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Re: FIBA WORLD CUP 2019 | Finals : SPAIN - ARGENTINA 

Post#3541 » by perik777 » Sat Sep 14, 2019 2:14 pm

Young gun 6 wrote:Australia win gold or silver if they don’t have dodgy refs. That foul call in first OT to give Gasol 2 free throws to tie the game with 5 seconds left was the most bull thing you’ll see in a game.

Australian team rightfully calling out FIBA for blatant biased cheating in the game.

Sorry but i disagree with you. There wer lots of bad call favouring Australia, more than spain in fact.

In the third quarter bogut grabbed rubio's throad and waa not called for a foul. A 3 from fernandez counted for 2 points.

In the fourth, delly pushed rubio to the ground in an offensive board which ended in 2 points for kay. You can discuss gasol's play, but that last foul on mills was a phantom foul too.

Then in the overtime it went out of hands.everyoffensive foul for spain was a deffensive one in the other half. A feet violation for delly was not called. Few second after they called

And lets not forget that bogut should have been thrown out of the game for his stupid mimics
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Post#3542 » by Chuck Diesel » Sat Sep 14, 2019 3:00 pm

If FIBA had a spine they’d suspend Bogut for the Bronze medal game at least and possibly beyond.
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Post#3543 » by txusto » Sat Sep 14, 2019 3:10 pm

perik777 wrote:
Young gun 6 wrote:Australia win gold or silver if they don’t have dodgy refs. That foul call in first OT to give Gasol 2 free throws to tie the game with 5 seconds left was the most bull thing you’ll see in a game.

Australian team rightfully calling out FIBA for blatant biased cheating in the game.

Sorry but i disagree with you. There wer lots of bad call favouring Australia, more than spain in fact.

In the third quarter bogut grabbed rubio's throad and waa not called for a foul. A 3 from fernandez counted for 2 points.

In the fourth, delly pushed rubio to the ground in an offensive board which ended in 2 points for kay. You can discuss gasol's play, but that last foul on mills was a phantom foul too.

Then in the overtime it went out of hands.everyoffensive foul for spain was a deffensive one in the other half. A feet violation for delly was not called. Few second after they called

And lets not forget that bogut should have been thrown out of the game for his stupid mimics


Good examples. And after watching the replay of the controversial foul I have to say that it's not totally non-existent as I thought, Bogut had a hand on Marc even before Llull's shot. No one would had complain not calling it, that's true, but stop whining and move on.
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Post#3544 » by Spanish_Laker » Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:53 pm

First time (ever?) we will see a World Cup Finals with no black athletes.
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Post#3545 » by txusto » Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:05 pm

Spanish_Laker wrote:First time (ever?) we will see a World Cup Finals with no black athletes.


Not first, not second, not third, not even fourth. And not relevant at all.
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Post#3546 » by perik777 » Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:50 pm

Spanish_Laker wrote:First time (ever?) we will see a World Cup Finals with no black athletes.

Does it really matter


And no, its not the 1st time there was a yugoslavia vs argentina
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Post#3547 » by fabio » Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:01 pm

Spanish_Laker wrote:First time (ever?) we will see a World Cup Finals with no black athletes.

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and as if it mattered.... :banghead:
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Post#3548 » by Pipp33 » Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:51 pm

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Providing free labor to FIBA in return for a chance to win a shiny medal has nothing to do with patriotism, and cheering for Cedi and Delly because they play for the Cavaliers is not anti-patriotic.

But hey, feel free to check my posting history before Team USA lost ... or maybe you should just be replying to someone your points might actually apply to?


Look Jon, I'm not trawling back through pages and pages of your posting history, I'm not that interested in you. I directly replied to YOUR comment, so it was to you. And yet you keep replying and arguing. Don't like it, stop replying to me.

I love how you have now turned this tournament into countries providing free labour, really clutching at straws. Ask the players who went if they cared, I'm damn sure they did.

Patriotism doesn't mean you can't cheer for other players?? where did I draw that conclusion? Fans cheering on have nothing to do with players representing a country. There are several players on Team USA that I hoped had good tournaments, as well as players on many other countries. I love good basketball and watch to see that, no matter what country is playing. I love watching Spain (maybe not tonight!) and Argentina play.

Keep turning my comments into something they are not to make yourself feel better.


I have a better idea ... if you don't mean to direct your remarks at me personally, then try stop using the word "you".


Can you read?? I specifically said I was replying to your posts, so they were directed at you
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Post#3549 » by Chuck Diesel » Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:06 am

Absolutely no way Djordjevic steps down if Serbia reaches the Final. Props to Serbian PR though, as always.
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Post#3550 » by stoo » Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:22 am

Chuck Diesel wrote:Absolutely no way Djordjevic steps down if Serbia reaches the Final. Props to Serbian PR though, as always.


Kokoskov would be the best fit as Serbian next coach, but i believe it will be Sasha Obradovic
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Post#3551 » by The Rodzilla » Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:02 am

jinxed wrote:It's not every tournament where you can say the two best teams are in the finals, but this is one of them.

Both teams 7-0. The winner will truly have deserved it. No fluke, no benefit of schedule, just the best.



australia is better than argentina and spain
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Post#3552 » by Chuck Diesel » Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:13 am

stoo wrote:
Chuck Diesel wrote:Absolutely no way Djordjevic steps down if Serbia reaches the Final. Props to Serbian PR though, as always.


Kokoskov would be the best fit as Serbian next coach, but i believe it will be Sasha Obradovic



Man, can you educate me on the finality of his time with Slovenian NT? I’m tempted to say Doncic’s existence and a Eurobasket gold already in the bank should keep him north amidst the mountains and dragons. Understand how returning home could be appealing but he speaks his native language either way. (I know Slovenian and Serbian are not identical, but I’ve been told he speaks Serbian in huddles) I agree he’d be a huge upgrade.

Obradovic is obviously a legend and mad genius but I’d also wonder if there’s too much weight there, too much gravity for the type of team/style of play that needs to be implemented. Koskov can also speak the NBA language and establish a NT identity quickly, as with Georgia and Slovenia.
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Post#3553 » by Chuck Diesel » Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:21 am

The Rodzilla wrote:
jinxed wrote:It's not every tournament where you can say the two best teams are in the finals, but this is one of them.

Both teams 7-0. The winner will truly have deserved it. No fluke, no benefit of schedule, just the best.



australia is better than argentina and spain


They could go either way against Argentina. Spain we obviously don’t need to rely on the abstract “better “ as we’ve just seen a thrill ride of a game they just played and know the result.
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Post#3554 » by The Rodzilla » Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:46 am

Chuck Diesel wrote:
The Rodzilla wrote:
jinxed wrote:It's not every tournament where you can say the two best teams are in the finals, but this is one of them.

Both teams 7-0. The winner will truly have deserved it. No fluke, no benefit of schedule, just the best.



australia is better than argentina and spain


They could go either way against Argentina. Spain we obviously don’t need to rely on the abstract “better “ as we’ve just seen a thrill ride of a game they just played and know the result.



fake coach lame ass benched delly with 5 minutes to go when it was looking comfortable and then the lead reduced from 7 to 2 in the next minute of play so delly needed to be put back in

so australia is better than spain except the coach wants to be a hero coach and derailed the team
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Post#3555 » by stoo » Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:56 am

Chuck Diesel wrote:
stoo wrote:
Chuck Diesel wrote:Absolutely no way Djordjevic steps down if Serbia reaches the Final. Props to Serbian PR though, as always.


Kokoskov would be the best fit as Serbian next coach, but i believe it will be Sasha Obradovic



Man, can you educate me on the finality of his time with Slovenian NT? I’m tempted to say Doncic’s existence and a Eurobasket gold already in the bank should keep him north amidst the mountains and dragons. Understand how returning home could be appealing but he speaks his native language either way. (I know Slovenian and Serbian are not identical, but I’ve been told he speaks Serbian in huddles) I agree he’d be a huge upgrade.

Obradovic is obviously a legend and mad genius but I’d also wonder if there’s too much weight there, too much gravity for the type of team/style of play that needs to be implemented. Koskov can also speak the NBA language and establish a NT identity quickly as with Georgia and Slovenia.


Kokoskov is Serbian, he speaks serbian language. Slovenian and serbian language are similar. I imagine him being serbian nt coach and still assistant in the Kings. If he was still HC of the Suns, being serbian coach at the same time would probably be impossible, but now possibility is there. Serbian coaches are really good, but most of them are too strict and authoritarian, besides Kokoskov and probably Milojevic from Mega Bemax. I believe serbian players would flourish under Kokoskov who showed the ability lot of times to utilize all the strengths of his players. Slovenia's success is part of Kokoskov's knowledge and greatness of Luka (and Dragic), and I doubt it will be repeated again without the same mix.
When I mentioned Sasha Obradovic as possible next serbian coach, I want to note that it is not Zeljko Obradovic :) Sasha Obradovic is serbian PG playing at the same time with Djordjevic, and so far he had more success coaching clubs in Germany and Russia than Djordjevic
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Post#3556 » by Chuck Diesel » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:06 am

stoo wrote:
Chuck Diesel wrote:
stoo wrote:
Kokoskov would be the best fit as Serbian next coach, but i believe it will be Sasha Obradovic



Man, can you educate me on the finality of his time with Slovenian NT? I’m tempted to say Doncic’s existence and a Eurobasket gold already in the bank should keep him north amidst the mountains and dragons. Understand how returning home could be appealing but he speaks his native language either way. (I know Slovenian and Serbian are not identical, but I’ve been told he speaks Serbian in huddles) I agree he’d be a huge upgrade.

Obradovic is obviously a legend and mad genius but I’d also wonder if there’s too much weight there, too much gravity for the type of team/style of play that needs to be implemented. Koskov can also speak the NBA language and establish a NT identity quickly as with Georgia and Slovenia.


Kokoskov is Serbian, he speaks serbian language. Slovenian and serbian language are similar. I imagine him being serbian nt coach and still assistant in the Kings. If he was still HC of the Suns, being serbian coach at the same time would probably be impossible, but now possibility is there. Serbian coaches are really good, but most of them are too strict and authoritarian, besides Kokoskov and probably Milojevic from Mega Bemax. I believe serbian players would flourish under Kokoskov who showed the ability lot of times to utilize all the strengths of his players. Slovenia's success is part of Kokoskov's knowledge and greatness of Luka (and Dragic), and I doubt it will be repeated again without the same mix.
When I mentioned Sasha Obradovic as possible next serbian coach, I want to note that it is not Zeljko Obradovic :) Sasha Obradovic is serbian PG playing at the same time with Djordjevic, and so far he had more success coaching clubs in Germany and Russia than Djordjevic


Haha yeah, definitely had the wrong Obradovic in mind. Agree Koskov would be ideal. Maybe even help naturalize D’Aron Fox and give Serbia another wrinkle. He already quit on us, might as well play against us. :wink:
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Post#3557 » by G R E Y » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:12 am

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Post#3558 » by burek3 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:14 am

Yep, this might get out of hand...
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Post#3559 » by stoo » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:19 am

Chuck Diesel wrote:
stoo wrote:
Chuck Diesel wrote:

Man, can you educate me on the finality of his time with Slovenian NT? I’m tempted to say Doncic’s existence and a Eurobasket gold already in the bank should keep him north amidst the mountains and dragons. Understand how returning home could be appealing but he speaks his native language either way. (I know Slovenian and Serbian are not identical, but I’ve been told he speaks Serbian in huddles) I agree he’d be a huge upgrade.

Obradovic is obviously a legend and mad genius but I’d also wonder if there’s too much weight there, too much gravity for the type of team/style of play that needs to be implemented. Koskov can also speak the NBA language and establish a NT identity quickly as with Georgia and Slovenia.


Kokoskov is Serbian, he speaks serbian language. Slovenian and serbian language are similar. I imagine him being serbian nt coach and still assistant in the Kings. If he was still HC of the Suns, being serbian coach at the same time would probably be impossible, but now possibility is there. Serbian coaches are really good, but most of them are too strict and authoritarian, besides Kokoskov and probably Milojevic from Mega Bemax. I believe serbian players would flourish under Kokoskov who showed the ability lot of times to utilize all the strengths of his players. Slovenia's success is part of Kokoskov's knowledge and greatness of Luka (and Dragic), and I doubt it will be repeated again without the same mix.
When I mentioned Sasha Obradovic as possible next serbian coach, I want to note that it is not Zeljko Obradovic :) Sasha Obradovic is serbian PG playing at the same time with Djordjevic, and so far he had more success coaching clubs in Germany and Russia than Djordjevic


Haha yeah, definitely had the wrong Obradovic in mind. Agree Koskov would be ideal. Maybe even help naturalize D’Aron Fox and give Serbia another wrinkle. He already quit on us, might as well play against us. :wink:


Not gonna happen ;)
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Post#3560 » by txusto » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:23 am

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australia is better than argentina and spain


They could go either way against Argentina. Spain we obviously don’t need to rely on the abstract “better “ as we’ve just seen a thrill ride of a game they just played and know the result.



fake coach lame ass benched delly with 5 minutes to go when it was looking comfortable and then the lead reduced from 7 to 2 in the next minute of play so delly needed to be put back in

so australia is better than spain except the coach wants to be a hero coach and derailed the team


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