Preseason games discussion thread 2019

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How many times will the phrase "it's only preseason" be used in this thread on average?

Once every 10 pages or more
12
8%
Once every 8 pages
0
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Once every 6 pages
1
1%
Once every 4 pages
6
4%
Once every 3 pages
11
7%
Once every 2 pages
26
17%
Once every page
25
16%
Twice every page
24
16%
Thrice or more every page
48
31%
 
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Re: Preseason games discussion thread 2019 

Post#1321 » by TheNewEra » Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:57 am

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clyde21 wrote:
AKFO wrote:They gotta trade someone. Jackson, Hart, ETwaun; there's a market for all those guys.


trade Ingram...maybe for a RoCo hed be perfect on this team

Lol reading these comments I was beginning to think Ingram is the guy you look at trading. But they do need his height and length up front in theory


Naw is a bit shot happy so just sell him on being a sixth man. He’s not going to get the shots he wants playing with Ball, Jrue, Zion and playing alongside JJ and a bunch of floor spacers is perfect.
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Re: Preseason games discussion thread 2019 

Post#1322 » by TheNewEra » Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:00 am

With the Pelicans I’m more curious about Favors. I would assume he thought he would be able to showcase himself on this team but he’s not even a thought on the offense. To make matters worse because he’s not getting the ball in each game he looks disinterested on defense.

I would keep an eye on him asking for a trade. If this holds up he could be looking at a major drop in numbers on this team and it’s not like they don’t have other bigs.
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Re: Preseason games discussion thread 2019 

Post#1323 » by clyde21 » Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:02 am

TheNewEra wrote:
AKFO wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
trade Ingram...maybe for a RoCo hed be perfect on this team

Lol reading these comments I was beginning to think Ingram is the guy you look at trading. But they do need his height and length up front in theory


Naw is a bit shot happy so just sell him on being a sixth man. He’s not going to get the shots he wants playing with Ball, Jrue, Zion and playing alongside JJ and a bunch of floor spacers is perfect.


7-9 today, 4-5 from 3...he needs to be in there, he's already better than Lonzo and Ingram
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Re: Preseason games discussion thread 2019 

Post#1324 » by Duke4life831 » Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:02 am

I love me some zion hype as much the next guy. But ya it is only preseason. This goes for the guys that look really good and the ones struggling, it's only preseason.
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Re: Preseason games discussion thread 2019 

Post#1325 » by The Master » Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:07 am

TheNewEra wrote:With the Pelicans I’m more curious about Favors. I would assume he thought he would be able to showcase himself on this team but he’s not even a thought on the offense. To make matters worse because he’s not getting the ball in each game he looks disinterested on defense.

Naaah, I think it's more about preseason and giving young guys more time and space to develop, just look on JJs numbers, they'll both become much more important as regular season starts. I'd say Pelicans are a nice spot for Favors, Gentry's offenses are so friendly for ballhandlers and pnr finishers (Favors) while Redick will become much more important when spacing issues come out, and I think they will very soon, there's no natural spot up shooter in these primary lineups.
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Re: Preseason games discussion thread 2019 

Post#1326 » by TheNewEra » Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:11 am

clyde21 wrote:
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AKFO wrote:Lol reading these comments I was beginning to think Ingram is the guy you look at trading. But they do need his height and length up front in theory


Naw is a bit shot happy so just sell him on being a sixth man. He’s not going to get the shots he wants playing with Ball, Jrue, Zion and playing alongside JJ and a bunch of floor spacers is perfect.


7-9 today, 4-5 from 3...he needs to be in there, he's already better than Lonzo and Ingram


I believe in his talent and still feel Orlando should not of passed on him. Just don’t like the fit with the starters I prefer the experience of Lonzo and Jrue isn’t going anywhere. Playing any of them at SF just to do it is a unnecessary risk right now imo. Let him get 23 minutes and go crazy off the bench with the ball in his hands.
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Re: Preseason games discussion thread 2019 

Post#1327 » by TheNewEra » Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:12 am

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TheNewEra wrote:With the Pelicans I’m more curious about Favors. I would assume he thought he would be able to showcase himself on this team but he’s not even a thought on the offense. To make matters worse because he’s not getting the ball in each game he looks disinterested on defense.

Naaah, I think it's more about preseason and giving young guys more time and space to develop, just look on JJs numbers, they'll both become much more important as regular season starts. I'd say Pelicans are a nice spot for Favors, Gentry's offenses are so friendly for ballhandlers and pnr finishers (Favors) while Redick will become much more important when spacing issues come out, and I think they will very soon, there's no natural spot up shooter in these primary lineups.


Hope so because if he can turn up the intensity on the floor the overall defense should be better. Should be working with Zion to make him better on D
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Re: Preseason games discussion thread 2019 

Post#1328 » by The Master » Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:15 am

Duke4life831 wrote:I love me some zion hype as much the next guy. But ya it is only preseason. This goes for the guys that look really good and the ones struggling, it's only preseason.
Well, about Zion it's not even a case of an enthusiasm after preseason games, he hasn't showed anything people watching ZW on regular basis at Duke wouldn't have expected from him to do, it's more about how quickly some critics' prejudice is verified.

NAW is more it's only SL/preseason type of guy because he looks utterly freaking amazing every time he plays since he was drafted. If he plays the way he's played on bigger sample size, Pelicans have Thunder-esque upside with this core of guys and assets they have.
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Re: Preseason games discussion thread 2019 

Post#1329 » by KqWIN » Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:16 am

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TheNewEra wrote:With the Pelicans I’m more curious about Favors. I would assume he thought he would be able to showcase himself on this team but he’s not even a thought on the offense. To make matters worse because he’s not getting the ball in each game he looks disinterested on defense.

Naaah, I think it's more about preseason and giving young guys more time and space to develop, just look on JJs numbers, they'll both become much more important as regular season starts. I'd say Pelicans are a nice spot for Favors, Gentry's offenses are so friendly for ballhandlers and pnr finishers (Favors) while Redick will become much more important when spacing issues come out, and I think they will very soon, there's no natural spot up shooter in these primary lineups.


Hope so because if he can turn up the intensity on the floor the overall defense should be better. Should be working with Zion to make him better on D


Favors has had up and down motor in his career, but you could argue that his "low motor" moments are just times where he has been injured. When he's healthy and playing hard, as he did last year, he's one of the better C's in the league. He's on par with the Adams/Capela tier.

How does a rolling big fit with Zion and questionable shooting? We'll see...but a healthy Favs is a really good C.
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Re: Preseason games discussion thread 2019 

Post#1330 » by Buzzard » Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:29 am

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The Master wrote:Naaah, I think it's more about preseason and giving young guys more time and space to develop, just look on JJs numbers, they'll both become much more important as regular season starts. I'd say Pelicans are a nice spot for Favors, Gentry's offenses are so friendly for ballhandlers and pnr finishers (Favors) while Redick will become much more important when spacing issues come out, and I think they will very soon, there's no natural spot up shooter in these primary lineups.


Hope so because if he can turn up the intensity on the floor the overall defense should be better. Should be working with Zion to make him better on D


Favors has had up and down motor in his career, but you could argue that his "low motor" moments are just times where he has been injured. When he's healthy and playing hard, as he did last year, he's one of the better C's in the league. He's on par with the Adams/Capela tier.

How does a rolling big fit with Zion and questionable shooting? We'll see...but a healthy Favs is a really good C.

I am from Atl and Favors played at Ga Tech. I have wanted Favors in a Hawks uniform his whole career. I agree, if he is healthy he is a solid center for the Pelicans. I am biased but think he'd be a perfect plug and play center alongside John Collins and the rest of the Hawks.
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Re: Preseason games discussion thread 2019 

Post#1331 » by Catchall » Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:35 am

Zion is just a unique player. Defenders literally bounce off him, and he has different ways to finish at the rim. He knows how to use his wide body to get space, even against a much bigger defender, and he can find the angles to finish.
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Re: Preseason games discussion thread 2019 

Post#1332 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:35 am

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Re: Preseason games discussion thread 2019 

Post#1333 » by Catchall » Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:37 am

The Master wrote:
TheNewEra wrote:With the Pelicans I’m more curious about Favors. I would assume he thought he would be able to showcase himself on this team but he’s not even a thought on the offense. To make matters worse because he’s not getting the ball in each game he looks disinterested on defense.


Naaah, I think it's more about preseason and giving young guys more time and space to develop, just look on JJs numbers, they'll both become much more important as regular season starts. I'd say Pelicans are a nice spot for Favors, Gentry's offenses are so friendly for ballhandlers and pnr finishers (Favors) while Redick will become much more important when spacing issues come out, and I think they will very soon, there's no natural spot up shooter in these primary lineups.


That, and not wanting to grind the offense to a halt by challenging Gobert in the paint. But guys like Ingram and NAW could look to pass more than they did tonight. Favors is an elite pick-and-roll finisher, but it didn't look like NOLA ran it much.
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Re: Preseason games discussion thread 2019 

Post#1334 » by Catchall » Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:39 am

JJ Redick with zero points on 0-2 shooting in 17 minutes. Donovan Mitchell wanted to put clamps on him tonight.
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Re: Preseason games discussion thread 2019 

Post#1335 » by Smirk » Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:39 am

Favors has a nagging hamstring injury. They are limiting his minutes. Nothing to do with anything else.
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Re: Preseason games discussion thread 2019 

Post#1336 » by whatisacenter » Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:39 am

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Re: Preseason games discussion thread 2019 

Post#1337 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:41 am

AKFO wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:Don't know how the Pelicans are going to keep NAW coming off the bench. The guy knows how to play the game.

They gotta trade someone. Jackson, Hart, ETwaun; there's a market for all those guys.


Or they could just bring them off the bench. NAW is a beast. I like what I've seen from Taurean Prince but damn the Nets drafted him and traded him :lol: ouch
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Re: Preseason games discussion thread 2019 

Post#1338 » by Duke4life831 » Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:42 am

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Duke4life831 wrote:I love me some zion hype as much the next guy. But ya it is only preseason. This goes for the guys that look really good and the ones struggling, it's only preseason.
Well, about Zion it's not even a case of an enthusiasm after preseason games, he hasn't showed anything people watching ZW on regular basis at Duke wouldn't have expected from him to do, it's more about how quickly some critics' prejudice is verified.

NAW is more it's only SL/preseason type of guy because he looks utterly freaking amazing every time he plays since he was drafted. If he plays the way he's played on bigger sample size, Pelicans have Thunder-esque upside with this core of guys and assets they have.


Even with Zion, its still just preseason. Jimmer Fredette as a rookie came in and was the leading scorer for rookies his preseason, he shot 55% from the floor and 67% from 3. Im sure if we go back, there were plenty of posts saying something along the lines of, "of course he wont shoot 67% from 3, but this just shows he can get his shot off with no problem against NBA players, the dude is going to be a legit threat in this league."

I remember watching Bradley Beal as a rookie in preseason and he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with his shot. I remember the Josh Jackson > Tatum talk as well because it looked like Jackson could actually shoot and people thought Tatum couldn't shoot a NBA 3.

Now do I think Zion's game is going to translate? Ya, Ive been saying that on this board since December in 2016. Just saying we still have to remember it is still just preseason. The vets turn it up another notch once the season starts and the biggest thing, coaches start scouting and game planning.
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Re: Preseason games discussion thread 2019 

Post#1339 » by KqWIN » Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:44 am

Catchall wrote:JJ Redick with zero points on 0-2 shooting in 17 minutes. Donovan Mitchell wanted to put clamps on him tonight.


Not sure they even matched up once.
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Re: Preseason games discussion thread 2019 

Post#1340 » by MemphisX » Sat Oct 12, 2019 4:02 am

TheNewEra wrote:With the Pelicans I’m more curious about Favors. I would assume he thought he would be able to showcase himself on this team but he’s not even a thought on the offense. To make matters worse because he’s not getting the ball in each game he looks disinterested on defense.

I would keep an eye on him asking for a trade. If this holds up he could be looking at a major drop in numbers on this team and it’s not like they don’t have other bigs.


Favors will make money showing he can be an elite defender at the 5. He will get paid.
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