BloodNinja wrote:Pennebaker wrote:The problem is that Paul George is not actually that good. He's kind of a mirage, as he has been his entire career. A tier below the elite.
In the playoffs the Clippers will discover that Paul George is not enough as a #2 and they will look to add another big name in the offseason. We can start talking about Clipper dominance when they have a Big 3.
As it stands right now I dont think the Clippers can beat the Lakers in a series. LeBron and AD are both so much better than Paul George that the gap in talent (especially in terms of efficiency) will become painfully obvious.
Another reason to check the unbridled optimism...
Kawhi Leonard career averages:
17.7 pts, 6.3 reb, 2.4 ast
Paul George career averages:
19.8 pts, 6.3 reb, 3.3 ast
You've completely forgotten about the other side of these two players.
George is most definitely a good enough second option. He averaged 28ppg last season and should be good for 22+ppg with a reduced scoring load this season. And his defending was amazing. In any case the Clippers have a 3rd 20ppg scorer on the team in Lou Williams who is also a closer in crunch time.
I'm not worried about the Clippers duo talent wise. George and Leonard were 1st & 2nd All-NBA last season - they proved their worth. LeBron only managed 3rd team and AD was nowhere to be found.
George has never been an adequate first option so therefore he isnt an adequate second option - great second options should be able to be franchise players on their own and George has never been a franchise player.
Yes, we know George averaged 28 last season, but his efficiency was meh and his career average is 19, which means you're probably not going to see 28 from him again - he is not a guy that averages 26, 27, 28 points as a matter of course. In fact, last season was likely the pinnacle of George's career, and it's not great when the best you've ever done is a 23.3 PER.
So, yes you're right, you'll probably get something like 22 points on 43% shooting from PG, which is exactly my point because that is not good enough.
And Kawhi has a similar issue in that he also is not known for stringing together dominant seasons. In fact, Kawhi hasn't even had one single dominant season, let alone two in a row, or three, or five, etc.
And what the Clippers want from Kawhi he already gave to Toronto last year. So that's done. But Clippers fans are like, "Yeah just do that again, but here. Easy money." That's delusional. LAC will have to wait for his next run, whenever that may be, but it's unlikely that it will happen again this season (he is a Spur after all and they don't repeat).
So my point is that the Clippers are not getting prime MJ and prime Pippen and the 1996 Chicago Bulls like some of their fans think they are. They're getting worse players - and players who are not known for consistent or extended domination. So the Clippers are more likely to be a mid tier seed than a 69 win powerhouse/overwhelming favorites.
As far as LeBron and AD goes, everyone knows they're 1st team All-NBA guys and that last year they were limited on votes due to injury. No one doubts their greatness or ability.
For LeBron, he had a historic statistical season (27/8/8 on 51%) and had the Lakers as the 4th seed (!!!!) before his injury on Christmas, and that squad was putrid outside of him. Replace LeBron with Paul George and those Lakers don't even touch the 8th seed, let alone 4th. So it doesnt really matter what All-NBA team George was on, some things about him will always be true.
As for AD, every GM in the league would take Davis over George without a moment's hesitation. You would too if you were in that situation and had to answer to ownership and fans.
The Clippers would trade George+picks and players for Anthony Davis right now.