Official Yankees Thread II (Alex Cora & AJ Hinch fired)

[KnicksGadfly]

So where all the Yankees are too cheap haters at now.

Still here. Are you that confident that the Yankees are going to beat the Astros?

[GEOLINK]

So where all the Yankees are too cheap haters at now.

Still here. Are you that confident that the Yankees are going to beat the Astros?

Probably not but if I was an Astros fan I would hate to be too confident about eliminating the Yankees.

I still remember 06 when we should've beat the Tigers in the ALDS.

[GEOLINK]

The point is, we didn't have to shell out 600-700 million to win the division.

Should we have spent money on pitching? Absolutely, there's no debating that now.

[KnicksGadfly]

The point is, we didn't have to shell out 600-700 million to win the division.

Should we have spent money on pitching? Absolutely, there's no debating that now.

I would have shelled out that money to get us closer to the chip though. If our goal was the division, I agree with you---no need to pay too much. But the Astros are monsters, and we're going to be seeing them for a long time. I also seriously wonder if we'd pay for Gerrit Cole this offseason.

[DowNY]

So where all the Yankees are too cheap haters at now.

Oh Hal is still cheap. I'm willing to bet no one in the front office expected DJ or Urshela's seasons or the production from the guys on the bench. And this team still faces a tough series with the Astros should they meet.

This.

[GEOLINK]

The point is, we didn't have to shell out 600-700 million to win the division.

Should we have spent money on pitching? Absolutely, there's no debating that now.

I would have shelled out that money to get us closer to the chip though. If our goal was the division, I agree with you---no need to pay too much. But the Astros are monsters, and we're going to be seeing them for a long time. I also seriously wonder if we'd pay for Gerrit Cole this offseason.

There was no amount of moves that we could've made in one off-season alone to be better than the Astros.

Trade deadline teams were asking for Gleyber as a starting piece for mid-level pitchers.

We're right there with the Astros despite all the injuries. That's the scary part for them.

[Rich Rane]

The point is, we didn't have to shell out 600-700 million to win the division.

Should we have spent money on pitching? Absolutely, there's no debating that now.

Thinking a bit ahead, do you want Gerrit Cole on this team? What are the odds Hal opens up his wallet for him? Keep in mind, this guy just struck out 300 in under 200 innings this season. I have near zero confidence that Gerrit Cole is a Yankee next season. DJ and Urshela thankfully having great seasons while Harper and Machado did not doesn't mean Hal isn't cheap.

[GEOLINK]

The point is, we didn't have to shell out 600-700 million to win the division.

Should we have spent money on pitching? Absolutely, there's no debating that now.

Thinking a bit ahead, do you want Gerrit Cole on this team? What are the odds Hal opens up his wallet for him? Keep in mind, this guy just struck out 300 in under 200 innings this season. I have near zero confidence that Gerrit Cole is a Yankee next season. DJ and Urshela thankfully having great seasons while Harper and Machado did not doesn't mean Hal isn't cheap.

I thought about them keeping the payroll flexible for when it's time to pay Gleyber, Judge, Gary.

Red Sox will have to give up either Mookie or their praying JD opts out in the winter just so they can shed salary.

On Gerrit, he'll become a Yankee if he wants to be a Yankee. I'm sure the offer will be competitive and similar to other team's offers, as we all know the money isn't the problem, it comes down to how many years.

[Rich Rane]

The point is, we didn't have to shell out 600-700 million to win the division.

Should we have spent money on pitching? Absolutely, there's no debating that now.

Thinking a bit ahead, do you want Gerrit Cole on this team? What are the odds Hal opens up his wallet for him? Keep in mind, this guy just struck out 300 in under 200 innings this season. I have near zero confidence that Gerrit Cole is a Yankee next season. DJ and Urshela thankfully having great seasons while Harper and Machado did not doesn't mean Hal isn't cheap.

I thought about them keeping the payroll flexible for when it's time to pay Gleyber, Judge, Gary.

Red Sox will have to give up either Mookie or their praying JD opts out in the winter just so they can shed salary.

On Gerrit, he'll become a Yankee if he wants to be a Yankee. I'm sure the offer will be competitive and similar to other team's offers, as we all know the money isn't the problem, it comes down to how many years.

Yankees will be first time luxury tax offenders this offseason. Some of those contracts will be offset by CC's retirement and finishing A-Rod and Ellsbury's dead money (Ellsbury is essentially dead money, I highly doubt he comes back next year before he could finally be bought out). Judge and Sanchez have arbitration until 2022, Torres until 2023, something Cashman can use as a bargaining chip in negotiations for their next contracts (as in buying their arbitration years out than having to go through it, which more often than not favors the team).

As for Cole, I simply don't see it. DJ and Urshela will probably be Hal's most looked at examples of buying for cheaper than splurging. If he gets a better offer, I think he'll chase the money, especially if he gets his ring this season.

[xNewYorkMadex]

German is a damn idiot

[Papi_swav]

So where all the Yankees are too cheap haters at now.

Oh Hal is still cheap. I'm willing to bet no one in the front office expected DJ or Urshela's seasons or the production from the guys on the bench. And this team still faces a tough series with the Astros should they meet.

I bet Cashman did. He's a genius.

[Rich Rane]

So where all the Yankees are too cheap haters at now.

Oh Hal is still cheap. I'm willing to bet no one in the front office expected DJ or Urshela's seasons or the production from the guys on the bench. And this team still faces a tough series with the Astros should they meet.

I bet Cashman did. He's a genius.

I'm a Cashman fan, but he's not a superhuman clairvoyant. He like every GM has made mistakes during his LONG tenure with the Yankees. Off the top of my head, Kei Igawa comes to my head. And Pavano. And utilizing Joba and Hughes and when and when not to trade them.

[GEOLINK]

Oh Hal is still cheap. I'm willing to bet no one in the front office expected DJ or Urshela's seasons or the production from the guys on the bench. And this team still faces a tough series with the Astros should they meet.

I bet Cashman did. He's a genius.

I'm a Cashman fan, but he's not a superhuman clairvoyant. He like every GM has made mistakes during his LONG tenure with the Yankees. Off the top of my head, Kei Igawa comes to my head. And Pavano. And utilizing Joba and Hughes and when and when not to trade them.

He's great at finding underutilized bats.

Pitching, not so much.

[Rich Rane]

He's great at finding underutilized bats.

Not always. Shane Robinson. And that short Ike Davis experiment. And Stephen Drew. And Todd Frazier's playoffs.

[GEOLINK]

He's great at finding underutilized bats.

Not always. Shane Robinson. And that short Ike Davis experiment. And Stephen Drew. And Todd Frazier's playoffs.

No one is always great.

[Butch718]

I'm giving Cashman pass on Pavano. The majority of fans wanted him that year too. He was coming off a career year, did well in the playoffs, and was still relatively young.

We were all high on Joba and Hughes at the time. I didn't want to trade both(which was what Toronto was asking for) for Roy Halladay. In hindsight, we should have knowing how those two turned out.

I'm more critical of the signings that the majority of fans new were going to be complete failures. Jarett Wright, Ellsbury, Igawa, etc

[Papi_swav]

I bet Cashman did. He's a genius.

I'm a Cashman fan, but he's not a superhuman clairvoyant. He like every GM has made mistakes during his LONG tenure with the Yankees. Off the top of my head, Kei Igawa comes to my head. And Pavano. And utilizing Joba and Hughes and when and when not to trade them.

He's great at finding underutilized bats.

Pitching, not so much.

I mean you can't totally put the blame all on Cashman for the pitching, he gets good guys but they come here and fluke. Sonny Gray is a perfect example, he bombed here but he's pitching like an ace in Cincinnati . For some reason pitchers bomb here in YS. I don't know if it's the ballpark, division, fans, media , pressure , whatever it is Cash has done a decent job in that department. I mean he's done great with the bullpen, starters just get scared straight in NY. We just can't seem to ever find a true number 1 starter Ace which we've had very few of these past decades.

[blue and orange]

Take Paxton out keep our starters under 100 pitches until the playoffs.

[GEOLINK]

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Paxton for Sheffield trade not looking too bad now.

[F N 11]

We in good hands with Tanaka, Maple, and Sevy.