Johnny Bball wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
LloydFree wrote:It's shocking to me, that multiple people actually believe the Nets will be better than the Raptors.


Or having the Raptors as the 7th or 8th seed with Miami and Detroit above them.

It's almost as if people don't give any credence to the previous years performance at all. Raps roster is still near the top of the east quality.


Same thing every year in this place.

Raps will finish top 4 again and everyone can keep hoping with their bias that they will suck.

Sixers
Bucks

Raptors

Magic
Celtics
Pacers
Nets (in no real order here with all 4 close)

Heat
Pistons

And just for kicks, Hakws will be knocking on the last spot.


Last season you defense was awesome and all, I think Raptors will be a good playoff team, but I kinda hope we meet in the playoffs. Watching you struggle so HARD on offense and at time not being able to score for extended periods of time even with Kawhi, I don't see how you get out of the 2nd round unless your #1 guy scores 30, 30+ a game like Kawhi did.
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PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#138 » by FlatearthZorro » Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:35 pm

Bologna Smasher wrote:Raptors are going to be a lot better than most think. Siakam is about to be a superstar.


We will know very soon, I can tell you that it's a lot easier to play behind the best player in the ENTIRE playoffs than to be that player.
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PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#139 » by Duffman100 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:36 pm

FlatearthZorro wrote:
Johnny Bball wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
Or having the Raptors as the 7th or 8th seed with Miami and Detroit above them.

It's almost as if people don't give any credence to the previous years performance at all. Raps roster is still near the top of the east quality.


Same thing every year in this place.

Raps will finish top 4 again and everyone can keep hoping with their bias that they will suck.

Sixers
Bucks

Raptors

Magic
Celtics
Pacers
Nets (in no real order here with all 4 close)

Heat
Pistons

And just for kicks, Hakws will be knocking on the last spot.


Last season you defense was awesome and all, I think Raptors will be a good playoff team, but I kinda hope we meet in the playoffs. Watching you struggle so HARD on offense and at time not being able to score for extended periods of time even with Kawhi, I don't see how you get out of the 2nd round unless your #1 guy scores 30, 30+ a game like Kawhi did.


100%. And it's the biggest worry. Especially scoring from the wings.

What is intriguing is this is the first season in 8 years? that we don't have a ball stopper on offensive. It was Demar and then it was Kawhi. Granted, Kawhi was a ball stopper who could score the **** out of the ball, so it wasn't an issue.

But we had our bench mob from 2 years ago score and play effectively with Nurse's offense and they didn't have anyone special (other than Siakam and FVV).

I'm wondering what that offense is gonna look like with Gasol and Lowry leading the charge, two of the smartest, best passers at their position.
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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#140 » by FlatearthZorro » Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:38 pm

RoyceDa59 wrote:
Stillwater wrote:1. Bucks
2. Celtics
3. 76'ers
4. Raptors
5. Pacers
6. Heat
7. Nets
8. Magic


This actually looks the most realistic.


I could see us anywhere from 2 to 4. #1 would be a huge surprise. I think the Raptors will finish top 4, too, same for the Bucks and 6ers, no idea in what order, tbh. So I agree, too.
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PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.

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