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Re: could elena delle donne play in the nba? 

Post#121 » by jpengland » Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:56 pm

HeartBreakKid wrote:I understand the logic, there are 3 point shooters in the NBA who cannot play defense - but she really, really, would not be able to play defense in the NBA. She is too weak and slow.

Also, her shot might not translate depending on how fast her release is (I've never seen her play).

Comparing her to a rookie is erogenous because there are players in the NBA who are put in for potential. Elena wouldn't have any potential, thus, her being a bit better than a horrible rookie wouldn't be relevant (and she isn't better than said rookie player).


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Re: could elena delle donne play in the nba? 

Post#122 » by theforumblue » Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:59 pm

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kulaz3000 wrote:I think the better question is, which female sports star is athletic enough, that if they had actual basketball skill, would be athletic and strong enough to be able to compete in the NBA? Serena Williams?

Because that's the crux of the issue here, Elena Delle Donne is a heck of a basketball player, but she would be the least athletic player in the NBA, even compared to 7 plus footers.

Serena got killed in an exhibition by a man.

A woman can out swim a man with distance period. Our biology and greater bone density gives us the edge. Why do you think people in the USA are so upset about the high people who identify as women but were born a male.


i read that in the "ultra marathon" category, where people run ridiculous number of miles, the longer the race the better the women do compare to men, to the point where the in longest of those things the top runners are women. biology's a fascinating thing.
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Re: could elena delle donne play in the nba? 

Post#123 » by clyde21 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:04 pm

Transgender Weightlifter Wins International Women’s Competition, Sets National Record

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/transgender-weightlifer-outsports_n_58d280efe4b02d33b7474cfd


again, because he's actually a DUDE people...like at some point we just can't continue ignoring reality. :lol:

really, threads like this don't do women any favors to be honest, we should appreciate their sports in that context and not compare them to the mens sports...doesn't really do anyone any good here. Delle Donne is a great womens bball player and that's all that matters here tbh.
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Re: could elena delle donne play in the nba? 

Post#124 » by MrBigShot » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:06 pm

Not convinced she could play in D2. Any woman in the WNBA would have a lot of trouble with the difference in strength, speed and just overall physicality.

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Transgender Weightlifter Wins International Women’s Competition, Sets National Record

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/transgender-weightlifer-outsports_n_58d280efe4b02d33b7474cfd


again, because he's actually a DUDE people...like at some point we just can't continue ignoring reality. :lol:

really, threads like this don't do women any favors to be honest, we should appreciate their sports in that context and not compare them to the mens sports...doesn't really do anyone any good here. Delle Donne is a great womens bball player and that's all that matters here tbh.


It's mind-boggling that you even have to explain this to people. There are stark differences between men and women physically that wont just magically disappear entirely with hormone therapy.

People should just appreciate womens sports for what they are and stop trying to make them out to be what they aren't.
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Post#125 » by LKN » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:09 pm

clyde21 wrote:
Transgender Weightlifter Wins International Women’s Competition, Sets National Record

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/transgender-weightlifer-outsports_n_58d280efe4b02d33b7474cfd


again, because he's actually a DUDE people...like at some point we just can't continue ignoring reality. :lol:

really, threads like this don't do women any favors to be honest, we should appreciate their sports in that context and not compare them to the mens sports...doesn't really do anyone any good here. Delle Donne is a great womens bball player and that's all that matters here tbh.


This - exactly.

Look the truth is that a McDonaold's AA team of high school kids would probably wipe the floor with a WNBA all star team. That doesn't mean that people who enjoy women's basketball should think any less of it.
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Post#126 » by Biff » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:11 pm

HeartBreakKid wrote: Comparing her to a rookie is erogenous



:lol:

I think you mean erroneous.
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Re: could elena delle donne play in the nba? 

Post#127 » by Kaykoose » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:23 pm

I generally agree with everyone in this thread, but I'm not convinced she would struggle in D3.
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Post#128 » by 13th Man » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:25 pm

kulaz3000 wrote:I think the better question is, which female sports star is athletic enough, that if they had actual basketball skill, would be athletic and strong enough to be able to compete in the NBA? Serena Williams?

Because that's the crux of the issue here, Elena Delle Donne is a heck of a basketball player, but she would be the least athletic player in the NBA, even compared to 7 plus footers.


Nobody. The Williams sister got destroyed by a no-namer in Tennis:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Sexes_(tennis)#1998:_Karsten_Braasch_vs._the_Williams_sisters

1998: Karsten Braasch vs. the Williams sisters

Another event dubbed a "Battle of the Sexes" took place during the 1998 Australian Open between Karsten Braasch and the Williams sisters. Venus and Serena Williams had claimed that they could beat any male player ranked outside the world's top 200, so Braasch, then ranked 203rd, challenged them both. Braasch was described by one journalist as "a man whose training regime centered around a pack of cigarettes and more than a couple of bottles of ice cold lager".

The matches took place on court number 12 in Melbourne Park, after Braasch had finished a round of golf and two shandies. He first took on Serena and after leading 5–0, beat her 6–1. Venus then walked on court and again Braasch was victorious, this time winning 6–2.

Braasch said afterwards, "500 and above, no chance". He added that he had played like someone ranked 600th in order to keep the game "fun" and that the big difference was that men can chase down shots much easier and put spin on the ball that female players can't handle. The Williams sisters adjusted their claim to beating men outside the top 350.
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Post#129 » by bisme37 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:27 pm

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bisme37 wrote:This is a little off topic but if you guys are missing basketball right now, the WNBA playoffs have been really good so far. The Aces-Sky game last night was absolutely lit. Super crazy ending on a steal and made half-court heave to win the game for Las Vegas.

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when i first saw that i thought "dang what an ending". once in a lifetime stuff with steal and the win. when i watched it more closely and saw that she chucked it with 7 seconds to go when they had the 3 on 1 break with a wide open teammate practically two steps away from the basket ...what an idiot. complete lack of awareness of clock, situation..JR Smith level stuff. she'd be ridiculed and rightfully so.


She's not an idiot. She's the 6th woman of the year and a very good player. But yeah, terrible lack of clock awareness on that play. However, she said the same thing herself after the game, like, "If that hadn't gone in I'd have never forgiven myself, but it went in and I don't know what I did to deserve it but I'm really happy."

So yeah it was bad awareness but a great steal and a great shot, so as a fan watching the game it was plenty entertaining to me. The game as really good up until that point as well.
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Re: could elena delle donne play in the nba? 

Post#130 » by SichtingLives » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:30 pm

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Post#131 » by HoopsterJones » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:32 pm

She would obliterate me on the court. I’ll say that much.
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Post#132 » by LKN » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:36 pm

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kulaz3000 wrote:I think the better question is, which female sports star is athletic enough, that if they had actual basketball skill, would be athletic and strong enough to be able to compete in the NBA? Serena Williams?

Because that's the crux of the issue here, Elena Delle Donne is a heck of a basketball player, but she would be the least athletic player in the NBA, even compared to 7 plus footers.


Nobody. The Williams sister got destroyed by a no-namer in Tennis:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Sexes_(tennis)#1998:_Karsten_Braasch_vs._the_Williams_sisters

1998: Karsten Braasch vs. the Williams sisters

Another event dubbed a "Battle of the Sexes" took place during the 1998 Australian Open between Karsten Braasch and the Williams sisters. Venus and Serena Williams had claimed that they could beat any male player ranked outside the world's top 200, so Braasch, then ranked 203rd, challenged them both. Braasch was described by one journalist as "a man whose training regime centered around a pack of cigarettes and more than a couple of bottles of ice cold lager".

The matches took place on court number 12 in Melbourne Park, after Braasch had finished a round of golf and two shandies. He first took on Serena and after leading 5–0, beat her 6–1. Venus then walked on court and again Braasch was victorious, this time winning 6–2.

Braasch said afterwards, "500 and above, no chance". He added that he had played like someone ranked 600th in order to keep the game "fun" and that the big difference was that men can chase down shots much easier and put spin on the ball that female players can't handle. The Williams sisters adjusted their claim to beating men outside the top 350.


That story is pretty hilarious and epic
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Post#133 » by sikma42 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:44 pm

I played D3 (small forward/power forward). Starter and captain of a pretty good team. Went back to my hometown and played with a future WNBA all star power forward.

She couldn't hold her own on the court and I had to treat her like a kid. Idk, there are just a lot of differences and the physical advantages they have are erased, even at the D3 level.

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Post#134 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:46 pm

bisme37 wrote:This is a little off topic but if you guys are missing basketball right now, the WNBA playoffs have been really good so far. The Aces-Sky game last night was absolutely lit. Super crazy ending on a steal and made half-court heave to win the game for Las Vegas.

Read on Twitter


I saw this, I was wondering WTF was the ball handler on Chicago thinking when she tried to run out the clock. Take the foul and make the FTs.
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Post#135 » by Indomitable » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:50 pm

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kulaz3000 wrote:I think the better question is, which female sports star is athletic enough, that if they had actual basketball skill, would be athletic and strong enough to be able to compete in the NBA? Serena Williams?

Because that's the crux of the issue here, Elena Delle Donne is a heck of a basketball player, but she would be the least athletic player in the NBA, even compared to 7 plus footers.

Serena got killed in an exhibition by a man.

A woman can out swim a man with distance period. Our biology and greater bone density gives us the edge. Why do you think people in the USA are so upset about the high people who identify as women but were born a male.


i read that in the "ultra marathon" category, where people run ridiculous number of miles, the longer the race the better the women do compare to men, to the point where the in longest of those things the top runners are women. biology's a fascinating thing.

Swimming is the biggest one. Running not as much so.
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Post#136 » by bisme37 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:52 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
bisme37 wrote:This is a little off topic but if you guys are missing basketball right now, the WNBA playoffs have been really good so far. The Aces-Sky game last night was absolutely lit. Super crazy ending on a steal and made half-court heave to win the game for Las Vegas.

Read on Twitter


I saw this, I was wondering WTF was the ball handler on Chicago thinking when she tried to run out the clock. Take the foul and make the FTs.


Yeah everyone kind of lost their mind at the end lol.
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Post#137 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:52 pm

bisme37 wrote:
theforumblue wrote:
bisme37 wrote:This is a little off topic but if you guys are missing basketball right now, the WNBA playoffs have been really good so far. The Aces-Sky game last night was absolutely lit. Super crazy ending on a steal and made half-court heave to win the game for Las Vegas.

Read on Twitter


when i first saw that i thought "dang what an ending". once in a lifetime stuff with steal and the win. when i watched it more closely and saw that she chucked it with 7 seconds to go when they had the 3 on 1 break with a wide open teammate practically two steps away from the basket ...what an idiot. complete lack of awareness of clock, situation..JR Smith level stuff. she'd be ridiculed and rightfully so.


She's not an idiot. She's the 6th woman of the year and a very good player. But yeah, terrible lack of clock awareness on that play. However, she said the same thing herself after the game, like, "If that hadn't gone in I'd have never forgiven myself, but it went in and I don't know what I did to deserve it but I'm really happy."

So yeah it was bad awareness but a great steal and a great shot, so as a fan watching the game it was plenty entertaining to me. The game as really good up until that point as well.


Every time I sit down to watch a WNBA (whenever I see them on the guide i'll watch, but they never advertise their games) game I've been pretty entertained. I think people who overvalue the athleticism that the sport lacks on the women's side are missing out on some good basketball tbh, but each to their own. I can appreciate an under the rim basketball game just the same lol
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Post#138 » by bisme37 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:55 pm

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bisme37 wrote:
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when i first saw that i thought "dang what an ending". once in a lifetime stuff with steal and the win. when i watched it more closely and saw that she chucked it with 7 seconds to go when they had the 3 on 1 break with a wide open teammate practically two steps away from the basket ...what an idiot. complete lack of awareness of clock, situation..JR Smith level stuff. she'd be ridiculed and rightfully so.


She's not an idiot. She's the 6th woman of the year and a very good player. But yeah, terrible lack of clock awareness on that play. However, she said the same thing herself after the game, like, "If that hadn't gone in I'd have never forgiven myself, but it went in and I don't know what I did to deserve it but I'm really happy."

So yeah it was bad awareness but a great steal and a great shot, so as a fan watching the game it was plenty entertaining to me. The game as really good up until that point as well.


Every time I sit down to watch a WNBA (whenever I see them on the guide i'll watch, but they never advertise their games) game it's I've been pretty entertained. I think people who overvalue the athleticism that the sport lacks on the women's side are missing out on some good basketball tbh, but each to their own. I can appreciate an under the rim basketball game just the same lol


Yeah to me it's almost just as entertaining as the NBA, caveat being I don't really have a WNBA team so I don't get as personally wrapped up in the outcomes. I guess I'm rooting for Vegas this year because I like several of the players. But the top players and top teams in the league are really freakin good and they put on a good show.
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Post#139 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:59 pm

clyde21 wrote:
Transgender Weightlifter Wins International Women’s Competition, Sets National Record

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/transgender-weightlifer-outsports_n_58d280efe4b02d33b7474cfd


again, because he's actually a DUDE people...like at some point we just can't continue ignoring reality. :lol:

really, threads like this don't do women any favors to be honest, we should appreciate their sports in that context and not compare them to the mens sports...doesn't really do anyone any good here. Delle Donne is a great womens bball player and that's all that matters here tbh.


I respect the right of any human being to identify as what they want to be, I want to make that clear because I despise transphobia or mistreatment of trans folks.

However in sports competition, I do think that an honest conversation needs to be had, because I find that to be problematic and I don't know how it can be addressed w/o discrimination (making rules that you have to stick to sports based on your gender at birth) coming up, lawsuits etc.

and hell yes Delle Donne is nasty.
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Re: could elena delle donne play in the nba? 

Post#140 » by clyde21 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:09 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
Transgender Weightlifter Wins International Women’s Competition, Sets National Record

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/transgender-weightlifer-outsports_n_58d280efe4b02d33b7474cfd


again, because he's actually a DUDE people...like at some point we just can't continue ignoring reality. :lol:

really, threads like this don't do women any favors to be honest, we should appreciate their sports in that context and not compare them to the mens sports...doesn't really do anyone any good here. Delle Donne is a great womens bball player and that's all that matters here tbh.


I respect the right of any human being to identify as what they want to be, I want to make that clear because I despise transphobia or mistreatment of trans folks.

However in sports competition, I do think that an honest conversation needs to be had, because I find that to be problematic and I don't know how it can be addressed w/o discrimination (making rules that you have to stick to sports based on your gender at birth) coming up, lawsuits etc.

and hell yes Delle Donne is nasty.


i have no problem with whoever identifying as whatever they want, but at some point reality needs to kick in, and sports is one of them.

and really stuff like this hurts biological women the most if we're being frank...
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