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Raptors hire Jon Goodwillie as assistant coach 

Post#1 » by Hero_Panda » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:07 pm

Haven't seen a thread yet on the other new hire, Jon Goodwillie

https://www.raptorshq.com/2019/7/16/20695468/nba-summer-league-2019-toronto-raptors-coach-jon-goodwillie-interview-q-and-a

If you’re unfamiliar with the name, Jon is the Video Coordinator for the Toronto Raptors. This summer, however, he was the team’s Summer League head coach, a role held previously by esteemed current and former Raptors’ staffers like Jama Mahlalela and Jesse Murmuys. I was grateful to get the opportunity to chat with him about his time with the Raptors, Summer League, and Toronto’s glorious championship run.


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Post#2 » by And1Skip » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:22 pm

Not really a hire but more like a promotion that was waiting to happen since summer league. I posted this in the Brittini Donaldson thread and this is the coaching staff now:

Read on Twitter
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Will still be part of the back row like last year as the front row remains the same with Bjorkgren, Griffin and Scariolo
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Post#3 » by siakamthemvp » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:59 pm

And1Skip wrote:Not really a hire but more like a promotion that was waiting to happen since summer league. I posted this in the Brittini Donaldson thread and this is the coaching staff now:

Read on Twitter
?s=21

Will still be part of the back row like last year as the front row remains the same with Bjorkgren, Griffin and Scariolo


Basically we almost have one coach per player lol. They have one-to-one. Meanwhile Doug Ford is making high schools have ridiculously large classes per one teacher
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Post#4 » by rarefind » Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:28 pm

Fab and Goodwillie, nice.
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Post#5 » by no dice » Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:36 pm

Butthead: ehehehehehehe good Willie....ehehehehehehehehe
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Post#6 » by Sherlock » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:10 pm

siakamthemvp wrote:
And1Skip wrote:Not really a hire but more like a promotion that was waiting to happen since summer league. I posted this in the Brittini Donaldson thread and this is the coaching staff now:

Read on Twitter
?s=21

Will still be part of the back row like last year as the front row remains the same with Bjorkgren, Griffin and Scariolo


Basically we almost have one coach per player lol. They have one-to-one. Meanwhile Doug Ford is making high schools have ridiculously large classes per one teacher


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Post#7 » by PD28 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:56 pm

siakamthemvp wrote:
And1Skip wrote:Not really a hire but more like a promotion that was waiting to happen since summer league. I posted this in the Brittini Donaldson thread and this is the coaching staff now:

Read on Twitter
?s=21

Will still be part of the back row like last year as the front row remains the same with Bjorkgren, Griffin and Scariolo


Basically we almost have one coach per player lol. They have one-to-one. Meanwhile Doug Ford is making high schools have ridiculously large classes per one teacher


How much larger are we talking?
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Re: Raptors hire Jon Goodwillie as assistant coach 

Post#8 » by dontsettle4less » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:07 pm

I think of Friday after the next, where she calls him sweet, d, willie hahaha
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Post#9 » by mieshpal » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:57 pm

I met Jon many years ago for an informational interview. Very nice guy. Loved basketball and appreciated that he gave me some of his time.
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Post#10 » by LLJ » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:16 pm

Fabulous Goodwillie Donaldson.
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Post#11 » by kwajo » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:45 am

no dice wrote:Butthead: ehehehehehehe good Willie....ehehehehehehehehe


I read this and just had the terrible realization that there is probably a majority of the board that is too young to remember what it is referencing :cry:
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Post#12 » by mrsocko » Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:19 am

Is he our Goodwillie ambassador.
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Post#13 » by ontnut » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:17 am

Nurse loves a Fab Goodwillie
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Post#14 » by navyblue » Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:38 pm

i love how the raptors/masai promote from within.
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Post#15 » by Useyourhead » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:00 pm

siakamthemvp wrote:
And1Skip wrote:Not really a hire but more like a promotion that was waiting to happen since summer league. I posted this in the Brittini Donaldson thread and this is the coaching staff now:

Read on Twitter
?s=21

Will still be part of the back row like last year as the front row remains the same with Bjorkgren, Griffin and Scariolo


Basically we almost have one coach per player lol. They have one-to-one. Meanwhile Doug Ford is making high schools have ridiculously large classes per one teacher


Here's a secret you should know, that's because Ford has no choice, the alternative is not having teachers at all, that's what happens when our province has more debt than any sub-national government in the entire world per person, even more than California which is insane. If people knew the real financial issues that this province will have in the coming years it would actually cause panic and make people consider moving out of Ontario because tax increases are definitely coming. At the current rate the deficit is going to continue to grow where the interest alone on the debt will become more than 50% of the budget and they will have to cut back on everything, teachers, police, firefighters, nurses doctors and the list goes on.

If you want to blame anyone for the ridiculous class sizes, you can blame the liberals for their complete incompetence in running their budgets which led us to the **** hole of a financial scenario for this province. FYI i'm not pro conservative or liberal just not a fan of complete morons that have literally screwed this province royally.
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Post#16 » by SHFT » Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:51 pm

Useyourhead wrote:
siakamthemvp wrote:
And1Skip wrote:Not really a hire but more like a promotion that was waiting to happen since summer league. I posted this in the Brittini Donaldson thread and this is the coaching staff now:

Read on Twitter
?s=21

Will still be part of the back row like last year as the front row remains the same with Bjorkgren, Griffin and Scariolo


Basically we almost have one coach per player lol. They have one-to-one. Meanwhile Doug Ford is making high schools have ridiculously large classes per one teacher


Here's a secret you should know, that's because Ford has no choice, the alternative is not having teachers at all, that's what happens when our province has more debt than any sub-national government in the entire world per person, even more than California which is insane. If people knew the real financial issues that this province will have in the coming years it would actually cause panic and make people consider moving out of Ontario because tax increases are definitely coming. At the current rate the deficit is going to continue to grow where the interest alone on the debt will become more than 50% of the budget and they will have to cut back on everything, teachers, police, firefighters, nurses doctors and the list goes on.

If you want to blame anyone for the ridiculous class sizes, you can blame the liberals for their complete incompetence in running their budgets which led us to the **** hole of a financial scenario for this province. FYI i'm not pro conservative or liberal just not a fan of complete morons that have literally screwed this province royally.
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Post#17 » by siakamthemvp » Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:35 pm

Useyourhead wrote:
siakamthemvp wrote:
And1Skip wrote:Not really a hire but more like a promotion that was waiting to happen since summer league. I posted this in the Brittini Donaldson thread and this is the coaching staff now:

Read on Twitter
?s=21

Will still be part of the back row like last year as the front row remains the same with Bjorkgren, Griffin and Scariolo


Basically we almost have one coach per player lol. They have one-to-one. Meanwhile Doug Ford is making high schools have ridiculously large classes per one teacher


Here's a secret you should know, that's because Ford has no choice, the alternative is not having teachers at all, that's what happens when our province has more debt than any sub-national government in the entire world per person, even more than California which is insane. If people knew the real financial issues that this province will have in the coming years it would actually cause panic and make people consider moving out of Ontario because tax increases are definitely coming. At the current rate the deficit is going to continue to grow where the interest alone on the debt will become more than 50% of the budget and they will have to cut back on everything, teachers, police, firefighters, nurses doctors and the list goes on.

If you want to blame anyone for the ridiculous class sizes, you can blame the liberals for their complete incompetence in running their budgets which led us to the **** hole of a financial scenario for this province. FYI i'm not pro conservative or liberal just not a fan of complete morons that have literally screwed this province royally.


If he really had 'no choice', then he wouldn't be intentionally using misinformation to sell his argument. Be completely honest and say we need to raise sizes to save money. Instead, he uses arguments like:

Ex. "Ontario has an average class size of 22, while BC has 32"
False. BC's MAX class size is 32, it's AVERAGE is below that. Ontario's max is also 32. BC used to have huge class sizes and they won a court case to get them lower.

'Ontario classes average is 22.'
Again AVERAGE is the key word. Most classes are in the 26-32 range. What keeps it down is specialty classes like the special education classes with 6-10, specialty classes like woodshop which have max of 15-20, and other teachers like guidance counsellors, special education teachers, who don't have classes, but are counted in that ratio, lowering it to 22.

'In university they will have giant classes - this prepares them'
Most students do not go to university. Maybe 35% max do. So these huge class sizes are not 'preparing' the majority. What about the students who don't go to university. Well let's cut the classes that help them. We love to complain that students don't learn stuff to help them in real-life, well the classes that do prepare them for actual work - those are the ones going to be cut, because their sizes are lower.


Could classes be bigger. Sure, maybe a little bit. But to get to '28'; it means some classes will need to get to the high 30s and/or cut all the specialty classes. But when you intentionally distort the figures, it shows that he is aware and just doesn't care.
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Post#18 » by Hero Ball » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:08 pm

Useyourhead wrote:FYI i'm not pro conservative or liberal just not a fan of complete morons that have literally screwed this province royally.


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Post#19 » by dTox » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:42 pm

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Post#20 » by Useyourhead » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:23 pm

siakamthemvp wrote:
Useyourhead wrote:
siakamthemvp wrote:
Basically we almost have one coach per player lol. They have one-to-one. Meanwhile Doug Ford is making high schools have ridiculously large classes per one teacher


Here's a secret you should know, that's because Ford has no choice, the alternative is not having teachers at all, that's what happens when our province has more debt than any sub-national government in the entire world per person, even more than California which is insane. If people knew the real financial issues that this province will have in the coming years it would actually cause panic and make people consider moving out of Ontario because tax increases are definitely coming. At the current rate the deficit is going to continue to grow where the interest alone on the debt will become more than 50% of the budget and they will have to cut back on everything, teachers, police, firefighters, nurses doctors and the list goes on.

If you want to blame anyone for the ridiculous class sizes, you can blame the liberals for their complete incompetence in running their budgets which led us to the **** hole of a financial scenario for this province. FYI i'm not pro conservative or liberal just not a fan of complete morons that have literally screwed this province royally.


If he really had 'no choice', then he wouldn't be intentionally using misinformation to sell his argument. Be completely honest and say we need to raise sizes to save money. Instead, he uses arguments like:

Ex. "Ontario has an average class size of 22, while BC has 32"
False. BC's MAX class size is 32, it's AVERAGE is below that. Ontario's max is also 32. BC used to have huge class sizes and they won a court case to get them lower.

'Ontario classes average is 22.'
Again AVERAGE is the key word. Most classes are in the 26-32 range. What keeps it down is specialty classes like the special education classes with 6-10, specialty classes like woodshop which have max of 15-20, and other teachers like guidance counsellors, special education teachers, who don't have classes, but are counted in that ratio, lowering it to 22.

'In university they will have giant classes - this prepares them'
Most students do not go to university. Maybe 35% max do. So these huge class sizes are not 'preparing' the majority. What about the students who don't go to university. Well let's cut the classes that help them. We love to complain that students don't learn stuff to help them in real-life, well the classes that do prepare them for actual work - those are the ones going to be cut, because their sizes are lower.


Could classes be bigger. Sure, maybe a little bit. But to get to '28'; it means some classes will need to get to the high 30s and/or cut all the specialty classes. But when you intentionally distort the figures, it shows that he is aware and just doesn't care.



I agree they should be more honest about the situation, neither political party gives the public enough credit for their intelligence but I can see them not wanting to come out with the truth too because it could impact the real estate market if people knew further tax increases were coming in the next 10 years no matter what which would impact disposable incomes and quality of life.

Remember interest rates are at a historical low, imagine if they even go up by half a percent and Alberta no longer has money to give the rest of Canada equalization payments. That is money that Ontario has relied heavily on the past. Once that dries up, the need for cuts and further tax increases will increase. This is just the beginning folks. FYI i work in finance downtown and have seen large companies make the same mistakes that the government made which is why i can foresee what's coming and also the posturing made by the parties (albeit not always forthcoming with their intentions)

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