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[Fat Kat]

What’s the big swing with Dennis either up or down? He’s a good speedy guard who can fit a role, not a superstar and not a bum.

I prefer to see Frank develop, but a guy like Dennis can be useful, he’s just not awesome (like most all of us humans).

Frank will NEVER get an opportunity in NY. I want to see him develop as well but it's time for people to come to terms with the inevitable.

Do you think the bright lights of the city keep him from shooting the ball effectively?

[iLLmatic860]

What’s the big swing with Dennis either up or down? He’s a good speedy guard who can fit a role, not a superstar and not a bum.

I prefer to see Frank develop, but a guy like Dennis can be useful, he’s just not awesome (like most all of us humans).

Frank will NEVER get an opportunity in NY. I want to see him develop as well but it's time for people to come to terms with the inevitable.

Why wont he get an opportunity?

[drekwins]

What’s the big swing with Dennis either up or down? He’s a good speedy guard who can fit a role, not a superstar and not a bum.

I prefer to see Frank develop, but a guy like Dennis can be useful, he’s just not awesome (like most all of us humans).

Frank will NEVER get an opportunity in NY. I want to see him develop as well but it's time for people to come to terms with the inevitable.

Why wont he get an opportunity?

The better question is, what has this regime done to make you think that they value Frank and his potential? Once again, I personally really like Frank. However, there have not been any positive signs since Fiz took over as head coach. Not one.

[Zenzibar]

Frank will NEVER get an opportunity in NY. I want to see him develop as well but it's time for people to come to terms with the inevitable.

Why wont he get an opportunity?

The better question is, what has this regime done to make you think that they value Frank and his potential?

That they didn't trade him last year when they could've.

[drekwins]

Why wont he get an opportunity?

The better question is, what has this regime done to make you think that they value Frank and his potential?

That they didn't trade him last year when they could've.

Could they have? Are you absolutely certain? Reports indicated that they were being offered just slightly more than nothing.

[iLLmatic860]

Frank will NEVER get an opportunity in NY. I want to see him develop as well but it's time for people to come to terms with the inevitable.

Why wont he get an opportunity?

The better question is, what has this regime done to make you think that they value Frank and his potential?

Frank was injured a good chunk of last season so its still tbd

[Zenzibar]

all fiz does is give you unrealistic fluff. if he felt the need to be realistic, that's telling in and of itself.

Apparently 'unrealistic fluff' isn't all he does because here's an example to disprove that. So being straight about the fact that sometimes shooters have bad games or stretches is telling what? Honest? Yea, we can't have that.

Fizdale: 'Dennis is no Mudiay who can carry an offense but Junior can play 15 solid minutes.'

Let the Negativity begin!

Bro, what he's saying is that Frank is starting and DSJ is backing him up, that's all.

[melo4three]

What’s the big swing with Dennis either up or down? He’s a good speedy guard who can fit a role, not a superstar and not a bum.

I prefer to see Frank develop, but a guy like Dennis can be useful, he’s just not awesome (like most all of us humans).

Frank will NEVER get an opportunity in NY. I want to see him develop as well but it's time for people to come to terms with the inevitable.

Why wont he get an opportunity?

Someone else would have to fail or get injured for him to get minutes.

[Zenzibar]

The better question is, what has this regime done to make you think that they value Frank and his potential?

That they didn't trade him last year when they could've.

Could they have? Are you absolutely certain? Reports indicated that they were being offered just slightly more than nothing.

haha, don't believe everything you read. Like they were rebuffed by the Pelicans, when they didn't even make an offer for Davis.

[drekwins]

Why wont he get an opportunity?

The better question is, what has this regime done to make you think that they value Frank and his potential?

Frank was injured a good chunk of last season so its still tbd

Bro... are you forgetting that Fiz considered him a PF more than a PG? There was a lot that transpired before his injuries... and after.

[iLLmatic860]

The better question is, what has this regime done to make you think that they value Frank and his potential?

Frank was injured a good chunk of last season so its still tbd

Bro... are you forgetting that Fiz considered him a PF more than a PG? There was a lot that transpired before his injuries... and after.

He said it himself that he was experimenting lol. Im pretty sure we have enough front court depth now for Fiz not to do that.

I wouldnt mind Frank at the 2 or 3 tho.

[robillionaire]

What’s the big swing with Dennis either up or down? He’s a good speedy guard who can fit a role, not a superstar and not a bum.

I prefer to see Frank develop, but a guy like Dennis can be useful, he’s just not awesome (like most all of us humans).

Frank will NEVER get an opportunity in NY. I want to see him develop as well but it's time for people to come to terms with the inevitable.

Why wont he get an opportunity?

1. The front office doesn't have his back because Phil drafted him
2. Fizdale doesn't seem to like him and would rather play bums like Mudiay and Burke
3. Even the previous coach wouldn't develop him because of Burke and Jarrett Jack
4. We traded KP to get DSJ. Payton is a Perry player. They have support. Frank doesn't

he's just got too much working against him

[TheGreenArrow]

Frank/payton
Rj/trier
Morris/knox
Randle/morris(split time at 3&backup4)
Mitch/portis

Dsjr should be out of the rotation with his jumper looking that horrendous.

[Fat Kat]

Frank will NEVER get an opportunity in NY. I want to see him develop as well but it's time for people to come to terms with the inevitable.

Why wont he get an opportunity?

1. The front office doesn't have his back because Phil drafted him
2. Fizdale doesn't seem to like him and would rather play bums like Mudiay and Burke
3. Even the previous coach wouldn't develop him because of Burke and Jarrett Jack
4. We traded KP to get DSJ. Payton is a Perry player. They have support. Frank doesn't

he's just got too much working against him

5. He’s been the worst offensive player in the league since he’s arrived.

[drekwins]

Frank was injured a good chunk of last season so its still tbd

Bro... are you forgetting that Fiz considered him a PF more than a PG? There was a lot that transpired before his injuries... and after.

He said it himself that he was experimenting lol. Im pretty sure we have enough front court depth now for Fiz not to do that.

I wouldnt mind Frank at the 2 or 3 tho.

You don't experiement with some busch league ish like that if you believe in the guy. You don't experiment with Wade at PF, Duncan at PG, Kobe at C, etc. You let the rest of the team fall around wherever that guys natural position is. Looking at last years roster, it was terrible. If Ntilikina was not played at the PG position then, he never will be.

[drekwins]

Why wont he get an opportunity?

1. The front office doesn't have his back because Phil drafted him
2. Fizdale doesn't seem to like him and would rather play bums like Mudiay and Burke
3. Even the previous coach wouldn't develop him because of Burke and Jarrett Jack
4. We traded KP to get DSJ. Payton is a Perry player. They have support. Frank doesn't

he's just got too much working against him

5. He’s been the worst offensive player in the league since he’s arrived.

6. The team is non-committal about picking up his option. Never a good sign.

[HEZI]

Bro... are you forgetting that Fiz considered him a PF more than a PG? There was a lot that transpired before his injuries... and after.

He said it himself that he was experimenting lol. Im pretty sure we have enough front court depth now for Fiz not to do that.

I wouldnt mind Frank at the 2 or 3 tho.

You don't experiement with some busch league ish like that if you believe in the guy. You don't experiment with Wade at PF, Duncan at PG, Kobe at C, etc. You let the rest of the team fall around wherever that guys natural position is. Looking at last years roster, it was terrible. If Ntilikina was not played at the PG position then, he never will be.

One of these is not like the other

We've seen Frank at PG also and he didn't look good there either. I think there were a few factors that led to him being switched around

1. He never established a clear position for himself
2. Our depth last year sucked
3. We were tanking so we could afford to shuffle things around

[Zenzibar]

Read on Twitter

i don't know if that's exactly a ringing endorsement

Word.

But look at young Frank's jumper, pretty as fk.

Watch on YouTube

[HarthorneWingo]

What’s all this shyt about Fixdale tweaking the defense? FOH. He hasn’t had a full practice with all the new players and he already knows how it should be tweaked. Idiot!

If any defense was played at all, it would be a major tweak

He's the worst coach we've had in a while. Worse than Hornacek, worse than Fisher, worse than Woodson, clearly worse than D'Antoni, worse than Isiah, and worse than Larry Brown.

[HarthorneWingo]

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i don't know if that's exactly a ringing endorsement

Word.

But look at young Frank's jumper, pretty as fk.

Watch on YouTube

Frank has the cleanest shooting mechanics of the three PGs.