SI's Top 100 NBA Rankings 2020

KqWIN · Post #61 » by **KqWIN** » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:31 am

Everyone thinks it's terrible, but for different reasons. It's impossible to put together a list that puts every player where their biggest fans think they should be. Put together a list of 25 without scrutiny if you think the list is so bad.

The Real Dalic · Post #62 » by **The Real Dalic** » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:00 am

KqWIN wrote:Everyone thinks it's terrible, but for different reasons. It's impossible to put together a list that puts every player where their biggest fans think they should be. Put together a list of 25 without scrutiny if you think the list is so bad.

I would just like a list where Orlando's players get some respect for once. Vuc was somewhere in the 90's last year. Then he proves a point and only goes to 45? As the best player on a playoff team? It always feel like the Magic have to earn their respect, meanwhile, certain players are just gifted it. Like Wiggins for example, that man should not be on anyone's top 100.

TheNG · Post #63 » by **TheNG** » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:09 am

Looking at the players we ranked here at the top 29, here are the most noticeable differences :
[Player: our ranking --> SI ranking]
Doncic: 20 --> 30
Oladipo: 29 --> 39
Horford: (probably 30) --> 18
Aldridge: (not top 30) --> 16
Middleton: (probably not top 35) --> 27

TheNG · Post #64 » by **TheNG** » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:09 am

The fact they put Doncic below Simmons and Siakam is hilarious.

HiRez · Post #65 » by **HiRez** » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:10 am

jinxed wrote:Neither Klay nor Durant should be on the list.

Durant isn't expected to play next season, Klay is. Tough to give an accurate ranking for him based on probably only 2-3 months of play though. I kind of see where they came up with the #58 ranking. Healthy, he's easily better than that. Coming off major injury, he could be a lot worse. But, if he does come back and play, and especially if the Warriors make the playoffs, he could have a major effect on GS's fate in 2020. Ranking him either significantly higher or lower seems wrong, so #58 seems about right.

Post #66 » by **GeorgeMarcus** » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:06 am

My guess for SI's list:
10. Damian Lillard
9. Nikola Jokic
8. Joel Embiid
7. Paul George
6. Anthony Davis
5. James Harden
4. Steph Curry
3. LeBron James
2. Giannis Antetokounmpo
1. Kawhi Leonard

My list:
10. Damian Lillard
9. Paul George
8. Nikola Jokic
7. Anthony Davis
6. Joel Embiid
5. James Harden
4. LeBron James
3. Kawhi Leonard
2. Giannis Antetokounmpo
1. Steph Curry

Catchall · Post #67 » by **Catchall** » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:24 pm

SI's top 10 list is added. They have:

10 Lillard
9 George
8 Jokic
7 Embiid
6 AD
5 Harden
4 Steph
3 Lebron
2 Kawhi
1 Giannis

That's 8 of the top 10 players in the western conference.

WarriorGM · Post #68 » by **WarriorGM** » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:45 pm

Catchall wrote:SI's top 10 list is added. They have:

10 Lillard
9 George
8 Jokic
7 Embiid
6 AD
5 Harden
4 Steph
3 Lebron
2 Kawhi
1 Giannis

That's 8 of the top 10 players in the western conference.

But they reserve the top 2 slots for 2 players who played in the Eastern Conference last year. Illogical.

AbeVigodaLive · Post #69 » by **AbeVigodaLive** » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:01 pm

WarriorGM wrote:
Catchall wrote:SI's top 10 list is added. They have:

10 Lillard
9 George
8 Jokic
7 Embiid
6 AD
5 Harden
4 Steph
3 Lebron
2 Kawhi
1 Giannis

That's 8 of the top 10 players in the western conference.

But they reserve the top 2 slots for 2 players who played in the Eastern Conference last year. Illogical.

Why is that illogical?

And1+2 · Post #70 » by **And1+2** » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:10 pm

Siakam should be 25-30, so I don't mind that. Lowry should be 15-20, unless he regresses drastically this year. Not a fan of his rating.

Kawhi should be number #1.

I'd still take LeBron over Giannis, but this is probably the last year I would do so, and I could even end up regretting it this year.

Can't wait for the season to start either way!

JN61 · Post #71 » by **JN61** » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:17 pm

Giannis 1, Butler 11, Markkanen 76 (if I read right), ... Shameful

Post #72 » by **THE J0KER** » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:22 pm

50CalClips · Post #73 » by **50CalClips** » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:48 pm

Milwaukee Bucks
66 - Brook Lopez
46 - Eric Bledsoe
27 - Khris Middleton
1 - Giannis Antetokounmpo

L.A. Clippers
snub - JaMychal Green
snub - Landry Shamet
81 - Pat Beverley
77 - Montrezl Harrell
53 - Lou Williams
9 - Paul George
2 - Kawhi Leonard

L.B. LeLakers
snub - Dwight Howard
96 - Kyle Kuzma
89 - Danny Green
6 - Anthony Davis
3 - LeBron James

Golden State Warriors
58 - Klay Thompson
44 - D'Angelo Russell
17 - Draymond Green
4 - Stephen Curry

Houston Rockets
74 - P.J. Tucker
63 - Eric Gordon
56 - Clint Capela
12 - Russell Westbrook
5 - James Harden

Philadelphia 76ers
71 - Josh Richardson
49 - Tobias Harris
23 - Ben Simmons
18 - Al Horford
7 - Joel Embiid

Denver Nuggets
snub - Will Barton
snub - Malik Beasley
snub - Jerami Grant
48 - Gary Harris
43 - Paul Millsap
38 - Jamal Murray
8 - Nikola Jokic

Portland Trail Blazers
snub - Rodney Hood
snub - Hassan Whiteside
78 - Jusuf Nurkic
32 - CJ McCullum
10 - Damian Lillard

Minnesota Timberwolves
100 - Andrew Wiggins
87 - Jeff Teague
65 - Robert Covington
13 - Karl-Anthony Towns

Utah Jazz
65 - Joe Ingles
52 - Bojan Bogdanovic
29 - Donovan Mitchell
26 - Mike Conely
14 - Rudy Gobert

Brooklyn Nets
98 - DeAndre Jordan
97 - Jarret Allen
95 - Joe Harris
92 - Spencer Dinwiddie
69 - Caris LeVert
15 - Kyrie Irving

San Antonio Spurs
94 - Dejounte Murray
91 - Derrick White
31 - DeMar DeRozan
16 - LaMarcus Aldridge

Boston Celtics
snub - Enes Kanter
82 - Marcus Smart
68 - Jaylen Brown
59 - Gordon Hayward
35 - Jayson Tatum
20 - Kemba Walker

Toronto Raptors
80 - Serge Ibaka
42 - Marc Gasol
28 - Kyle Lowry
24 - Pascal Siakam

(not all teams included)

SI's own list of "snubs" https://www.si.com/nba/2019/09/09/top-100-nba-players-2020-snubs-dwight-howard-deandre-ayton?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sinow&xid=socialflow_twitter_si&utm_source=twitter.com

Hindenburg · Post #74 » by **Hindenburg** » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:55 pm

Wonder where perfectly healthy KD would end up on this list?

ProspectPark · Post #75 » by **ProspectPark** » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:56 pm

50CalClips wrote:Milwaukee Bucks
66 - Brook Lopez
46 - Eric Bledsoe
27 - Khris Middleton
1 - Giannis Antetokounmpo

L.A. Clippers
snub - JaMychal Green
snub - Landre Shamet
81 - Pat Beverley
77 - Montrezl Harrell
53 - Lou Williams
9 - Paul George
2 - Kawhi Leonard

L.B. LeLakers
snub - Dwight Howard
96 - Kyle Kuzma
89 - Danny Green
6 - Anthony Davis
3 - LeBron James

Golden State Warriors
58 - Klay Thompson
44 - D'Angelo Russell
17 - Draymond Green
4 - Stephen Curry

Houston Rockets
74 - P.J. Tucker
63 - Eric Gordon
56 - Clint Capela
12 - Russell Westbrook
5 - James Harden

Philadelphia 76ers
71 - Josh Richardson
49 - Tobias Harris
23 - Ben Simmons
18 - Al Horford
7 - Joel Embiid

Denver Nuggets
snub - Will Barton
snub - Malik Beasley
snub - Jerami Grant
98 - Jamal Murray
48 - Gary Harris
43 - Paul Millsap
8 - Nikola Jokic

Portland Trail Blazers
snub - Rodney Hood
snub - Hassan Whiteside
78 - Jusuf Nurkic
32 - CJ McCullum
10 - Damian Lillard

Minnesota Timberwolves
100 - Andrew Wiggins
87 - Jeff Teague
65 - Robert Covington
13 - Karl-Anthony Towns

Utah Jazz
65 - Joe Ingles
52 - Bojan Bogdanovic
29 - Donovan Mitchell
26 - Mike Conely
14 - Rudy Gobert

Brooklyn Nets
98 - DeAndre Jordan
97 - Jarret Allen
95 - Joe Harris
92 - Spencer Dinwiddie
69 - Caris LeVert
15 - Kyrie Irving

San Antonio Spurs
94 - Dejounte Murray
91 - Derrick White
31 - DeMar DeRozan
16 - LaMarcus Aldridge

Boston Celtics
snub - Enes Kanter
82 - Marcus Smart
68 - Jaylen Brown
59 - Gordon Hayward
35 - Jayson Tatum
20 - Kemba Walker

Toronto Raptors
80 - Serge Ibaka
42 - Marc Gasol
28 - Kyle Lowry
24 - Pascal Siakam

Thank you for doing this!

TheNG · Post #76 » by **TheNG** » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:00 pm

Somehow I feel I prefer Bogdan Bogdanovic/Fournier/Patty Mills/Satoransky/Baynes over half of these guys in the top 100

Chanel Bomber · Post #77 » by **Chanel Bomber** » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:05 pm

Give me LeBron, Steph, Harden and Kawhi over Giannis any day. Not saying Giannis isn't great, but his game is nowhere near complete enough to have the edge over those guys. Toronto exposed his limitations last spring. It's fine, he's young and can still get better, but giving him the crown is premature.

Post #78 » by **GeorgeMarcus** » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:10 pm

JN61 wrote:Giannis 1, Butler 11, Markkanen 76 (if I read right), ... Shameful

Where would you rank those guys?

Post #79 » by **THE J0KER** » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:11 pm

50CalClips wrote:Denver Nuggets
snub - Will Barton
snub - Malik Beasley
snub - Jerami Grant
98 - Jamal Murray
48 - Gary Harris
43 - Paul Millsap
8 - Nikola Jokic

Murray is actually 38 (and even that is too low)

GusT15 · Post #80 » by **GusT15** » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:13 pm

TheNG wrote:Somehow I feel I prefer Bogdan Bogdanovic/Fournier/Patty Mills/Satoransky/Baynes over half of these guys in the top 100

Let me give you a hint about FIBA ball vs NBA.
I've spent many summers waiting for Patrick "Steph Curry" Mills to make an appearance in the NBA and lead my Spurs to glory.
He never did.Great role player,but in the NBA there was a "ceiling" to what he could do.

If you're waiting for Baynes to go 5/6 from 3 in a longer court and Fournier bring the same shooting and effectiveness he brings in an 8 game tournament to an 82+Playoffs NBA season you're in for a disappointment.

Different rules,different difficulties,some players can adapt,some players cannot.
But you cannot predict/rank what an NBA player can/will do next season based on a FIBA International Tournament.